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Here's Why Heads Will Probably Roll Over Obama Wiretapping Trump

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posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

So now the judge did something illegal?

In any case, in this day and age of Big Brother, I doubt any kind of spying on anyone is illegal. Thanks Bush. Thanks Obama.




posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

The wiretapping would have been done by the NSA. It is what they do.

The NSA's infrastructure is estimated to have a budget of $52.6 billion dollars.

The NSA's activities are unconstitutional and have clearly exceeded what is legal, as shown by Snowden's revelations.

The money put into the NSA will not ever be cycled back into the economy in any significant way. In short, they have a really poor return on investment in any financial scenario.

The NSA is one of the reasons America is not great. All that capital being siphoned away from the economy. Money that could be used for country and wealth building investment.

So Trump should redirect funding away from the NSA, instead allocating the funding towards projects that promise a stronger return.

Similar choices should be made for other governmental spend, if Trump actually has the will to make America great again.

edit on 5/3/2017 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)


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posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

You keep repeating yourself in just about every thread, can you please try to use a tiny bit of intelligence in your posts?



Says the guy who post hitler memes lol, so did you get your dylan roof signed poster yet.

Oh but dont worry trump loves you, he told me.

Troll harder kid, my 10 year old hits harder.


Nothing personal but I agree with thesaneone about your posts. Apparently you are able to access the MSM on your mom's basement computer and you believe every word as gospel. If I told you that the EU was in melt down and that Trump is waging a war against the deep state to save America you would probably default to the MSM fairy tale...it's more "real."


You got triggered 2 lol, poor thing.


To the moderators, I realize that this is the Mud Pit and has fewer T&C constraints.....however, political trolling and baiting seem to cross a line somehow...can I assume that since this is the Mud Pit any member with a computer and a half articulated though can name call and behave like a bomb throwing moron?



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: neo96

So its BS that a judge grants permission for wiretapping?

Mmmmmmmmmmk!



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute
a reply to: Dfairlite

I happen to agree with your OP and will be watching any proceeding that result from these allegations very closely, I am growing tired of Democrat obstructionism. If the Trump administration proves that the Obama administration colluded with deep state actors to delegitimize his Presidency it would be unprecedented...and probably unreported in the MSM.


I agree.
This is another manipulation of the obamanists that is no different than Nixon's Watergate. Just because they found a sympathetic anti-wall socialist judge to sign the warrant, doesn't mean there was corrupt collusion to commit a conspiratorial felony.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: Swills

Wouldn't be the first time.

The most famous examples are judicial hacktavists that seem to think they have more power than a sitting us president citing the LAW.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

You keep repeating yourself in just about every thread, can you please try to use a tiny bit of intelligence in your posts?





Says the guy who post hitler memes lol, so did you get your dylan roof signed poster yet.

Oh but dont worry trump loves you, he told me.

Troll harder kid, my 10 year old hits harder.


Nothing personal but I agree with thesaneone about your posts. Apparently you are able to access the MSM on your mom's basement computer and you believe every word as gospel. If I told you that the EU was in melt down and that Trump is waging a war against the deep state to save America you would probably default to the MSM fairy tale...it's more "real."


You got triggered 2 lol, poor thing.


To the moderators, I realize that this is the Mud Pit and has fewer T&C constraints.....however, political trolling and baiting seem to cross a line somehow...can I assume that since this is the Mud Pit any member with a computer and a half articulated though can name call and behave like a bomb throwing moron?


Dont be so soft man, grow some tougher skin, the world is a big scary place. You cry that i troll then try to insult me lol, your a true trump fan, no substance, just full of fake outrage.

I didint even need to call you a piece of # and your all triggered.

Have a nice day

edit on 5-3-2017 by dukeofjive696969 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: rickymouse

So now the judge did something illegal?

In any case, in this day and age of Big Brother, I doubt any kind of spying on anyone is illegal. Thanks Bush. Thanks Obama.


THe NSA was established in 1952 under President Truman. Truman also established the CIA in 1947.

I don't think you can just blame Obama & Bush, the rot began earlier.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

You keep repeating yourself in just about every thread, can you please try to use a tiny bit of intelligence in your posts?



I remember most Canadians as good decent people....you must be originally from Quebec?



Says the guy who post hitler memes lol, so did you get your dylan roof signed poster yet.

Oh but dont worry trump loves you, he told me.

Troll harder kid, my 10 year old hits harder.


Nothing personal but I agree with thesaneone about your posts. Apparently you are able to access the MSM on your mom's basement computer and you believe every word as gospel. If I told you that the EU was in melt down and that Trump is waging a war against the deep state to save America you would probably default to the MSM fairy tale...it's more "real."


You got triggered 2 lol, poor thing.


To the moderators, I realize that this is the Mud Pit and has fewer T&C constraints.....however, political trolling and baiting seem to cross a line somehow...can I assume that since this is the Mud Pit any member with a computer and a half articulated though can name call and behave like a bomb throwing moron?


Dont be so soft man, grow some toughers skin, the world is a big scary place. You cry that i troll then try to insult me lol, your a true trump fan, no substance, just full of fake outrage.

I didint even need to call you a piece of # and your all triggered.

Have a nice day



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut


The wiretapping would have been done by the NSA. It is what they do.


That's what I would have thought too, and I'm sure that the NSA was, in fact, doing their job! But, the request for the FISA warrant came from the FBI in respect to the Trump/Russian Alfa Bank server communications, and I doubt that phones were tapped at all from that warrant. But, one would have to see the warrant to know for sure!

I'm reminded of the warning given to Trump from Chuck Schumer! "Don't attack the Intel Community! They have 6 ways from Sunday to get you!" (Or something like that)




posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:02 PM
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Only one person has said the first FISA 'appeared' to have Trumps name on it. That's vague in legal terms as it does not mean the subject matter relates to Trump himself. The second FISA is said to be a rewording of the first, again that does not mean Trumps name was or wasn't on it or that he was the subject matter. What was on the request is a server in the Trump building. If a wiretap was included it could be intended for someone else who was already being investigated for over a year by the FBI for foreign and business reasons, and who was part of the Trump team, and for all we know may still be under investigation...and who lived in the Trump building. The FBI has kept quiet about that.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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George Webbs latest that is focusing in on the subject



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Hillary is still not in jail and you guys want us to believe that obama is going to jail, durp durp durp, whats in the water over there.

So no fema camps

No guns taken away

No sharia law in murika

No emperor obama for life

No war on xmas

No white men holocaust

Yea we believe you guys this time.


Of course he wont go to jail, IF something illegal was done some underling will get thrown under the bus...

Neither party is going to seriously try to send a president to jail, bad precedent for the folks wanting power.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

You keep repeating yourself in just about every thread, can you please try to use a tiny bit of intelligence in your posts?



Says the guy who post hitler memes lol, so did you get your dylan roof signed poster yet.

Oh but dont worry trump loves you, he told me.

Troll harder kid, my 10 year old hits harder.


Nothing personal but I agree with thesaneone about your posts. Apparently you are able to access the MSM on your mom's basement computer and you believe every word as gospel. If I told you that the EU was in melt down and that Trump is waging a war against the deep state to save America you would probably default to the MSM fairy tale...it's more "real."


These two posts are exactly why I can't stand both you R's and D's.

This is the typical post on ATS of late. Partisan drivel and enormous over-generalizations.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: rickymouse

So now the judge did something illegal?

In any case, in this day and age of Big Brother, I doubt any kind of spying on anyone is illegal. Thanks Bush. Thanks Obama.


It technically would not be illegal. Unethical behavior can be used to force a judge to resign.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Hillary is still not in jail and you guys want us to believe that obama is going to jail, durp durp durp, whats in the water over there.

So no fema camps

No guns taken away

No sharia law in murika

No emperor obama for life

No war on xmas

No white men holocaust

Yea we believe you guys this time.


Of course he wont go to jail, IF something illegal was done some underling will get thrown under the bus...

Neither party is going to seriously try to send a president to jail, bad precedent for the folks wanting power.


I agree with you good sir, people in power never really do jail time.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: syrinx high priest

How exactly are the Russians the "bad guys?"

Now one ever seems to be able to give me a good answer on that one



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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I still havnt seen Trump do what Obama did on the mic slip up in Russia. Can you even begin to imagine how that would be presented by the liberal with violence left.
Or how about if he got fown on his knees and bowed before the Saudi king and kiss his hands, like Obama did?
Or how about wire tapping obamas residence for the next 8 years, because Obama is a known enemy of America, and all non muslims throughout the world.

Put Obama on notice. Tap him, and when you find evidence, send a drone to mop up the real mess



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
I still havnt seen Trump do what Obama did on the mic slip up in Russia. Can you even begin to imagine how that would be presented by the liberal with violence left.
Or how about if he got fown on his knees and bowed before the Saudi king and kiss his hands, like Obama did?
Or how about wire tapping obamas residence for the next 8 years, because Obama is a known enemy of America, and all non muslims throughout the world.

Put Obama on notice. Tap him, and when you find evidence, send a drone to mop up the real mess


Oh oh just like bush bowing to the king of saudi arabia, keep it on the down low do, it wont fit your agenda.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Dfairlite

Or perhaps Heads will roll in the current Whitehouse. Seems this accusation is a distraction from the Russia investigation.

It is deflection. Slight of hand. Media Misdirection.

It just means that they are getting awfully close to figuring out Trump's culpability and he's freaking out about it.

Or perhaps not.

I choose "perhaps not" dear one. It would be suicide if Prez Trump was guilty of Russian collusion. I say he's showing no fear because he knows he's innocent.

Even the evil Clapper had this to say amidst the current issue about FISA:



James Clapper, who was director of national intelligence last year, told NBC's Meet The Press that to his knowledge there was no FISA court order regarding Trump Tower.

Clapper also said he saw no evidence of "collusion" between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election.


USATODAY

Interesting to note two things there. First, that Clapper seems to be distancing himself as it's pretty apparent the FISA's exist and, secondly, when we look past the MSM spin we see over and over that no evidence of collusion was found.

I expect much backbiting to ensue as everyone goes into CYA mode. And Weiner & Huma are still floating around out there somewhere...







 
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