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I'm just curious. Why would you want to see Trump's income tax returns?

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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

Whatever you say, Brit. You TOTALLY got your finger on the pulse of American politics.


Yes I do...and your ideology is losing. The country will change around you and you will be in a corner somewhere crying about tax returns.

There is no such thing as "my ideology is losing". Politics works in cycles. All it takes is people getting fed up with the right for things to swing back to the left, and the way Trump is acting it won't even take four years for it to occur. I'd point out the Town Halls that Republican Congressmen are fleeing (much in the same way that Democratic Congressmen fled Town Halls in 2008 and 2009), but you'll probably just tell me they are Soros paid protesters. A ready made excuse to deflect from acknowledging that Trump's support isn't built on as sturdy a foundation as you want to believe.


The right? What is happening is not about left or right. The right wing nuts are just as bad as the left wing nuts.
I can tell that you STILL don't understand why Trump won.
edit on 6/3/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

Whatever you say, Brit. You TOTALLY got your finger on the pulse of American politics.


Yes I do...and your ideology is losing. The country will change around you and you will be in a corner somewhere crying about tax returns.

There is no such thing as "my ideology is losing". Politics works in cycles. All it takes is people getting fed up with the right for things to swing back to the left, and the way Trump is acting it won't even take four years for it to occur. I'd point out the Town Halls that Republican Congressmen are fleeing (much in the same way that Democratic Congressmen fled Town Halls in 2008 and 2009), but you'll probably just tell me they are Soros paid protesters. A ready made excuse to deflect from acknowledging that Trump's support isn't built on as sturdy a foundation as you want to believe.


The right? What is happening is not about left or right. The right wing nuts are just as bad as the left wing nuts.
I can tell that you STILL don't understand why Trump won.

Ah yes this supposed argument that there is no such thing between the right/left divide. Fun fact: Trump represents the right, even if his supporters want to pretend they are moderates.
edit on 6-3-2017 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Trump is considered centrist or big tent. He is socialist by nature added with a flavour of nationalism.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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originally posted by: Berns23
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Trump is considered centrist or big tent. He is socialist by nature added with a flavour of nationalism.

Considered by who? Sure he may have been a Democrat in the past and even held Socialist beliefs, but his political positions today are ALL right wing. Only a fool who doesn't understand politics would call him a centrist. Political opinions evolve. Just because you held a political opinion in the past doesn't mean you are defined by it today. Trump has done everything to paint himself as a conservative, so that is the politics he aligns with currently. There is no arguing around that.

If you want to paint him as a centrist then point out a centrist or liberal policy that he is currently pushing (and not just paid lip service to at some point in the past). Also, moderates are few and far between these days because politics are so polarized.
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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

Whatever you say, Brit. You TOTALLY got your finger on the pulse of American politics.


Yes I do...and your ideology is losing. The country will change around you and you will be in a corner somewhere crying about tax returns.

There is no such thing as "my ideology is losing". Politics works in cycles. All it takes is people getting fed up with the right for things to swing back to the left, and the way Trump is acting it won't even take four years for it to occur. I'd point out the Town Halls that Republican Congressmen are fleeing (much in the same way that Democratic Congressmen fled Town Halls in 2008 and 2009), but you'll probably just tell me they are Soros paid protesters. A ready made excuse to deflect from acknowledging that Trump's support isn't built on as sturdy a foundation as you want to believe.


The right? What is happening is not about left or right. The right wing nuts are just as bad as the left wing nuts.
I can tell that you STILL don't understand why Trump won.

Ah yes this supposed argument that there is no such thing between the right/left divide. Fun fact: Trump represents the right, even if his supporters want to pretend they are moderates.


You are just displaying a lack of knowledge.,, but keep it up, the less you understand the better.
edit on 6/3/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

LGBTQ protection for instance. The guy's 70. Up until the 1970s there was no such thing as LGBTQ protection.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

Whatever you say, Brit. You TOTALLY got your finger on the pulse of American politics.


Yes I do...and your ideology is losing. The country will change around you and you will be in a corner somewhere crying about tax returns.

There is no such thing as "my ideology is losing". Politics works in cycles. All it takes is people getting fed up with the right for things to swing back to the left, and the way Trump is acting it won't even take four years for it to occur. I'd point out the Town Halls that Republican Congressmen are fleeing (much in the same way that Democratic Congressmen fled Town Halls in 2008 and 2009), but you'll probably just tell me they are Soros paid protesters. A ready made excuse to deflect from acknowledging that Trump's support isn't built on as sturdy a foundation as you want to believe.


The right? What is happening is not about left or right. The right wing nuts are just as bad as the left wing nuts.
I can tell that you STILL don't understand why Trump won.

Ah yes this supposed argument that there is no such thing between the right/left divide. Fun fact: Trump represents the right, even if his supporters want to pretend they are moderates.


You are just displaying a lack of knowledge.,, but keep it up, the less you understand the better.

Ok. Then point out a centrist or liberal policy that Trump supports or is pushing. I'm all ears. Go ahead and educate me.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: Berns23
a reply to: Krazysh0t

LGBTQ protection for instance. The guy's 70. Up until the 1970s there was no such thing as LGBTQ protection.

Huh?
Trump administration rolls back protections for transgender students



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

Whatever you say, Brit. You TOTALLY got your finger on the pulse of American politics.


Yes I do...and your ideology is losing. The country will change around you and you will be in a corner somewhere crying about tax returns.

There is no such thing as "my ideology is losing". Politics works in cycles. All it takes is people getting fed up with the right for things to swing back to the left, and the way Trump is acting it won't even take four years for it to occur. I'd point out the Town Halls that Republican Congressmen are fleeing (much in the same way that Democratic Congressmen fled Town Halls in 2008 and 2009), but you'll probably just tell me they are Soros paid protesters. A ready made excuse to deflect from acknowledging that Trump's support isn't built on as sturdy a foundation as you want to believe.


The right? What is happening is not about left or right. The right wing nuts are just as bad as the left wing nuts.
I can tell that you STILL don't understand why Trump won.

Ah yes this supposed argument that there is no such thing between the right/left divide. Fun fact: Trump represents the right, even if his supporters want to pretend they are moderates.


You are just displaying a lack of knowledge.,, but keep it up, the less you understand the better.

Ok. Then point out a centrist or liberal policy that Trump supports or is pushing. I'm all ears. Go ahead and educate me.


Hiking up more tax-payers monies for the offensive budget and the military-industrial complex?




posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: UKTruth

All I'm saying is that if there is nothing to see then he shouldn't be so concerned with releasing them. The Russian thing is a developing story and while these tax returns may not violate the emoluments clause, it could show potential sources of conflict for when he became President. These questions need to be answered, and if there is nothing there, then he should have no problem releasing them.


If the White House released copies of Trump's tax returns and there was nothing amiss in them, nothing to criticize, and nothing to explain why he's dragged his feet on releasing them...would you be satisfied with that?

Yes. I can't argue with the hard evidence.


Hard evidence would come from Trump authorizing the IRS to disclose his tax returns. I'm surprised you would trust pristine tax returns that can't be authenticated after he's dragged his feet on this for so long.

You're far less cynical than I am.

He doesn't have to authorize the IRS to release his tax returns. Who told you that? He can just release them whenever he wants. Plus I'm sure that once the tax returns are released, every tax attorney in the nation will be coming through them to make sure they are legit.


That's not what I said. I said hard evidence would come from the IRS, not Trump.

Trump could dream up any favorable tax returns with the help of a good accountant/tax attorney and release them. You called that "hard evidence."

ETA: BTW, even if tax attorneys reviewed them and found them to be completely suspect...it wouldn't change the fact that the public would just have to accept them as authentic.

That sounds like a bridge we should be crossing when we actually get to it; not an excuse to accept Trump not releasing his returns now.



On the other hand, those speaking from experience know that waiting to cross that bridge is a bridge to nowhere. There are no checks and balances with regard to suspicious personal records released by presidents and POTUS candidates.





edit on 6-3-2017 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

That has to do with Trump's promise of small federal government and delegating powers back to the states.

kids.laws.com...
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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Clearly, there is something he'd rather not share. With an ego like that, he'd be tweeting his tax returns if there were no potential conflicts of interest. I mean, he tweets everything else, right?



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: 0zzymand0s

AFAIK, he hasn't twitted out his long form birth certificate. So no, your premise that he tweets out everything is false.



posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 07:22 AM
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a reply to: seagull

That's true. Like David Sampson -- friend of New Jersey Governor and former Port Authority Chief -- he operates on the theory that legal loopholes trump moral lapses.

That alignment is called "Lawful Neutral" and doesn't fly at all where Neutral Good comes from.

I'm just saying.



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