Trump, Flynn, Sessions and Page condemn cia / nsa "photoshopped" evidence

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When the Russia hack comes in The Courts, and TRUMP Team people that had ties with Russia are suspects, maybe even TRUMP himself, they should call on the fact that all digital evidence can easily be "photoshopped" by lack of a better word.

There is much at stake (a presidency) so its imaginable that opponents of TRUMP have the money, tech, skills, people and time to make fake digital evidence.

The problem is not the Russia hack but the Intelligence Community #bigbrotheriswatchingyou ("Capo-di-tuti-Capi) is getting too power full, forming a secret society in the secret Intelligence Community society, a secret mafia in side the pan global conglomerate of secret services.




"the beast from the sea" the 7 heads are the 7 richest families, the 7 crowns are the 7 godfathers of those 7 families, the 10 horns are the worldwide 10 biggest secret services that form a pan global "conglomerate". Its one of the secret mafias inside the Intelligence Community.

a reply to: galien8

Cant tell you how much I'm enjoying the fact that Trump is a victim of the same Surveillance State that he actually wants to INCREASE.

Didnt he say that Snowden is a traitor subject to the death penalty?

Can someone Tell Trump that if it werent for Snowden, we wouldnt know that our public servants are spying on us.

a reply to: gladtobehere

Oh come on now. He would only call that position the product of fake news if you told him that.

Its a damned shame, but that is the hole he has dug for himself.

originally posted by: gladtobehere
Can someone Tell Trump that if it werent for Snowden, we wouldnt know that our public servants are spying on us.

Your public servants have been spying on you since before Snowden was born. We've know all about it since before he was born, too.

Snowden ran to China. Then he ran to Russia.

Good lord, Kislyak was at the convention.. is there something wrong with talking to the Russian Ambassador?
This story is irrelevant. The only strands of anything that the Dems have is that Sessions met with Kislyak privately (well with 3 other people), but they are going to need to prove he talked about the campaign.

When the Russia hack comes in The Courts

Don't count on it.

Because that would mean they'd have to provide PROOF.

Trump critics would lose. That's why they throw everything they can in the kangaroo courts of public opinion.

Where mere accusations are good enough to convict people.

originally posted by: UKTruth
Good lord, Kislyak was at the convention.. is there something wrong with talking to the Russian Ambassador?
This story is irrelevant. The only strands of anything that the Dems have is that Sessions met with Kislyak privately (well with 3 other people), but they are going to need to prove he talked about the campaign.

LOL, he was at the convention, a campaign event! Of course the election came up! It was an "election event"!

The question is, why was the Russian Ambassador at the convention. What was his interest/stake in Trump's campaign? Isn't it interesting that, at Trump's insistence, the Republican Platform changed and they rewrote their stance on Ukraine/Crimea rebels being armed by the US to resist Russian occupation, now the Republican's are against it......AND, how Trump campaigned on trashing NATO, parroting Putin's stance on NATO.

a reply to: gladtobehere

Can someone Tell Trump that if it weren't for Snowden, we wouldn't know that our public servants are spying on us.

Oh he knows that, but will never tell...

a reply to: windword

. The State Department invites foreign ambassadors and dignitaries to both conventions as observers of the US's democratic election process.

www.businessinsider.com...

The State department invites them. That is why he was there.

Remember it was Obama's state department. Since we thrive on conjecture, looks like you are to deep in fake news.

originally posted by: windword


LOL, he was at the convention, a campaign event! Of course the election came up! It was an "election event"!

The question is, why was the Russian Ambassador at the convention. What was his interest/stake in Trump's campaign? Isn't it interesting that, at Trump's insistence, the Republican Platform changed and they rewrote their stance on Ukraine/Crimea rebels being armed by the US to resist Russian occupation, now the Republican's are against it......AND, how Trump campaigned on trashing NATO, parroting Putin's stance on NATO.

They did not only change that stance, they changed it drastically, firebrands were at the conference speeches ready to agree to arm the Ukcraine with fighting equipment and all sorts of stuff, and they were stood down by two of Trumps men. Angry people then demanded the minutes of the meeting and were told different stories, (1) there were no minutes?? (2) they would have to wait until the minutes were typed up later on in the week.
A dossier from Ukraine's anti-corruption team suggest that a Trump-Russia quid pro quo was at the heart of the GOP's dramatic shift on Ukraine and that Paul Manafort had been earmarked for $12.7million by Yanukovych.. Manafort, on Trumps team at the time of the GOP conference debacle, was more than likely one of the two Trump men who intervened, (wrongly) at the conference and had the more aggressive motion against Ukraine tabled.

So, the idea is that in return for a softening on Russia, Trump would get hold of the DNC e-mails that Russia would release by a proxy to Wikileaks, (it has to be possible that Assange would not know the real source of those e-mails) therefore having ammunition to blast Clinton and the Democrats on the campaign trail.
All of the above re the conference itself appears to be true, and there's no doubt that Trump had a softly softly approach to Russia.
But, the thing is, Trump wasn't talking like much much in 2015 when he spoke via link to a conference in Ukraine he said,
" Russia had pursued an aggressive policy in Ukraine because there is no respect for the United States." Of course that's also a dig at Obama, but still, there is the implication there that he would not be so easy on Russia had he been in charge. Still and all, in that same speech, he did not offer any help, and left it for NATO to 'sort it out'?? confused or what over NATO, even though he has criticised NATO at times, and in the past he has written he didn't care about the Ukraine anyway or what they did. even so, at least one Ukraine activist called Trump a Kremlin agent, Trumps 'stance' didn't fool him as it turns out, now that's back in Sept 2015.
At the end of the day though, it just shows that Trump doesn't know his arse from his elbow when it comes to foreign policy, and says whatever comes out of his gub to suit the situation.
He was well paid for that speech, let's hope it went into his foundation, though I dare say that it did.

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: galien8

Didnt he say that Snowden is a traitor subject to the death penalty?

Let TRUMP pardon Snowden, bring him back to the Homeland as a hero

OK TRUMP is somewhat unreliable and shifts positions very quickly

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: gladtobehere
Can someone Tell Trump that if it werent for Snowden, we wouldnt know that our public servants are spying on us.

Your public servants have been spying on you since before Snowden was born. We've know all about it since before he was born, too.

Snowden ran to China. Then he ran to Russia.

Yes but now on a gargantuan #bigbrotheriswatchingyou scale with the biggest data centers (they set billions of state-of-the-art super computer servers in those data centers against a single IPAD tablet, to hackencrack)

originally posted by: UKTruth
Good lord, Kislyak was at the convention.. is there something wrong with talking to the Russian Ambassador?
This story is irrelevant. The only strands of anything that the Dems have is that Sessions met with Kislyak privately (well with 3 other people), but they are going to need to prove he talked about the campaign.

indeed good be socially innocent meetings, not worth mentioning, you must not awake sleeping dogs (as we say in Holland)

originally posted by: neo96

When the Russia hack comes in The Courts

Don't count on it.

Because that would mean they'd have to provide PROOF.

Trump critics would lose. That's why they throw everything they can in the kangaroo courts of public opinion.

Where mere accusations are good enough to convict people.

...in Bamberg wurden Heksen besagt... #precrime

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: UKTruth
Good lord, Kislyak was at the convention.. is there something wrong with talking to the Russian Ambassador?
This story is irrelevant. The only strands of anything that the Dems have is that Sessions met with Kislyak privately (well with 3 other people), but they are going to need to prove he talked about the campaign.

LOL, he was at the convention, a campaign event! Of course the election came up! It was an "election event"!

The question is, why was the Russian Ambassador at the convention. What was his interest/stake in Trump's campaign? Isn't it interesting that, at Trump's insistence, the Republican Platform changed and they rewrote their stance on Ukraine/Crimea rebels being armed by the US to resist Russian occupation, now the Republican's are against it......AND, how Trump campaigned on trashing NATO, parroting Putin's stance on NATO.

...just two guys talking, doing business, just politics, doing politics is now a felony...

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: gladtobehere

Can someone Tell Trump that if it weren't for Snowden, we wouldn't know that our public servants are spying on us.

Oh he knows that, but will never tell...

He must pardon Snowden

...Oh ;-( I beg of you not to forget Snowden, maybe this post will help you to remember him :-(...

originally posted by: smurfy

...release by a proxy to Wikileaks, (it has to be possible that Assange would not know the real source of those e-mails) therefore having ammunition to blast Clinton and the Democrats on the campaign trail...

Pardon Assange too bring him back to the Homeland too, drop the two female one male menage-a-trois rape instance by the not most masculine man in the world (Assange) of two female body builders.

a reply to: galien8

Snowden and Assange for that matter are never going to be pardoned. They are going to be eaten alive.

Just like Manning