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Donald Trump has just directly accused Obama of wiretapping Trump residence.

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posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

Did you see that? Where would he have gotten that?




posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: introvert

The ones that shows the request for wiretapping Trump tower and server.



But they do not show that Trump was personally wiretapped for the sake of the election and Obama knew about it?



Those details will no doubt come out in Congressional hearings. It's going to be a busy year for Obama.


Or those details may not come out because it's false. You guys are putting the cart before the horse here.

It appears Levin is only discussing what we knew last year.


Possibly yes, but that is why we need the details. To get to the bottom of it.


You are talking as if guilt is a foregone conclusion.

Contradicting yourself quite a bit here.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

He claimed they are public records and anybody can get them.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



We don't know that - hence an investigation.


Then why are you saying Obama is in trouble, etc?

You don't have any details.


Of course he is in trouble. He is going to be dragged through Congressional hearings that will drag on for months. He'll be subject to questioning that he is not going to be comfortable with. He may not be indicted, but he is nonetheless going to be investigated. Just like Hillary was in trouble, but ultimately not indicted.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

I'm sure trump doesn't want that.
He's making noise again.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

Just found the YT clip



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: introvert

The ones that shows the request for wiretapping Trump tower and server.



But they do not show that Trump was personally wiretapped for the sake of the election and Obama knew about it?



Those details will no doubt come out in Congressional hearings. It's going to be a busy year for Obama.


Or those details may not come out because it's false. You guys are putting the cart before the horse here.

It appears Levin is only discussing what we knew last year.


Possibly yes, but that is why we need the details. To get to the bottom of it.


You are talking as if guilt is a foregone conclusion.

Contradicting yourself quite a bit here.


No. Getting the details of what happened and whether he is guilty or not is not assuming guilt.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: marg6043

Bring it.
Where has trump even proved any wire tapping ever took place?


So you have not looked at a single link in the 80+ page thread that multiple times the results of a simple google showed the FBI wanted to specifically target trump phones the FISA was denied, then they came back and narrowed the scope to a server at trump tower and it was approved, after they found no evidence the surveillance was continued.

Multiple people provided multiple links, or you could google FBI trump tower surveillance and read it yourself.
edit on 5-3-2017 by Irishhaf because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

Thanks you, that is the best piece this morning so far, he knows what he is talking about and is telling that Obama will not be able to get off this one that easy.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



We don't know that - hence an investigation.


Then why are you saying Obama is in trouble, etc?

You don't have any details.


Of course he is in trouble. He is going to be dragged through Congressional hearings that will drag on for months. He'll be subject to questioning that he is not going to be comfortable with. He may not be indicted, but he is nonetheless going to be investigated. Just like Hillary was in trouble, but ultimately not indicted.


If he did not do what is claimed, how would that be trouble for him?

Just because the Republicans enjoy a good witch hunt does not mean he is in trouble.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth

The United States has fallen to banana republic status. Happy?

Well ... that didn't occur in just a single frikkin' month.

I'll take that from you as a tacit 'lefty' admission and say, "Thanks a lot, Obozo."



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

Not info on FISA warrants. That law is pretty specific on who can and who cannot see that. Even the judges that can be empanaled have to have top security clearance just to hear the complaint.
The law has been posted within this thread twice that I saw.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: introvert

The ones that shows the request for wiretapping Trump tower and server.



But they do not show that Trump was personally wiretapped for the sake of the election and Obama knew about it?



Those details will no doubt come out in Congressional hearings. It's going to be a busy year for Obama.


Or those details may not come out because it's false. You guys are putting the cart before the horse here.

It appears Levin is only discussing what we knew last year.


Possibly yes, but that is why we need the details. To get to the bottom of it.


You are talking as if guilt is a foregone conclusion.

Contradicting yourself quite a bit here.


No. Getting the details of what happened and whether he is guilty or not is not assuming guilt.


The language you are using assumes guilt.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



We don't know that - hence an investigation.


Then why are you saying Obama is in trouble, etc?

You don't have any details.


Of course he is in trouble. He is going to be dragged through Congressional hearings that will drag on for months. He'll be subject to questioning that he is not going to be comfortable with. He may not be indicted, but he is nonetheless going to be investigated. Just like Hillary was in trouble, but ultimately not indicted.


If he did not do what is claimed, how would that be trouble for him?

Just because the Republicans enjoy a good witch hunt does not mean he is in trouble.

I'd suggest that being dragged through Congressional hearings in front of the world is going to be troubling for him - innocent or guilty.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



We don't know that - hence an investigation.


Then why are you saying Obama is in trouble, etc?

You don't have any details.


Of course he is in trouble. He is going to be dragged through Congressional hearings that will drag on for months. He'll be subject to questioning that he is not going to be comfortable with. He may not be indicted, but he is nonetheless going to be investigated. Just like Hillary was in trouble, but ultimately not indicted.


If he did not do what is claimed, how would that be trouble for him?

Just because the Republicans enjoy a good witch hunt does not mean he is in trouble.

I'd suggest that being dragged through Congressional hearings in front of the world is going to be troubling for him - innocent or guilty.


Troubling for him and being in trouble are two different things.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: introvert

The ones that shows the request for wiretapping Trump tower and server.



But they do not show that Trump was personally wiretapped for the sake of the election and Obama knew about it?



Those details will no doubt come out in Congressional hearings. It's going to be a busy year for Obama.


Or those details may not come out because it's false. You guys are putting the cart before the horse here.

It appears Levin is only discussing what we knew last year.


Possibly yes, but that is why we need the details. To get to the bottom of it.


You are talking as if guilt is a foregone conclusion.

Contradicting yourself quite a bit here.


No. Getting the details of what happened and whether he is guilty or not is not assuming guilt.


The language you are using assumes guilt.


I don't assume he is guilty. I think he probably is, but the investigation is a good step to find out whether there is something to what is a very serious accusation.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth



We don't know that - hence an investigation.


Then why are you saying Obama is in trouble, etc?

You don't have any details.


Of course he is in trouble. He is going to be dragged through Congressional hearings that will drag on for months. He'll be subject to questioning that he is not going to be comfortable with. He may not be indicted, but he is nonetheless going to be investigated. Just like Hillary was in trouble, but ultimately not indicted.


If he did not do what is claimed, how would that be trouble for him?

Just because the Republicans enjoy a good witch hunt does not mean he is in trouble.

I'd suggest that being dragged through Congressional hearings in front of the world is going to be troubling for him - innocent or guilty.


On the contrary: he is very eloquent and will be able to use the hearings to explain why the intelligence establishment suspects that Donald trump is being controlled by Russian intelligence. Even if it turns out that Trump is innocent, the question will be raised over and over again. Trump is crazy to give the bully pulpit over to President Obama.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

I am sure Obama will not be a happy camper, but like I said before he is cooking behind those mansion doors since he went into "retirement" as president, I know for a fact that relinquishing power over his successor has not been an easy task, but what goes around comes around.

Whatever he tried against the Trump administration along with whomever is with him, probably Hillary hiding in the closet with Valerie, will become their nightmare.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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this specific problem is one of the reasons there was proteat against the patriot act

this specific problem is why fisa laws were passed

what has been done is illegal



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth

It already is. They didn't call him no drama Obama for nothing.
His laundry is clean no worries.


My Lord, are you paid to post here?



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