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Donald Trump has just directly accused Obama of wiretapping Trump residence.

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posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: mobiusmale

originally posted by: Konduit
Obama is the first president in US History to actively work to sabotage his successor after an election. What's happening to America?


Precisely...as I mentioned in a few threads yesterday.

I continue to believe (without direct evidence of course, just a hunch), that if enough onion layers are peeled back, we are going to find that there is a nexus between Hillary's Pay for Play State Department - and the billions laundered through the Clinton Foundation - and Obama.

When Hillary unexpectedly lost the election, that likely did not cancel out the favours due from the Clintons and the Obamas (and their overall cartel). My theory is that Obama and Clinton have been told to destroy the Trump Administration, and get things back on track with the rewards that are due to their many "donors"

If a loan shark lends you money to place a bet, and you lose the bet - you still have to pay back the shark, with huge interest...or else.

I speculate that, not only did Obama monitor Trump campaign communications and conversations during the campaign, and during the transition (Flynn is an obvious example and casualty), but Obama loyalists/globalist operatives are still monitoring all communications within the Trump Administration - including everything being said in the Oval office (how did the Press get transcripts of his calls to Australia and Mexico).

It is widely believed that, amongst we conspiracy thinkers, that there is a Shadow Government (that runs more than the US Government). IMHO, unless Trump goes out hard and strong against Obama now (this could be the beginning), Obama is still going to be the one who is pulling the strings...for the people who have the guns to his and the Clinton's heads.

Tip of the iceberg folks...


Given what has been going on, I think Trump has to take the gloves off and investigate the entirety of the last 8 years and show the world exactly what Obama was up to. He has the power to declassify all the documents required to lay bare what Obama was doing behind the curtain.




posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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The Secret Service was housed in Trump Tower also, weren't they?

So their phones must have been tapped too?

How did they not know that?




posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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CNN and the NYT are connected. All of their "unnamed" and "anonymous" sources.

Donald Trump is THE PRESIDENT now. Not just some citizen hurling accusations.

There WILL be an investigation.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Oh, yes we all know that, the spying agencies in our nation have never been loyal to those that they can not control.

But that is ok, is cleaning house time.


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posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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there is an interesting "how convenient" element shaping up in these stories, the timing of the leaks

russian leaks released after trump is innaugurated and starts assembling administration
wire tap leaks released after obama is out of the whitehouse

why so late ?

assuming both leaks are true, why wait so long ? wouldn't that be relevant info to release the day you get it?

taking a step back, who is pulling the strings, who is the puppet master ?

the common thread here is the democratic process for both parties, for all americans seems to be at an all time low, all time weakness, all time vulnerability

if you take your partisan "hooray for my team" hat off and put your "ATS" hat back on, what is really happening here?

any ideas better than "the other side is doing it"?



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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but but but... Hillary's emails.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy
The Secret Service was housed in Trump Tower also, weren't they?

So their phones must have been tapped too?

How did they not know that?


Because the FISA court and the three letter agencies are all super secret, and can do such yhings.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: syrinx high priest

To me It only comes to what we have known is happening in America for a long time since the Bush era that had a strong hold on the spying agencies until Obama came around and clean house.

US is still one of the most corrupted countries in the world, where a shadow always looms over the White house

That shadow is our illustrious spying agencies.

The rest of the world is laughing their arses off at our expenses right now, while the rest of the unsuspecting Americans are waking up and banging their chest on disbelieve.

That is ok, at least people are waking up.


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posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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Obama's administration may have been doing that, using the Russian connection fallacy as justification of doing it. The whole Russia thing may have been created to guarantee that Hillary would win by tapping his phones and gathering intel to use against him.

I don't know if it happened, I just think it could possibly have been done and I see that to justify this they would have had to throw up false flags.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: mobiusmale




I continue to believe (without direct evidence of course, just a hunch), that if enough onion layers are peeled back, we are going to find that there is a nexus between Hillary's Pay for Play State Department - and the billions laundered through the Clinton Foundation - and Obama.
One thing is for sure is the blood hounds have the sent .I think it will or can only go as far as Obama .Its those ME states that needs to be brought into the larger picture .Maybe the 28 page 911 document could do that . I do think that Trump supporters will grow and that might embolden him more ,so there is that ...Its the greatest show of the 21st century so far .



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Is all about the "anonymous sources" isn't and why the whole issue can never be prove and disproved, but the seed of incertitude is planted, the deceptions, the lies, let the media plant the seed and let the people reap whatever they want to harvest.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: carewemust

Is all about the "anonymous sources" isn't and why the whole issue can never be prove and disproved, but the seed of incertitude is planted, the deceptions, the lies, let the media plant the seed and let the people reap whatever they want to harvest.



Oh, the people involved can be found - now that the source of leaks seems to have been found, its only a matter of working back and time spent piecing it together. If I was involved in these leaks, I would be very very worried right about now.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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Any response from Obama yet? Has he denied it?
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ETA: CNN stated that former president's aides are aware of it but have yet to comment...
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posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: texasgirl
Any response from Obama yet?

Don't hold your breath waiting .



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 10:00 AM
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You got it all wrong. I've been getting it right regarding Trump since he's been inaugurated. There's a warrant on him and his buddies. NSA/CIA/FBI are listening in.



originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: SeekingAlpha

Only in your dreams my friend, is nothing coming out of this but more fuel to the fire of how the Trump administration has been undermined and who controls who in Washington for everybody to see.

The voters are never forgiving, look how they turn their back to the democrats and their candidate last elections.

The people just will see what is going on and will not be happy about it.

Who is the victim?

Trump.




posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
Don't hold your breath waiting .


I find it odd that he did not immediately say something along the lines of, 'You're out of your mind, we did no such thing'.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: syrinx high priest
there is an interesting "how convenient" element shaping up in these stories, the timing of the leaks

russian leaks released after trump is innaugurated and starts assembling administration
wire tap leaks released after obama is out of the whitehouse

why so late ?

assuming both leaks are true, why wait so long ? wouldn't that be relevant info to release the day you get it?

taking a step back, who is pulling the strings, who is the puppet master ?

the common thread here is the democratic process for both parties, for all americans seems to be at an all time low, all time weakness, all time vulnerability

if you take your partisan "hooray for my team" hat off and put your "ATS" hat back on, what is really happening here?

any ideas better than "the other side is doing it"?


This is not "the other side". This is the only side - the side that has been running the country for the longest time. There is a reason that the 0.1% are getting exponentially richer and it has nothing to do with capitalism (or socialism for that matter).



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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i'm so glad ya'll made such a big stink about Hillary's emails.

makes all this so much more comical!

CAN'T WAIT until they release everything. bless his little heart, he does like leaks, said so himself, as did all of you.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: SeekingAlpha
You got it all wrong. I've been getting it right regarding Trump since he's been inaugurated. There's a warrant on him and his buddies. NSA/CIA/FBI are listening in.

There are transcripts available of these people's discussions. He's royally screwed if he blabbers off like he usually does.


originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: SeekingAlpha

Only in your dreams my friend, is nothing coming out of this but more fuel to the fire of how the Trump administration has been undermined and who controls who in Washington for everybody to see.

The voters are never forgiving, look how they turn their back to the democrats and their candidate last elections.

The people just will see what is going on and will not be happy about it.

Who is the victim?

Trump.




posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: butcherguy
Don't hold your breath waiting .


I find it odd that he did not immediately say something along the lines of, 'You're out of your mind, we did no such thing'.


They will be very busy today preparing a response. Trump is not like any opponent they have faced before because he is willing to just call the whole thing out in front of the the people. They expect a rival to be 'careful' and not risk opening the can of worms. They must surely realise by now that they have underestimated Trump.



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