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Donald Trump has just directly accused Obama of wiretapping Trump residence.

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posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: Indigo5

Google it it is fact..



Somehow I think those are the exact words Trump is telling the crowd of his panicked spokespeople gathered around him right now asking WTF he was tweeting about.




posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: Sublimecraft

he's jealous of him bc Obama...even though he's not president anymore...is still getting all the glory



My look and thoughts exactly lmao



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: Konduit




No more mention of this on the top stories on google, just regurgitated hit pieces about Russia from the Washington Compost.
Cant and wont last ...This is a 911 political event ....maybe bigger



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:05 PM
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Okay? So they say Russia hacked Podesta. Where's the evidence? Still waiting.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:05 PM
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So has Obammy responded yet?

It would be so awesome if he was taken into custody. He deserves to be in prison solely for all the division he has caused, not to mention the huge list of shady things he has done over the years. Then it's Hillary's turn!



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra



They will ignore it because it doesnt fit with their agenda.


No. It's because we KNOW that the FBI obtained a warrant through the judicial system, and that you have no evidence that Obama used his presidency to circumvent that process.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Indigo5

You are clueless..

Stop making stuff up.. It gets old.


Trump lacks the capacity to differentiate between paranoid delusion and reality.

He has demonstrated that clearly and repeatedly..

Ideologues like yourself defending him for these kinds of statements is outright embarrassing...for you and frankly the entire country...It is embarrassing that we have a President so unhinged and paranoid and it's embarrassing that we have Americans (Presumably) so ideologically-retarded that they pathetically try to defend his delusions.

Trump as President is a clear and present danger to any and every rational observer.



So everyone is irrational according to you but your the one not being rational.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xcathdra



They will ignore it because it doesnt fit with their agenda.


No. It's because we KNOW that the FBI obtained a warrant through the judicial system, and that you have no evidence that Obama used his presidency to circumvent that process.


and if you paid attention ever you would know we were refuting the lie told by Valerie Jarret that a president cant order a wiretap when in fact they can.

you guys really need to read and understand what it is you are Reading before you make false claims.
edit on 4-3-2017 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:07 PM
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AFAIK, a FISA can be granted for a year to spy on a foreign government, not on a foreign bank. Am I correct?



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

Radio host Mark Levin used his Thursday evening show to outline the known steps taken by President Barack Obama’s administration in its last months to undermine Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and, later, his new administration.

Levin called Obama’s effort “police state” tactics, and suggested that Obama’s actions, rather than conspiracy theories about alleged Russian interference in the presidential election to help Trump, should be the target of congressional investigation.

Drawing on sources including the New York Times and the Washington Post, Levin described the case against Obama so far, based on what is already publicly known. The following is an expanded version of that case, including events that Levin did not mention specifically but are important to the overall timeline.

1. June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

2. July: Russia joke. Wikileaks releases emails from the Democratic National Committee that show an effort to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) from winning the presidential nomination. In a press conference, Donald Trump refers to Hillary Clinton’s own missing emails, joking: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.” That remark becomes the basis for accusations by Clinton and the media that Trump invited further hacking.

3. October: Podesta emails. In October, Wikileaks releases the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, rolling out batches every day until the election, creating new mini-scandals. The Clinton campaign blames Trump and the Russians.

4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

5. January 2017: Buzzfeed/CNN dossier. Buzzfeed releases, and CNN reports, a supposed intelligence “dossier” compiled by a foreign former spy. It purports to show continuous contact between Russia and the Trump campaign, and says that the Russians have compromising information about Trump. None of the allegations can be verified and some are proven false. Several media outlets claim that they had been aware of the dossier for months and that it had been circulating in Washington.

6. January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.

7. January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies — the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the exisentence of “a multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.

8. February: Mike Flynn scandal. Reports emerge that the FBI intercepted a conversation in 2016 between future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — then a private citizen — and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. The intercept supposedly was part of routine spying on the ambassador, not monitoring of the Trump campaign. The FBI transcripts reportedly show the two discussing Obama’s newly-imposed sanctions on Russia, though Flynn earlier denied discussing them. Sally Yates, whom Trump would later fire as acting Attorney General for insubordination, is involved in the investigation. In the end, Flynn resigns over having misled Vice President Mike Pence (perhaps inadvertently) about the content of the conversation.

9. February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims — and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.

10. March: the Washington Post targets Jeff Sessions. The Washington Post reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had contact twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign — once at a Heritage Foundation event and once at a meeting in Sessions’s Senate office. The Post suggests that the two meetings contradict Sessions’s testimony at his confirmation hearings that he had no contacts with the Russians, though in context (not presented by the Post) it was clear he meant in his capacity as a campaign surrogate, and that he was responding to claims in the “dossier” of ongoing contacts. The New York Times, in covering the story, adds that the Obama White House “rushed to preserve” intelligence related to alleged Russian links with the Trump campaign. By “preserve” it really means “disseminate”: officials spread evidence throughout other government agencies “to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators” and perhaps the media as well.

In summary: the Obama administration sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign; continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found; then relaxed the NSA rules to allow evidence to be shared widely within the government, virtually ensuring that the information, including the conversations of private citizens, would be leaked to the media.

Levin called the effort a “silent coup” by the Obama administration and demanded that it be investigated.


Very much appreciated!! Do you have a link?


IMO, Kislyak is and has been working for the Dems. That first supposed meeting with Sessions that the Washington Post calls a "meeting" is this:


Two months before the September meeting, Sessions attended a Heritage Foundation event in July on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention that was attended by about 50 ambassadors. When the event was over, a small group of ambassadors approached Sessions as he was leaving the podium, and Kislyak was among them, the Justice Department official said.



Yet the WaPo headline is this: "Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year".

The second meeting was a conversation he had with this ambassador and 25 others as his position on the Foreign Relations commitee as Senator.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: spiritualzombie




US intelligence officials say


Absolutely meaningless.

The Intelligence community is no different than the mob.

A general consensus is never met.


LOL poor little guy in denial... Sorry, but they all agree... Russian interference is unanimous... Very much a consensus... Sorry snowflake.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
So has Obammy responded yet?

It would be so awesome if he was taken into custody. He deserves to be in prison solely for all the division he has caused, not to mention the huge list of shady things he has done over the years. Then it's Hillary's turn!

He isn't allowed to. He may say something on a whim, but in about three months he will be questioned legally, under oath and spill the beans. Well...start spilling the beans to save his own ass.

This is going to be priceless.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep

So has Obammy responded yet?



twitter.com...



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Xcathdra



They will ignore it because it doesnt fit with their agenda.


No. It's because we KNOW that the FBI obtained a warrant through the judicial system, and that you have no evidence that Obama used his presidency to circumvent that process.

Ok...but he did. He was told to and it will all come out.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Now don't go interrupting his or her narrative with facts we are now in a post truth society where you just make crap up then call people racists,homophobes,islamophobes or fascists if they don't believe what you've just pulled out of your ass.



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra




what is fake?


That Trump is the manufactured villain in this story.

Standard operating procedure for his critics.

Manufacturing boogeyman.

From Bankers,corporations,ceos,rich people,climate, and guns.

Now it's Russia.

The Democrats are gonna save us from the Big Orange and Red scare!




posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Indigo5

Anything relevant to the thread?


When Trump haters have no legitimate argument to make.

The fall back position is ad homenims. IE 'Trumps stupid'.


Oh man, now here's some irony:

From a few posts up:

"Obama is a true moron."

But I guess it's only a problem when it's Dear Leader being made fun of?



posted on Mar, 4 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: spiritualzombie




US intelligence officials say


Absolutely meaningless.

The Intelligence community is no different than the mob.

A general consensus is never met.


LOL poor little guy in denial... Sorry, but they all agree... Russian interference is unanimous... Very much a consensus... Sorry snowflake.


Complete and utter garbage.




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