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Donald Trump has just directly accused Obama of wiretapping Trump residence.

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posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: AutonomousMeatPuppet

Oh did Napolitano name his sources? As far as I know he's gone silent.




posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

Nailed it.



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth

I thought spying was okay if it reveals criminal activities. Or is that only if the criminal is a Democrat?


But Flynn was/is a Democrat.




posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

Fox News officially, on air, denied having any knowledge as was claimed directly by Mr. Napolitano, i.e., that intelligence sources had informed Fox News of DIRECT collusion between Obama and the GCHQ ... and has indefinitely suspended Mr. Napolitano for doing so ... yet, not one of the supporters of that nonsense has the testicular fortitude to admit they were taken in (along with the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES) by fake news from infotainment talent on Fox.



Of course Fox is denying.

The material is all classified.




posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Unfortunately, Trump hired a lot of people who aren't as "smart" as they were given credit. When you follow the money you find typical Clintonesque sleeze. Skirting as much ethics for self worth as possible.
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posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: luthier

And now Trump has some pretty good "unofficial" sources to rely on besides the "official" intel.

All part of the game of disruption.




posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Yep, the leaks certainly benifit trump. He got a good heads up. He was smart enough to use it as misdirection. Lots of asymmetrical warfare going on. I think Trump and crew are way over their head in that game. Don't realize the fall is being set up.

His policies, particularly economics are the real scary news. The whole hit them with absurdity to become the hero in negotiation is an overplayed gimmick and the 6 or 7 statesman left are on to him. One is playing to his narcissistic tendency and praising him whenever he can.

Should be fun.
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posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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a reply to: luthier




Sure. There are a myriad of ethics rules around investment, disclosure of contact with foreign agents. Far too many to list.

And with all that, still no evidence of collusion or any criminal activity; as stated in the hearing.




And NO there is No proof of an illegal surveillance. Anywhere. The leak was illegal but helped trump as much as hurt. All the FBI needed was a link and their entire investigation is legal. Which is what happened based on the fact they actually found something.

The info released/unmasked (as no one said at this point if it was either) is the proof.

Please provide "what they found". I have yet to see any proof of any wrongdoing by the trump campaign. The FBI does not get to fish to make an investigation legal.
The ic can listen all the live long day to any foreign agent; the us citizen portion of any of that contact is protected. The only evidence discussed at the hearing was the flynn info which they all admitted SHOULD have been protected.

Without proof of wrongdoing how is this not a technologically advanced watergate?



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: luthier




Sure. There are a myriad of ethics rules around investment, disclosure of contact with foreign agents. Far too many to list.

And with all that, still no evidence of collusion or any criminal activity; as stated in the hearing.




And NO there is No proof of an illegal surveillance. Anywhere. The leak was illegal but helped trump as much as hurt. All the FBI needed was a link and their entire investigation is legal. Which is what happened based on the fact they actually found something.

The info released/unmasked (as no one said at this point if it was either) is the proof.

Please provide "what they found". I have yet to see any proof of any wrongdoing by the trump campaign. The FBI does not get to fish to make an investigation legal.
The ic can listen all the live long day to any foreign agent; the us citizen portion of any of that contact is protected. The only evidence discussed at the hearing was the flynn info which they all admitted SHOULD have been protected.

Without proof of wrongdoing how is this not a technologically advanced watergate?


The hearing never said a word about evidence or collusion because it's classified.

Are you really that naive? They are still investigating. That would imply they are still investigating. For a reason.

With all the talk of illegal acts from Obama. Why did Gowdy go after the leaks. Not the investigation.

They all complied saying it is a current investigation.

NOBODY. Said the investigation should stop and there is no evidence. Not even Gowdy.



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:03 AM
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The MSM is a outlet for covert CIA news pieces .If the IC is leaking to the press documents like the Flynn conversation they would also want to have a spin to it as well .We sometimes call it bias but it may be more about a propaganda campaign that can accomplish two objectives . I would suggest that the Russian Trump narrative being tied together is to weaken Trump and to have Americans ready to march off to war .



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Every leak including Flynn has benifit trump. Even the Republican emails. Everything.

If your an investigator that is a lead and a big one.

Maybe the FBI has been hacked and the Russians themselves are leaking. They are playing a long game to destabilize. Maybe the intel agencies haven't publicly admitted completely different paths because......it's an investigation.

Trump also should not be tweeting classified info like he did. He is the president. Not TMZ editor.

Oh and they said he shouldn't have been unmasked based on nothing at all to do with guilt.

If you actually listen it's because there was an active investigation and leaking the info hurts their investigation.

Spin spin spin.
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posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Fine if you're going to insist on using the word spying then we're going to clarify that by calling it legitimate spying.
Legal in every sense. Overseen by the courts that said it was warranted. Happy?
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posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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When can we discuss what we've learned by this legitimate spying? Let's talk about trumps history with the Russians.



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

I would assume once the financial records were investigated the investigation started. Even Ross has questionable off shore investment partnerships.

Most of this is right on the ethical line.

That is enough for me to prove Trump is just another crook surrounded by crooks.

Even the public info on connections and investments is enough to scrutinize motives to any non partisan person.

Let me also remind a lot of the preliminary investigation was done privately by republicans and a Republican gave Intel a docier as well.

I am going with a big hack that effected even Intel and Russian agents pretended to be anonymous sources. Since we are all throwing wild speculation out.
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posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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Igor Sechin. CEO Rosneft ( gas company giant) former KGB and Putin's friend. Trump connection. Carter Page. Page meets with Sechin in July 2016. Page is offered brokerage fees by Sechin that amount to 19% share of the company.
A sale of 19.5% of the company is later recorded with the purchaser and brokerage fees kept secret.
The Russians also promise documentation damaging to Clinton which they would release through an outlet that gives them deniability like Wikileaks!
In exchange the campaign agrees to soften its stance on the Russia Crimea issue and to criticise NATO.
Both of which shortly took place as we saw in the change of the republican platform just prior to the convention and trumps constant rhetoric on NATO nations not paying their fair share.



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

What Flynn is/ was is a traitor.



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

As evidenced by the lengthy prison sentence he is expected to receive at his trial.....



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:48 AM
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All media is a CIA operation ... except for Fox, of course, and Breitbart, which are completely reliable in every way ... so much so ... the President himself doesn't even need security briefings because he watches and reads.

#whatintheworldhappenedtoUS



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Fox News officially, on air, denied having any knowledge as was claimed directly by Mr. Napolitano, i.e., that intelligence sources had informed Fox News of DIRECT collusion between Obama and the GCHQ ... and has indefinitely suspended Mr. Napolitano for doing so ... yet, not one of the supporters of that nonsense has the testicular fortitude to admit they were taken in (along with the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES) by fake news from infotainment talent on Fox.



Of course Fox is denying.

The material is all classified.



Yep.

Classified as garbage.



posted on Mar, 22 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
All media is a CIA operation ... except for Fox, of course, and Breitbart, which are completely reliable in every way ... so much so ... the President himself doesn't even need security briefings because he watches and reads.

#whatintheworldhappenedtoUS


All media is a CIA operation, except for Brietbart because he pushes Trump's agenda and not the CIA's.

Fox is as much in the tank as anyone. They say the same crap (where it matters) but in a way that can be digested by their audience. All of it would make Goebbels proud.




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