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Donald Trump has just directly accused Obama of wiretapping Trump residence.

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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Didn't he say let the tweets speak for themselves just a few days ago?
This is a circus.




posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 01:55 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

Because what he does now, what he blurts out now. Has consequences to others than himself.

He's the President of the United States. What he says is supposed to mean something.



I don't think the Presidency is as revered as it used to be. Bill Clinton made it a casual, fun job. It was popular for people to call Bush, Jr. horrible things, right out in public. Obama restored some reverence to the office.

Now we have a Casino/Hotel/Reality guy running the country. As President, there's no telling what may come out of his mouth! People who don't understand that, probably didn't vote for him. They should start gearing up for 2018/2020. Oprah is said to be interested in a 2020 run for Madam President.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 01:56 AM
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a reply to: SBMcG

Let's see now. If they had nothing why drag it out?
Because the longer they drag it out the longer trump has before he has to admit he made the whole thing up maybe?
Or to give America time to move on to something different?
Or to make some (cough cough) believe they have evidence.

If trump could prove what he's claiming he would have already tweeted it . He has no self control. He would never be able to sit on it if he had anything.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 01:57 AM
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a reply to: carewemust



It was popular for people to call Bush, Jr. horrible things, right out in public.
Once again, Trump is the President of the United States. He is lowering the bar. Accuse anyone you want of anything you want to. It doesn't matter if there's any evidence. Right?



As President, there's no telling what may come out of his mouth! People who don't understand that, probably didn't vote for him.
Right. Those who understand that he doesn't even know when he's lying didn't vote for him.
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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 01:58 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Keeps people from talking about Russia and that's all that matters.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 01:59 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
Anyone have thoughts about Clintons campaign meeting with the same Russians Trumps team met with?


This was on the nightly news complete with pics, interview, etc
guess even at that some people will deny.

Following along with great interest to your knowledgeable and
straightforward posts, thank you!



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:00 AM
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a reply to: Phage

No they're not kidding. They're shooting for the Emmy.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:01 AM
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/sigh

The refrigerator can't seem to understand plain English either

a reply to: Xcathdra

I copied FROM YOUR SOURCE FROM YOUR POST.

And your source doesn't say that anyone met with the Clinton campaign.

I'm not even sure you know what you're arguing because NO ONE has said Trump contacted Russia.

If you wonder why you're being called a parrot, its because youkeep repeating the saem thigns over and over and over.

and as far as "derailing the thread" it was YOU who randomly decided to toss in the bit about Clinton.

Is Clinton the topic?

Nope.

So, let's get back to the basics, shall we? Since you're so interested in staying on track now?

What evidence do you have to show that Barack Obama ordered illegal wiretaps on Donald Trump?

Don't answer any other question, don't bring anything else up, don't talk about me or other members, don't parrot bias and hypocrisy and lack of reading comprehension or anything else JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION!

What evidence do you have to show that Barack Obama ordered illegal wiretaps on Donald Trump?



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:03 AM
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originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: Xcathdra
Anyone have thoughts about Clintons campaign meeting with the same Russians Trumps team met with?


This was on the nightly news complete with pics, interview, etc
guess even at that some people will deny.

Following along with great interest to your knowledgeable and
straightforward posts, thank you!



Link these nightly news sources.

We're after evidence here. Not glad-handing.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:03 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Yeah. trump made the tweet. It's him they and frankly the rest of America want the answers from. He just threw Sessions under the bus. Teflon ...



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:14 AM
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“This afternoon, the Department of Justice placed calls to representatives of the Chairman and Ranking Member of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence to ask for additional time to review the request in compliance with the governing legal authorities and to determine what if any responsive documents may exist,” Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores said in a statement Monday evening.


Source

Anyone who can look at the BS wording of that quote and not clearly see that the DOJ/Trump Administration is desperately stalling ... just isn't paying attention.

They need more time "to review the request" ... WHAT? The "request" is to put up or shut up!

Next line: "to determine what IF ANY documents exist."

BS upon BS laced with BS topped with more creamy BS.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:15 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Of course they would have reached out to both camps. That's the ambassadors job.
It's just that in their meetings with them trump and his team were plotting with the Russians to steal the election and destroy Clinton who had embarrassed Putin in front of the world when she called out his bogus election process.
Yeah the twentieth can't come soon enough. Hopefully enough has been declassified to satisfy the people of the results no matter what that may be.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:37 AM
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I really wish this thread didn't continuously drift into the topic of Russians.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:45 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

You are correct. The presidency is not as revered as it once was.
Oh for the good old days.
Last year....



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:51 AM
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a reply to: queenofswords

Hmm... shaking things up for who exactly??? Replacement For Obamacare and the bonus for the elites

I believe some Americans are drinking far too much cool aid.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 02:53 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Sorry.
They seem to be everywhere.
And to be honest, that's what the hearing on the twentieth is about.
But again.
Sorry.
It's trump and evidence of wire taps.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:41 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grimpachi

Sorry.
They seem to be everywhere.
And to be honest, that's what the hearing on the twentieth is about.
But again.
Sorry.
It's trump and evidence of wire taps.


In your opinion, but your opinion counts for no-one but yourself.



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:44 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Here's an interesting question to ponder ... several in the discussion have complained about Obama's late EO that changed the rules for sharing sensitive information ...

... anyone noticed that Trump hasn't done anything about that?


I mentioned that before, and it's baffling as to why he has not cancelled that order.
Maybe he is using it in some way?



posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 04:47 AM
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originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: alphabetaone

originally posted by: UKTruth

There is a claim that Trump's server was monitored as well as the FISA request for monitoring the Russians that swept up some people in his campaign (and some others).



There was also a claim that Jim Comey directed the DOJ to refute Trump's accusations. So, are you cherry picking your 'claims'?



I am hoping the investigation - which seems like it will progress as a public hearing - will provide the answers as to exactly what went on both from the aspect of the surveillance and what was found.


Sure you are.


Actually no. I have not refuted that there is a CLAIM that Comey asked the DoJ to refute Trumps accusation against Obama. In fact, I posted some links to it.
Claims are one thing, assuming they are true is another.
I think you may have jumped a little there without thinking it through.


I agree completely. Assuming they are true are absolutely another thing. So the argument here is that Trump is 100% telling the truth because he made claims, but professional journalists are lying or fabricating because they have reported on a claim. This has been a central theme throughout this entire thread has it not?

So again I ask, which cherry-picked claims are the ones that should be given validity and which should be tossed away?
I thought it through just fine.


No that has not been the central theme, and certainly not my position.
I do not know why you make things up to feed your own sense of injustice.

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posted on Mar, 14 2017 @ 05:06 AM
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