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Donald Trump has just directly accused Obama of wiretapping Trump residence.

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posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




First off I have seen it presented as the DOJ or FBI.

So, you didn't read the BBC article?



If so, why did he then change the rules so that this info could be spread across multiple agencies?
What info?




posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:44 PM
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Anything that any agency did in the last 8 years was done personally by Obama.

That's the other irrational assumption they have to make for the bits and pieces they've cobbled together to work.
edit on 6-3-2017 by Gryphon66 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

The only thing you showed is that you can't read English.

Most literate isn't saying much.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler




First off I have seen it presented as the DOJ or FBI.

So, you didn't read the BBC article?



If so, why did he then change the rules so that this info could be spread across multiple agencies?
What info?


And you are REACHING because there is plenty of what you asked for provided in this thread, Cherry pickers anon has openings I bet, well if they actually existed.

Just kidding.. but you do need to check out the actual facts and not the narrow ones that you can point to. Life exists outside of this forum......
edit on 6-3-2017 by Justoneman because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:49 PM
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Interesting observation by Mark Levin in his open letter to CNN - Open Letter to CNN



Of course, the release of the FISA applications would also shed a lot of light on events, assuming YOU believe reports that they were filed.

Furthermore, Clapper has said, as recently as yesterday, that no connections between the Russians and the Trump campaign have been found. I am extremely critical of Russia, Putin, and the efforts to influence our election, although I do not believe they succeeded. That said, how would Clapper know of no connections if he, as former Director of National Intelligence, didn't look? On what is that based?



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

You are indefatigable Gryphon66. I really admire your stamina in arguing your point.
I have to leave every so often to sooth my bruises. You ..you just keep swinging.
Keep up the good fight.
Karen



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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So ... the "deep state" is leaking information that they gained through "illegal" wiretaps that have demonstrated connections between Russian agents and Mike Flynn, Jeff Sessions that caused one to resign and one to basically hobble himself in his job ... but that also proves that there's no connection between campaign representatives and the Russians.

It takes a special kind of idiot to believe crap like that.

It's almost as dumb as not being able to see that when you tap a Russian who's talking to a Trump surrogate, you don't have to tap the surrogate which results in reports like "Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates."

... and NONE of this gets even a tiny step closer to proving that Obama wiretapped Trump.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

The only thing you showed is that you can't read English.

Most literate isn't saying much.


Oh the irony after your reading comprehension has been exposed before your peers!!! It takes a lot of effort for the mental gymnastics you practice to avoid the truth that your hero was spying on Americans that were running for office AFTER the man won the R ticket.........
edit on 6-3-2017 by Justoneman because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gryphon66

You are indefatigable Gryphon66. I really admire your stamina in arguing your point.
I have to leave every so often to sooth my bruises. You ..you just keep swinging.
Keep up the good fight.
Karen


Nah. It's not a virtue. I'm just more stubborn than they are.

Take care of yourself. (PS, you're clearly right about Comey ... the White House acknowledged his communications with Justice this morning. Expect Comey in the next few days in some manner.)



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gryphon66

You are indefatigable Gryphon66. I really admire your stamina in arguing your point.
I have to leave every so often to sooth my bruises. You ..you just keep swinging.
Keep up the good fight.
Karen


A lot of folks are calling it the good fight to expose the truth that you are IGNORING.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66
Not to derail but the dog and purple/pink avatar got him on his A game I couldn't believe it was him when I read the name.

edit on 6-3-2017 by CrazyK22 because: Cause I'm dumb



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Shortly before the election they had already been investigating her for a year. It was bound to slow down and eventually end no?
Your not still thinking she's going to be indicted are you?
Oh haven't you been disappointed twice already? In July when they cleared her and just before the election when they did so again after getting y'alls hope up with the weeney photographers computer .



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

The only thing you showed is that you can't read English.

Most literate isn't saying much.


Oh the irony after your reading comprehension has been exposed before your peers!!! It take a lot of effort for the mental gymnastics you practice to avoid the truth that your hero was spying on Americans that were running for office AFTER the man won the R ticket.........


I really wish T&C would let me respond appropriately to you. Sadly, I can only say that this post of yours, along with 99.9% of the others made, evinces what can only be described as rather mundane intellects that have been mostly blunted by rampant belief.
edit on 6-3-2017 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:02 PM
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My guess is when the second FISA was granted in October, the spy device was already in place and spying may have happened before the FISA was obtained. The wall climber should be the one who installed the device in Trump tower in July. Either way, someone is in big trouble.
edit on 6-3-2017 by Berns4 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

again this thread was moved t the mudpit forums which have a somehow looser T&C enforcement.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Grambler

The only thing you showed is that you can't read English.

Most literate isn't saying much.


Oh the irony after your reading comprehension has been exposed before your peers!!! It take a lot of effort for the mental gymnastics you practice to avoid the truth that your hero was spying on Americans that were running for office AFTER the man won the R ticket.........


I really wish T&C would let me respond appropriately to you. Sadly, I can only say that this post of yours, along with 99.9% of the others made, evinces what can only be described as a rather mundane intellect whose powers have been mostly blunted by rampant belief.


Fire away bro i can handle your BS any day..Grew up with some real smart asses who learned the hard way...



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
So ... the "deep state" is leaking information that they gained through "illegal" wiretaps that have demonstrated connections between Russian agents and Mike Flynn, Jeff Sessions that caused one to resign and one to basically hobble himself in his job ... but that also proves that there's no connection between campaign representatives and the Russians.

It takes a special kind of idiot to believe crap like that.

It's almost as dumb as not being able to see that when you tap a Russian who's talking to a Trump surrogate, you don't have to tap the surrogate which results in reports like "Intercepted Russian Communications Part of Inquiry Into Trump Associates."

... and NONE of this gets even a tiny step closer to proving that Obama wiretapped Trump.



Hey Mr. G , Do You Actually Believe the Crap you Read Everyday in the MSM News ? You , and Many Others are being Played by the Fiction Pumped Into your Brains Everyday by a Media that Lives to Lie.............



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gryphon66

You are indefatigable Gryphon66. I really admire your stamina in arguing your point.
I have to leave every so often to sooth my bruises. You ..you just keep swinging.
Keep up the good fight.
Karen


A lot of folks are calling it the good fight to expose the truth that you are IGNORING.


What "truth" do you think has been proven that anyone here is ignoring?

Can you frame it in a complete sentence?



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler




First off I have seen it presented as the DOJ or FBI.

So, you didn't read the BBC article?



If so, why did he then change the rules so that this info could be spread across multiple agencies?
What info?


Oh geez Phage.

Here is the article.


Lawyers from the National Security Division in the Department of Justice then drew up an application. They took it to the secret US court that deals with intelligence, the Fisa court, named after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They wanted permission to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks.

Their first application, in June, was rejected outright by the judge. They returned with a more narrowly drawn order in July and were rejected again. Finally, before a new judge, the order was granted, on 15 October, three weeks before election day.


www.bbc.com...

DOJ as I said. Whoops on your part I guess.



posted on Mar, 6 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Grambler




First off I have seen it presented as the DOJ or FBI.

So, you didn't read the BBC article?



If so, why did he then change the rules so that this info could be spread across multiple agencies?
What info?


Oh geez Phage.

Here is the article.


Lawyers from the National Security Division in the Department of Justice then drew up an application. They took it to the secret US court that deals with intelligence, the Fisa court, named after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. They wanted permission to intercept the electronic records from two Russian banks.

Their first application, in June, was rejected outright by the judge. They returned with a more narrowly drawn order in July and were rejected again. Finally, before a new judge, the order was granted, on 15 October, three weeks before election day.


www.bbc.com...

DOJ as I said. Whoops on your part I guess.


It wasn't a whoops, i fully believe it was on purpose.....



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