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Donald Trump has just directly accused Obama of wiretapping Trump residence.

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posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth

We're not talking about some local yokel judge on the circuit court you know. These are federal judges and no matter what your political leanings one must admit or at least acknowledge that federal judges don't get that position by being pigeons.
Therefore the likelihood of any federal judge issuing a warrant against a presidential candidate or the president elect is pretty unlikely. Let's keep this within the realm of actual probability.


really? lololol...

The 9th circuit shoots down your observation about political leanings.


The 9th? Perfect example.


Yes fixed thank you




posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth

We're not talking about some local yokel judge on the circuit court you know. These are federal judges and no matter what your political leanings one must admit or at least acknowledge that federal judges don't get that position by being pigeons.
Therefore the likelihood of any federal judge issuing a warrant against a presidential candidate or the president elect is pretty unlikely. Let's keep this within the realm of actual probability.


You say this, but then how do you respond to the fact that only .03 of all FISA warrant requests are denied?

And their first one was one of those .03.


Exactly! Almost unprecedented.

This to me speaks volumes. We know this rejection to be a fact. So even without knowing anything else, we know that someone in the Obama admin at least attempted to get a warrant to wiretap Trump, and it was such a reach that the FISA court made it the 13th time out of over 33,000 times that they said no. This shows how far the Obama admin was reach8ing to tap Trump.

This alone is very scary. A sitting political party stretching to get a wiretap on their political opponents. Couple that with Obamas last minute policy to share any findings with all agencies, and all of the mysterious leaks coming out against Trump, and it starts to paint a very grim picture.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Except for the people who pronounce and spell America Murica.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Except for the people who pronounce and spell America Murica.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

If the Democrats were able to monitor Trump and still lost the election it just adds to why they have gone effing insane since the loss.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Grambler

My guess would be the relationship the Bush's have with the Clintons and W's recent fawning, and vice vers a, michelle O's fawning over Bush.


Thats exactly it. It shows the real battle in Washington isn't democrat versus Republican, its establishment people on both sides versus people trying to change that.

Thats why we can have liberals who are all about peace and love above all else celebrating a man they called a war criminal. Because he is on their establishment team. They don't want real change to help out real people, they want the elite to continue to control Washington.

Thats why its hard to take them seriously.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




This alone is very scary. A sitting political party stretching to get a wiretap on their political opponents. Couple that with Obamas last minute policy to share any findings with all agencies, and all of the mysterious leaks coming out against Trump, and it starts to paint a very grim picture.

This is scary.
If this is allowed to be swept under the rug like both parties have been able to do in the past we will have crossed into uncharted territory.
This is the type of activity seen in a tyrannical dictatorship. You know kind of like what putin does.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: neo96

TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS RECEIVED BY THE GUARDIAN ? ? ?


Ok just no.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Grambler

If the Democrats were able to monitor Trump and still lost the election it just adds to why they have gone effing insane since the loss.

If this is true it would make hillary the largest fail in recorded history.
It accounts for the hubris that gave us the basket of deplorables and no real apology.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: talisman

They weren't monitoring Flynn either.
They were monitoring Sergey Kislyac.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Grambler

If the Democrats were able to monitor Trump and still lost the election it just adds to why they have gone effing insane since the loss.


If, and I stress it is a big if, it turns out that the Obama admin was tapping Trump, it may be because they were overly confident they would win.

Perhaps they thought a Hillary win would ensure there was no investigation of the tapping of Trump. The loss then could have frightened them knowing that they may be found out, and so they put their efforts in having their media puppets push the Russian narrative 24/7. That way they could fall back on that narrative as the reason for the wiretapping.

Either way, I anxiously await further proof. This has the potential to be the biggest political scandal in my life time no matter which side is in the wrong.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:34 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Grambler




This alone is very scary. A sitting political party stretching to get a wiretap on their political opponents. Couple that with Obamas last minute policy to share any findings with all agencies, and all of the mysterious leaks coming out against Trump, and it starts to paint a very grim picture.

This is scary.
If this is allowed to be swept under the rug like both parties have been able to do in the past we will have crossed into uncharted territory.
This is the type of activity seen in a tyrannical dictatorship. You know kind of like what putin does.


Agreed... if the Obama administration did this they were acting, as Levin said, like a police state.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

It certainly fits with the reports of Clinton going ballistic, telling her staff that if Trump wins "we all hang".

It also would explain the panic we are seeing from the Democratic party and the 24/7 false russia story they keep pushing. The fact they demand investigations, only to bristle when they get them, is telling and disconcerting at the same time.
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posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

Yes, that is the way Trump's mind works! Everything is strategic and value-added in nature.


When it isn't juvenile and impulsive.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Darn better "Murica" than "Amerika" like those who I think wistfully think we should become USSA under their Marxist/Progressive controlling thumbs.

Seems what some want is just that.

Even if it means sedition.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Phoenix

Dont mind her.. She pissed her God Clinton lost. Temper tantrums are all we can expect for the next 8 years.
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posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

Officials call for NSA head to be fired Leadership role, performance cited

The article is from November 20th, which places the calls for him to be fired around the time Trump was elected. According to the CIA officer the Admiral went to Trump Tower and met with Trump when he was elected and told him about the surveillance being conducted on him to cover his own ass because it was an abuse of agency resources and was done for political reasons only. Shortly after that meeting is when the calls for him to be fired started.

I think Trump knew this was going on and let the Democrats / Obama walk face first into a setup to expose what they were doing. The time lines provided by Levin, the fact the Obama administration is the one who set up the meeting between Sessions and the Russian ambassador and the same line of attacks by the left using the bs russia excuse on more than one person.


This makes complete sense, and factoring in the accusations that Sessions
was also bugged fits together nicely.

thehill.com...
Mukasey seems to think it points to DOJ, but I dont care for his
"too big of a can of worms" to open comment.

It is really the right time, imo.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Exactly. Except they have found NO proof of anything concerning the Russians and the Trump admin. The media keeps pretending there is something there, but you're right it's a cover for what is really going on. They are afraid, very afraid.

My understanding is that they kept tapping Trump even after they found nothing on him. It's obvious their goal was to find any little niblet of something that could bring him down. That's when it had nothing to do with Russia and everything to do with sedition.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




Either way, I anxiously await further proof. This has the potential to be the biggest political scandal in my life time no matter which side is in the wrong.

For all we know it could be both.
Either way this is not going away anytime soon.
Those responsible on BOTH sides if guilty need to be removed from any authority.



posted on Mar, 5 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Believes Trump is getting this directly from James Comey Listen at 23:10

youtu.be...



I think @ 23:33 it gets good. That guy is saying the FBI is looking into whether or not the NSA did something illegal. And then they go into NSA vs. FBI.

Ducking crazy time we live in.


Sounds plausible that Trump has been briefed on this by Comey.



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