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Oh, nothing much. Just that the Keystone pipeline is owned by a foreign interest and has nothing whatsoever to do with US "infrastructure". It is a privately owned enterprise.
What was I meant to be reading?
All is see there is non-sequitors.
Im not saying anyone should ignore it, Im saying they sj ould be scraped.
Free trade only benefits the mega rich, everyone else gets screwed.
If Isreal can ignore the UN and international agreements at will I dont see why the US cant turn around and say "This is not in our national interests" every country should.
No matter how much it costs! The government should have the power to tell everyone where to buy their goods! But maybe you missed the part about the pipelines not being government projects. Or maybe you couldn't be bothered.
I have no idea and dont actually care about the pipeline, going forward EVERY COUNTRY not just the US should be using locally produced materials whenever possible
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff
Oh, nothing much. Just that the Keystone pipeline is owned by a foreign interest and has nothing whatsoever to do with US "infrastructure". It is a privately owned enterprise.
What was I meant to be reading?
All is see there is non-sequitors.
Im not saying anyone should ignore it, Im saying they sj ould be scraped.
Free trade only benefits the mega rich, everyone else gets screwed.
If Isreal can ignore the UN and international agreements at will I dont see why the US cant turn around and say "This is not in our national interests" every country should.
No matter how much it costs! The government should have the power to tell everyone where to buy their goods! But maybe you missed the part about the pipelines not being government projects. Or maybe you couldn't be bothered.
I have no idea and dont actually care about the pipeline, going forward EVERY COUNTRY not just the US should be using locally produced materials whenever possible
Oh, nothing much. Just that the Keystone pipeline is owned by a foreign interest and has nothing whatsoever to do with US "infrastructure". It is a privately owned enterprise.
All is see there is non-sequitors.
No matter how much it costs! The government should have the power to tell everyone where to buy their goods! But maybe you missed the part about the pipelines not being government projects. Or maybe you couldn't be bothered.
I really dont understand why people are upset? Those of you upset by this, do you suggest they send back the steel that has already been purchased and ask for a refund?
Ill call this one a broken promise if any gov contracts BUY non American steel from now on.
Orders made prior to the EO should be exempt
It won't be, because the memorandum does not require it nor does the scope of the memorandum imply it. But no, if it costs more it isn't actually a win for anyone but those who sell the overpriced materials. I wonder if Trump's tax returns would reveal investments in US steel manufacturers.
Well then if the rest of the job gets done with US made steel Id say its a win, wouldnt you?
Why will it cost more in the long run? When the project is done, that's it. Cost of construction is cost of construction. If the cost of materials are lower, the cost of construction is lower. The project costs less and the contractor's profits are higher. Trump knows that. That's why he used Chinese steel for his projects.
Having everything manufactured overseas will cost alot more in the long run.
Im not advocating for the Gov sticking its nose in anyones business, Im saying that for Gov contracts as much as possible should come from producers within that country, not just the US but everywhere.
If your premise is that the US Government should have the power to tell private contractors where they must by their materials I do not agree. If I am mistaken in your premise I suppose I have failed to grasp your actual point.
Instead of picking up on an unimportant misunderstanding on my part do you agree with my premise or not?
It won't be, because the memorandum does not require it nor does the scope of the memorandum imply it. But no, if it costs more it isn't actually a win for anyone but those who sell the overpriced materials. I wonder if Trump's tax returns would reveal investments in US steel manufacturers.
Why will it cost more in the long run? When the project is done, that's it. Cost of construction is cost of construction. If the cost of materials are lower, the cost of construction is lower. The project costs less and the contractor's profits are higher. Trump knows that. That's why he used Chinese steel for his projects.
If your premise is that the US Government should have the power to tell private contractors where they must by their materials I do not agree. If I am mistaken in your premise I suppose I have failed to grasp your actual point.
originally posted by: LaitModelFan
Fifteen to twenty years ago all major industrial construction specifications required domestic pipe and structural steel. The problem became you could not adhere to specifications because the products were not available at times. Before you knew it, it became reality that we had to use foreign to build whatever we were building because of availability.
originally posted by: GodEmperor
Does that mean I can't order any more Pak knives or Japanese katanas from ebay?
What about the custom damascus steel blades made in the UK?