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My Friday Night Music Thread. This Week The First Rock Opera.

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posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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Many music lovers have regarded The Who's " Tommy " as the first rock opera produced. It wasn't.

The first genuine rock opera was The Pretty Things " S F Sorrow " It was recoded at the famous Abbey Road Studios London during 1967-68 and released December '68. The Who's " Tommy " was released 5 months later.

For those who don't know this piece of work, relax back and enjoy.

The title and opening track.



The complete work.



In 1998 The Pretty Things performed the whole album live for the first time at Abbey Road Studios. Guest artist included David Gilmour and Arthur Brown.





posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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I used to have all the who's tapes and live at Leeds was the album that started it all for me

Perhaps the pretty things were influenced by Townsends little mini opera a quick one while he's away that I think is older than tommy



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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Did not know that. Very cool. I'm enjoying the music while I ATS. So Gilmour was exposed to and making rock opera even earlier than I thought.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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But, but didn't Authur Brown have his own "Rock Opera" or are we confusing conceptual albums with "Rock Operas"? Does being a movie make it a Rock opera?





I know "Hair" was just a musical, but was it not also a album and by this the 1st "Rock Opera"?

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posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: Whereismypassword
I used to have all the who's tapes and live at Leeds was the album that started it all for me

Perhaps the pretty things were influenced by Townsends little mini opera a quick one while he's away that I think is older than tommy


The only problem with " A Quick One " is the fact that one of the tracks is " Heatwave " which is not an original Who song. It's a cover of the song by Martha Reeves.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: Naturallywired

A " Rock Opera " is an album put together with songs and lyrics that relate to a common story.

A " Concept Album " is more a " Pet Sounds " " Sgt Pepper " and as you have stated " The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown "
The songs do not interlink like they do on " S.F. Sorrow " and " Tommy " etc.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Naturallywired

A " Rock Opera " is an album put together with songs and lyrics that relate to a common story.

A " Concept Album " is more a " Pet Sounds " " Sgt Pepper " and as you have stated " The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown "
The songs do not interlink like they do on " S.F. Sorrow " and " Tommy " etc.

Q: Again "Hair"?



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: Naturallywired

" Hair " was a Broadway Stage Musical.

Hope that helps.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Naturallywired

A " Rock Opera " is an album put together with songs and lyrics that relate to a common story.

A " Concept Album " is more a " Pet Sounds " " Sgt Pepper " and as you have stated " The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown "
The songs do not interlink like they do on " S.F. Sorrow " and " Tommy " etc.

I see your point. Don't get me wrong The Who where brilliant and I am sure they was pioneers on many fronts.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Naturallywired

" Hair " was a Broadway Stage Musical.

Hope that helps.
But it was also a album also. Not the movie soundtrack, but a recording of the first Broadway act.
And yes I know it was a BMA. I thought I had mentioned that?
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posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: Naturallywired

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Naturallywired

" Hair " was a Broadway Stage Musical.

Hope that helps.
But it was also a album also. Not the movie soundtrack, but a recording of the first Broadway act.


The " Album " wasn't released until 1979.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Naturallywired

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Naturallywired

" Hair " was a Broadway Stage Musical.

Hope that helps.
But it was also a album also. Not the movie soundtrack, but a recording of the first Broadway act.


The " Album " wasn't released until 1979.
Um that would be the soundtrack I mentioned above.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:01 PM
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Say what you like, Tommy was and is the first rock Opera.

Feel me, touch me see, see me.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Naturallywired
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Hair was never a " Rock Opera " it was always a " Musical "

It was story made for stage with added music.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

my favorite

1979

en.wikipedia.org...'s_Garage


The story is told by a character identified as the "Central Scrutinizer" narrating the story of Joe, an average adolescent male who forms a garage rock band, has unsatisfying relationships with women, gives all of his money to a government assisted and insincere religion, explores sexual activities with appliances, and is imprisoned. After being released from prison into a dystopian society in which music itself has been criminalized, he lapses into insanity.



The album encompasses a large spectrum of musical styles, while its lyrics often feature satirical or humorous commentary on American society and politics. It addresses themes of individualism, free will, censorship, the music industry and human sexuality, while criticizing government and religion, and satirizing Catholicism and Scientology.



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Naturallywired
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Hair was never a " Rock Opera " it was always a " Musical "

It was story made for stage with added music.

Moving the goalpost does not make "Hair" being a "musical" less than a "Rock opera" Did you even read my post? Hair was a album that was a storyline conceptual album (just like you defined earlier). Seriously get off your British high horse and realize your mistake already. geeze!



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

One of my personal favorite concept albums was this.

Jeff Waynes - War of the worlds.
www.youtube.com...
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posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: Naturallywired
a reply to: TinySickTears

One of my personal favorite concept albums was this.

Jeff Waynes - War of the worlds.
www.youtube.com...


But still they come!!

Weak Twat



posted on Mar, 3 2017 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: Naturallywired
a reply to: TinySickTears

One of my personal favorite concept albums was this.

Jeff Waynes - War of the worlds.
www.youtube.com...


But still they come!!

Weak Twat
Go troll elsewhere.



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