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originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: buster2010
so essentially, nothing he could do would please you, got it.
You are so wrong. Him quitting the job would please me greatly. So have any comment on the actual thread or are you just going to do your usual whine for Trump?
originally posted by: avgguy
First of all your source is an opinion piece that is nothing but conjecture, some might even call it fake news. Second, I watched the speech in its entirety and the only thing that I got was that he was going to continue to be tough on immigration, even more so with the introduction of only taking immigrants that will not be a strain on the system.
originally posted by: umbr360
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
A good leader may do things which are wrong in my opinion yes. A good leader and a good person are not necessarily the same thing. A good leader keeps the promises they made to get voted in(unless circumstances change).
For example, I think 'the wall' is a ridiculous idea. But if he gets it built, and somehow gets Mexico to pay for it, I can't deny that's a sign of good leadership. It would make him a bad person in my eyes though.
To the second point, yes a good person can break promises. If those promises are to do things that I believe are wrong, breaking them is forgivable to me. But that isn't the sign of a good leader, breaking promises for no reason, or making promises you have no intention of keeping is bad leadership.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
Then he is a good leader, because he is keeping his promise. A good leader knows they can't get everything they want and they compromise for the best deal possible. Exactly what he seems to be doing.
So he is a bad person for keeping illegals out? Hilarious.
Making promises you won't keep is not a good person. You seriously need to think this through again.
Trump is keeping his promise of being tough on immigration and dealing with criminal illegals.
Then he is a good leader, because he is keeping his promise.
Yet another day yet another broken promise. He complained about Obama's amnesty and here he is doing the same thing. Hypocrisy much Trump? Trump is just like Obama and Bush before him just another token to be used by corporate America as they see fit. It's funny to see how his followers keep saying how he's going to change things but after it is all done he is just another trained dog.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I'm asking you for examples. You're the one making the claim that Trump has kept his campaign promises. Back it up.