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A few Questions to People who Support "Illegal Immigration and Unvetted Immigration."

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posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 01:01 AM
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To all people who actually think "illegal immigration" should be allowed in the U.S. I have a couple of questions. Why is it that in a socialist country, like Spain, in 21 months more than 1 million immigrants decided to leave Spain?

Heck, why is it that even graduates in Spain decide to leave to other countries because "there is no work", because "taxes have risen substantially" and the standards of living have lowered?

Why is it that hospitals can only cope with "emergencies" in many European countries?... And should we talk about the violence in those European countries that allowed "unvetted immigration" into those countries?...



Oh and btw, even Spain has deported "some" illegal immigrants.



Unemployment in countries like Spain is 18%-20%, but for immigrants is over 30%.

It is hypocritical to claim "not allowing unvetted immigration" from regions of the world in which extremists have taken control, and claim "if you don't agree with allowing all immigrants into the country and you think illegal immigration is a crime you must be a racist"...

Mexico has a policy of deporting illegal immigrants they catch... Heck, they have been deporting Cubans and other latin Americans to their countries, and the left doesn't say a peep about it... But if the U.S. does it... "you are all racists" and whatever other stupid and false labels many in the far left want to use.

This comes from Al Jazeera so none of you can claim "that's right-wing fake news"...



BTW, here is a rundown on what Mexico does to illegal immigrants...


jwaller | Monday May 8, 2006 12:00 AM

Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.

That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.
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Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:

in the country legally;

have the means to sustain themselves economically;

not destined to be burdens on society;

of economic and social benefit to society;

of good character and have no criminal records; and

contributors to the general well-being of the nation.


The law also ensures that:

immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;

foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;

foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the countrys internal politics;

foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
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humanevents.com...


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posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 01:05 AM
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Can I add a question?

Name ONE country on Earth that allows people to enter AND LIVE THERE without EVER showing a passport, identification or applying through a legal channel or embassy?

Just ONE please.

Then ask yourself, why should the USA be the ONLY country on Earth that allows ILLEGAL immigration

P.s. President Trump SUPPORTS immigration. He doesn't support ILLEGAL immigration.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 01:18 AM
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Currently I still work and live in London and yesterday whilst I was out heading in Camden I happened to glance over at a "Job centre" the queue was out the door and I doubt I could pick out someone that would be classed as "native British".. Immigration is wildly out of control. A vast majority of homeless sleepers in London are Romanian,Bulgarian or Illegally here, I know this from first hand experience dealing with them.

I do not believe anyone has a issue with well vetted people that are skilled that contribute coming into a country for key worker positions, the straw that broke the camels back was the "forced" mass migration of low skilled workers and asylum seekers that played the system coming in their millions.

What has happened is rather than "third world" (I hate that phrase) peoples building up their country over a few generations it seems the west has been and is being pulled down to the standards of these said third world locations, many places in Europe are so far removed from what they once where if you was actually born there you are well within the minority.

The EU has failed on so many fronts I fail to see how the idea is still being spun as viable?.. The "racist" remarks and Nazi tags that are plastered by the regressive left regarding this matter are absurd, there is a massive elephant in the room and people are now starting to bash into it and guess what they are now stating "There is a f#cking massive elephant in the room"...

Spain like most of the EU has turned into a #e hole, I was actually in Spain last week, I see a very hard future there for people, the panic buttons have well and truly been pressed, people are very much aware they have been screwed...



RA



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 01:22 AM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Can I add a question?

Name ONE country on Earth that allows people to enter AND LIVE THERE without EVER showing a passport, identification or applying through a legal channel or embassy?

Just ONE please.



Turning a blind eye to illegal immigration is a massive issue within the EU, the Police are powerless (When they bother to intervene), asylum applications are a massive issue and there was well documented cases of Germany just allowing people in.. Remember the situation last year when Hungry I believe closed it's border and the mass rampage that followed by the migrants??, if they had documents and passports why would the border be closed?..

Ask yourself how did something like the Calais Jungle ever come into existance?, these people where not here legally... Calais is a long way from North Africa and in there time within Europe how many times where their presence unchallenged?,.

just my 2pc

RA
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posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 01:59 AM
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@OP: please don't call Spain's government "socialist", that is the very-very-very last they could be called.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 02:20 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse



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>> From: "David LaBonte"
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>> My wife, Rosemary, wrote a wonderful letter to the editor of the OC Register which, of course, was not printed. So, I decided to "print" it myself by sending it out on the Internet. Pass it along if you feel so inclined. Written in response to a series of letters to the editor in the Orange County Register:
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>> Dear Editor:
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>> So many letter writers have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. Ernie Lujan for one, suggests we should tear down the Statue of Liberty because the people now in question aren't being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports of entry.
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>> Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people like Mr. Lujan why today's American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer. Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.
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>> They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.
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>> They had waved good-bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.
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>> Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them. All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
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>> Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought alongside men whose parents had come straight over from Germany , Italy , France and Japan . None of these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from.
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>> They were Americans fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan. They were defending the United States of America as one people.
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>> When we liberated France, no one in those villages was looking for the French-American or the German-American or the Irish-American. The people of France saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that represented one country.
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>> Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one Red, White and Blue bowl.
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>> And here we are with a new bunch of immigrants who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I'm sorry, that's not what being an American is all about. I believe that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900's deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags. And as for that suggestion about taking down the Statue of Liberty, it happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are voting on the immigration bill. I wouldn't start talking about dismantling the United States just yet.
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>> (signed)
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>> Rosemary LaBonte



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 02:23 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Careful you guys, too many real facts and too much logical thinking is going to trigger the Leftists.
They will only come in here and call us xenophobic and racist because that is all they have to stand on.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 02:38 AM
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All that happened before the spreading of the contagious sickness outbreak of

the decease called *Political Correctness.*



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 03:26 AM
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"Because muhh feels and racism" Herp derp



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 04:15 AM
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The beaches in Spain are awash with illegal African immigrants, they trawl the beaches and streets hawking counterfeit designer products to tourists and holiday-makers. They are referred to as 'Looky looky men' by locals and visitors, because they push their many counterfeit wares into people's faces saying 'looky looky madam, Prada handbags 10 Euro' and 'looky looky mister, Rolex watches only 15 Euro, you look'. The police can't really do anything except confiscate their stuff and let them go, but only if they're quick enough, those African guys spot a cop and run like the wind lol.

Last year I was chatting to a couple of the African 'looky men' and asked how they get by and how/where they live. They told me they sleep on the beach at night in one of the many little rocky beach alcoves, and live/work on the street/beach by day. They spend 18hours+ every day in ridiculous heat walking up and down beaches carrying their stock about their bodies like a one-man-band set up, and live hand-to-mouth every day. If their stuff gets confiscated they still owe their supplier and they have to 'borrow' more stock to pay for it. They said that although it is a hard life trying to live as illegal immigrant in Spain and elsewhere, it is still miles ahead of the no life, the no hope, and the horrors they left behind.

Goodness knows what their eyes have witnessed in their young lives. They were lovely people and deserve better.

God bless them.


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posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 04:55 AM
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Put them in the military for the coming trump war. We are going to need the Mexicans to help with fighting trump's isis war. There are about a dozen different nations and religious groups fighting in Syria now, send illegals for citizenship.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 05:46 AM
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i don't think anyone in their right mind could be for illegal and unvetted immigration. i am for controlled vetted immigration.

we are going to have to do something quickly about the 3rd world, they are multiplying at a astronomical rate while our birthrate is dwindling....IDIOCRACY anyone? if we don't do something we will be sitting in our ivory tower with billions of poor people tearing down our walls. the world could slip into the dark ages.

i propose a one world government with open borders, let the entrepreneurs, investors and ambitious people of the world set about on a reverse migration and go into the third world and build up the infrastructure there. it would be like the pioneer days all over again. endless opportunity.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak




Name ONE country on Earth that allows people to enter AND LIVE THERE without EVER showing a passport, identification or applying through a legal channel or embassy? Just ONE please.


The USA .



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 05:56 AM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Breakthestreak




Name ONE country on Earth that allows people to enter AND LIVE THERE without EVER showing a passport, identification or applying through a legal channel or embassy? Just ONE please.


The USA .


yeah when the pilgrims landed. lmao!!!



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut

So you dont have an illegal immigration problem then . Cool i always thought there were millions of Mexicans working , living without papers . But it seems i was mistaken, carry on .



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 07:04 AM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut

we cannot manage to have a government that has effective leadership for all the people in a single country..

Just how do you think we will manage a one world government that can manage the entire globe with anything resembling effective leadership?



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 08:05 AM
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When I wanted to emigrate to Canada the process took an eternity, numerous checks & enquiries, references and interviews. I was finally told that my job was not in demand in Canada so I had nothing to offer unless I had £500,000 to live independently. You have to bring something to the table if you are moving to another country, not just sponge of the people already living there and their taxes they've paid for years.

As I've mentioned before, I used to be an immigration solicitor back in the 80/90s and used to do sponsorships mainly to bring wives and husbands in from Pakistan. I had a long discussion one time with a man who wanted to bring in a wife for his son I asked him what was wrong with the girls already here? He replied that they were too English. I said well you and your son are English but he said No we're Pakistani

You cannot operate a multi cultural nation when a section of the community don't want to be part of it have no pride in their adopted country and in essence bring their mother countries laws culture beliefs etc with them and continue to live by them
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posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Those that support illegal aliens want cheap slave labor.

They want slaves. They want people that are beholding to them, they want people that they can pay under the table.

They want a sub-class of people for slaves, for slave labor.

Then there are those that want no borders, no nation.

All are idiots.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 08:40 AM
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I would like for everyone who is against an immigration enforcement to have to answer to the families of those raped and murdered by immigrants who've been deported multiple times. Answer to all the families whose credit and finances are completely destroyed by illegals. Those acts could have been prevented with any minimal type of border fence and immigration enforcement. It's just sick.



posted on Feb, 28 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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Trouble with that theory is, that the vast majority of the immigrants don't bloody work! And if they do they do it under the radar or work for "family". Sorry to be so politically incorrect but they have little to offer in most cases and do NOT contribute to the country they have allegedly adopted. In my area almost every big issue seller is a Romanian or Albanian. They come here knowing full well they will be homeless but know also they will be taken care of better than their own country can because we're a soft touch
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