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Slain SEAL’s dad wants answers: ‘Don’t hide behind my son’s death’

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posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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Wait, people getting trained and paid to kill and risk their lives for their government, getting killed in action?

Who would of ever though it possible? I am honestly shocked.
I mean this has to be a first in hundreds of years of U.S history.

It is honestly shocking considering our species has gotten to this point without a government leader sending a single soldier to their potential death for their agendas, and no military mission has ever gone wrong. How has this happened?

OMG the world really is coming to an end......

I urge President Trump to look at his predecessors, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, so on and so forth, and their ability to never get an American or foreign civilian mindlessly killed before it is too late!

We need to end mandatory enlistment before this senseless loss of life becomes the norm.


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posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Mictain

Do you think that how you feel about it, takes away from the mans candour regarding the matter of his sons death? Do you think your opinion of the piece takes away from the points the lost SEALs father makes about the legitimacy of the mission profile?

Do you also think that veteran special forces members, who come to accept that rather than protecting their nation, they were merely sent by bad people, to do bad things, largely to innocent people, are also invalidated in their opinions because of their victimhood, or because they may suffer PTSD? Do you discount their assessments of these things on the basis of their suffering, or do you take note of them?

I am just curious as to how you look at these things, whether you discount their validity because they are being somehow used by the media, or whether you accept the validity of their points, but... hand wave them away because they use the media to get that point across.



Funny that we're hearing so much about this mission, yet in 8 years there was almost no coverage at all of missions undertaken by the Obama administration. That is unless they could use it to make him look good.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Indigo5

They admitted no such thing. They admitted it's possible, not that it happened.



...stop the BS

CENTCOM


A team designated by the operational task force commander has concluded regrettably that civilian non-combatants were likely killed in the midst of a firefight during a raid in Yemen Jan. 29. Casualties may include children.

www.centcom.mil...



Human Rights Watch spoke about the attack with several village residents and the director of a hospital that treated three of the wounded. Witnesses said that five women and nine children were among the civilians killed in the raid.

www.hrw.org...

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posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Mictain

Do you think that how you feel about it, takes away from the mans candour regarding the matter of his sons death? Do you think your opinion of the piece takes away from the points the lost SEALs father makes about the legitimacy of the mission profile?

Do you also think that veteran special forces members, who come to accept that rather than protecting their nation, they were merely sent by bad people, to do bad things, largely to innocent people, are also invalidated in their opinions because of their victimhood, or because they may suffer PTSD? Do you discount their assessments of these things on the basis of their suffering, or do you take note of them?

I am just curious as to how you look at these things, whether you discount their validity because they are being somehow used by the media, or whether you accept the validity of their points, but... hand wave them away because they use the media to get that point across.



Funny that we're hearing so much about this mission, yet in 8 years there was almost no coverage at all of missions undertaken by the Obama administration. That is unless they could use it to make him look good.


Every raid and mission approved by Obama where anyone died was covered extensively...AS IT SHOULD BE...

Funny that folks like yourself suddenly think accountability is not important once Trump took office.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:46 AM
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Trump gave a wonderful tribute to Ryan Owens last night. It was seen around the world, and the reaction of Ryan's mother will be long remembered. There does not seem to be any animosity towards Trump at all.
This whole thread looks like it based on fake news.
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posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Trump gave a wonderful tribute to Ryan Owens last night. It was seen around the world, and the reaction of Ryan' smother will be long remembered. There does not seem to be any animosity towards Trump at all.
This whole thread looks like it based on fake news.


A house divided.

Dad & Mom.

This story has not reached its end.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
Wait, people getting trained and paid to kill and risk their lives for their government, getting killed in action?



That logic is stupid...

By that logic no ignorant, ill informed decisions by the Commander and Chief or any military leadership can EVER be questioned.

These aren't GI Joe dolls for politicians to play with...they are our family.

The concept that their lives are expendable the moment they enlist and thus no one is accountable for the orders they receive is a sick argument.
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posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5


Every raid and mission approved by Obama where anyone died was covered extensively...AS IT SHOULD BE...

Funny that folks like yourself suddenly think accountability is not important once Trump took office.


BS. The one time it happened (Benghazi), the media DEFENDED Obama from charges of incompetence. In any other case they just didnt report it. You think no soldiers died under Obama? lol....
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posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Indigo5


Every raid and mission approved by Obama where anyone died was covered extensively...AS IT SHOULD BE...

Funny that folks like yourself suddenly think accountability is not important once Trump took office.


BS. The one time it happened (Benghazi), the media DEFENDED Obama from charges of incompetence. In any other case they just didnt report it. You think no soldiers died under Obama? lol....


Behngazi wasn't a Spec Ops chosen and approved by Pres. Obama? and yes Soldiers died under Pres. Obama..

As far as Spec. Ops? President Obama treated Spec Ops with enormous respect and care. This Ryan Owens who died at Trumps dinner-time "go"? He had previously met Obama in the WH, Played with Obama's dog in the oval office. Pres. Obama wanted to know the people he sent into harms way, because that made him think twice before giving a "go".



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 10:59 AM
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The US has drones that can kill from thousands of miles away like a computer game. No need to send any soldiers into combat. Period.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:00 AM
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The father, poor guy, needs to shut up. His son VOLUNTEERED for this mission.

End of story.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Indigo5


Every raid and mission approved by Obama where anyone died was covered extensively...AS IT SHOULD BE...

Funny that folks like yourself suddenly think accountability is not important once Trump took office.


BS. The one time it happened (Benghazi), the media DEFENDED Obama from charges of incompetence. In any other case they just didnt report it. You think no soldiers died under Obama? lol....


Behngazi wasn't a Spec Ops chosen and approved by Pres. Obama? and yes Soldiers died under Pres. Obama..

As far as Spec. Ops? President Obama treated Spec Ops with enormous respect and care. This Ryan Owens who died at Trumps dinner-time "go"? He had previously met Obama in the WH, Played with Obama's dog in the oval office. Pres. Obama wanted to know the people he sent into harms way, because that made him think twice before giving a "go".


Obama has a lot to contemplate then for the rest of his life, given the thousands of lives lost due to his needless actions in the middle east. I wonder how many American lives were lost to weapons Obama gave to so called 'moderates'?



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Trump gave a wonderful tribute to Ryan Owens last night. It was seen around the world, and the reaction of Ryan's mother will be long remembered. There does not seem to be any animosity towards Trump at all.


Strange how you conflate a widows grief with supporting Trump?
Strike that...Just what I would expect...



This whole thread looks like it based on fake news.


Please provide evidence showing that Ryan Owens father did not make the public statements he made.

Absent that...You are clearly lying again.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: WTAtennisfan


The US has drones that can kill from thousands of miles away like a computer game. No need to send any soldiers into combat. Period.


drone can't collect the intel stored in devices, in fact they would more than likely make that intel irretrievable. or you would have to send in troops to get it afterwards, but then you have to realize the enemy would also be moving in.

the mission wasn't just about popping enemy targets, it was also a intel gathering one.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Did you see the words might and may?

Maybe you need to look them up.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: Tempter
The father, poor guy, needs to shut up.


How many children have you lost in the Military?

Someone needs to "shut up"...but not Owens father..



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Indigo5

Did you see the words might and may?

Maybe you need to look them up.


Maybe you should read?
CENTCOM


A team designated by the operational task force commander has concluded regrettably that civilian non-combatants were likely killed in the midst of a firefight during a raid in Yemen Jan. 29. Casualties may include children.

www.centcom.mil...



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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Qaeda warriors are not afraid of death. The US should not use ground forces to fight them.

www.aljazeera.com...



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Actually, its perfectly possible for a small remote robotic device to be sent in to a given location, to act as a relay between a controlling computer system, and a system you want to hack. In fact, that would be a rather nifty solution, involving little risk to an operator, but still capable of getting data from a terminal, without a single shot being fired.



posted on Mar, 1 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

And it can hack into written journals ... oh wait no it can't. Oops.



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