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Hyper-Tribalism as our most assured route to De-Evolutionary Extinction

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posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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Hyper-Tribalism as our most assured route to De-Evolutionary Extinction

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." -MLK

I know a lot of people around here have been conveying the impression that my little war with the "SJW's" style 'liberal' Identity Politics must mean I'm some kind of conservative. The truth is, I'm an anti-Tribalist hardcase, so my beef with them is inherent as that's the very essence of Identity Politics. Here we'll do a crash course review of classical hyper-tribalism models, my "Hyper Tribalist Mind Control" concept, and how the various rising tides of hyper-tribalism we're seeing are the makings of our own undoing in the face of the advent of "Artificial General Intelligence".

BREAKING NEWS: Everyone is 'Racist'!

All "racism" even is... is tribalism. It's pretty cut and dry actually. That's means EVERYONE is 'racist', as humans are genetically programmed to be tribalistic.

Take professional sports, the fanbases (my city state can beat up your city state). If you're into all that you're a de facto 'racist'. On the issue of sports tribalism, there could be no better example than football hooligans:


Now apply this logic across other various social strata, and in my view we just keep finding more of the same.

Nationalism, and now it's new counter-part "Globalism"... equals Tribalism.

Sexism & Genderism... equals Tribalism.

Religions and their sectarianism... equals Tribalism.

Ethnicity... equals Tribalism.

Music genre fanboy'ism... equals Tribalism.

Sports team obsessionism... equals Tribalism.

On and on it goes, Culturism in general is Tribalism.

Now Tribalism at its core isn't inherently bad. Tribalism after all is encoded in our DNA. It's how we rose up out of the muck, off the tree limbs, and into cities.

Yet in the age of industry and mass communications we've seen what it tends to end up leading to: Colonialism, Communism, Fascism, Nazism, Islamofascism, world wars, "cold" wars, segregation, Holocaust, civil wars, sectarian conflicts, oppression, bigotry, division, domination, and ...football hooliganism!

In the "Information Age" we're not seeing any difference other than an ever increasing 'Diffusion of Tribalism' so perverse we're witnessing the rapid rise of rabid "Hyper-Tribalism".

To me "Hyper-Tribalism" is what happens when ideologies start integrating multiple mass scale social group identities into one 'super identity'. In my view, its tantamount to the weaponization of innate human Groupthink. As such, it represents the truest most hardcore 'mind control' I know about.

The following video ("China Hell March") is a priceless example of 'Militaristic Tribalism':

Note they aren't even hardly goosestepping. Their march isn't much unlike our troops do here in the USA.

What people need to realize is that Hyper-Tribalism is the socialistic version of wide-split goose stepping Militaristic Tribalism.

Just look at how crazy people can go in a simple argument about Evolution and Creationism. That involves religious identity, although it's a much smaller aspect of the realm. I've never heard about someone killing someone merely over that debate.

Now lock an Christian in the same room with an Atheist, with posters of each worldview all over the walls and nothing else but a bottle of whiskey... and clear the room!

So when political ideologies integrate religious group identities into their super identity construct, that's when things start getting real ugly.

Don't forget, that political or even otherwise secular cultural ideologies as their own distinct constructs are already tribalist, and when you get statist cult of personality dynamics into the mix here alone outcomes paralleling religious fundamentalism are readily achievable in human populations.



Back in 'my' original "IIB" days, on Myspace, is when I first recall realizing the dangers of Hyper-Tribalism. Slamming Bush's wars, police militarism and so on was my daily soup & salad in those days in the "Shock & Awe: State of the World Address" blog. I'd get all kinds of messages from pissed off people about all the crazy stuff I entertained & talked about in those days.

This one night some pissed of Bush supporter messaged me ranting about how "God" put Bush into power, and that I was doing the devil's work or something along those lines for blasting Bush's evil all the time. Of course my comeback was 'if that's true then God put Stalin & Hitler into power'.

But it got me thinking, where I realized that when you mix religion into politics then to criticize the politician deep down becomes one in the same as criticizing the religion. t added right up as, in the post-9/11 era things immediately shifted into this paradigm where if you criticized Bush's war then that was un-patriotic which therefore goes against nationalism bias, and it was already obvious with the Republican crowd that in their play on things conservatism equaled nationalism. Now add in the Christian Conservative dynamics and religion sealed the deal.

When essentially tens of millions of "Land of the Free" do gooder Christian Bible thumping folks start rationalizing, and then justifying, and then rabidly defending mass scale murder ala war criminality, to me it becomes pretty obvious there's something psychosomatic that the bottom of which needs to be gotten to.

The only way it could be taken further, I surmised, was with overt racism.
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posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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Studying propaganda and 'mind control' techniques was always one of my core studies, and it became completely obvious to me that this 'Hyper-Tribalism Complex' concept was the secret to the Nazi mind control the so rapidly turned them into the SS's snitch society, rabid brutal imperialism, and the Holocaust.

I went on to write about all this , including this 2007 piece I posted here in ATS:

Neoconservative (Nazi) Mind Control was used by Bush
The best past example would be the way the Nazi's converged different social mindset biases into one solid construct. What they did was they turned the Nazi political party, German Nationalism, Race and Religion into one single concept / mindset. That meant, to question something about one level of social group was to question everything. For example, if you questioned the Nazi party itself it meant, in the minds of those who had been indoctrinated / brainwashed, that you were also questioning / attacking the Race and the Religion and the Nation and so on.


Also pause for a moment and consider Islam of the Sharia Law variety. This "Islam" isn't merely a religion like Buddhism. It's theocracy 'of legend' as they say. Sharia "Law" 's a legal doctrine for one thing. When assessed in practice, it's a religion that is openly a political ideology. This "caliphate" we're hearing so much about in recent years, the style that ISIS and Al Qaeda are pursuing are hyper-masculine militaristic hegemonic empires. For Arabs, it tends to be part of their racial identity. A common description that few would argue with is its a "political-social ideology". To me that's another perfect example of a Hyper-Tribalist identity complex.

Here in the US, back in 2008, with Obama on his way in I was already lamenting that race would become more of a factor in taking the Neocon's Identity Politick games the next level. I was disgusted when I started seeing the Democrat's and liberal media thrw the race card on any and all criticisms of Obama's agenda's. I tuned out of partisan politics after that, so last year when I finally tuned back in I was floored by all this "PC" stuff. Although militarism was ratcheted down in tone, the Democrat's still managed to take things beyond the call of duty with this Hyper-Traibalism stuff.

From 2017:

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Social Group Warfare (SGW)
Where in the past the concept of Class Warfare has been a major factor in estimating social strife, today's Social Engineering & Social Media enhanced Progressive Politics has taken as the foundation of its new platform Identity Politics. Like a page right out of Nazi Germany, social group identity obsessionism is the new norm, where inclusion is supposedly ambition, but with this level of mass social group convergence (mind control) increasingly its subjects take on the view of "either you're with us or you're against us". Where the Nazi's converged the nationalistic & ethnic & racial & state & party identities as one into their pseudo-religious mind control ideology, todays new progressives have converged globalism & multiculturalism & racialism & state & party & genderism as one into their pseudo-religious mind control ideology. Note here mere Nationalism wasn't good enough (it had to be Globalism), nor was mere Sexism (it had to be the next best thing Genderism). The warfare bit enhanced by conspiracy theories such as the "Patriarchy" (where their common man [if straight cis white males anyways] are in on the conspiracy of "oppression" against all others), and the them vs. all of us mentality (as seen in Nazi Germany with the Jews). Class struggle is part of the mindset, although it's ranked at the bottom of their 'Oppression Scale' (that way it includes the commoners in their 'Oppressor Model') that way the rationale of ever poor straight white males are somehow in on the elitist conspiracy against them. The general model is based on "Critical Race Theory" (CRT), although is better understood in terms of their newer "Progressive Stack". As a whole, SGW is the CW model for the 21st Century, that is effectively designed to pit not just 'brother versus brother', but female vs. male, trans vs. cis, gay vs. straight, minorities vs majority, and so on, where class is of mind but its been skewed against any whom might happen to be the same skin color as the majority of the most wealthy (as if it does them a damn bit of good).


Now I've already written many pieces dealing with all this "PC" stuff, so that's not meant to be my obsession in this piece. Yet it's critical to look at this thing and the threat it poses politically, socially and existentially.

Essentially entirely based on the perception of oppression (by their fellow commoners that is), this new PC liberal crowd has taken on the view in but its first election loss that everybody that doesn't think like them are all Hitlerian "Fascists". About fascism, unless we're having a discussion of Classical Fascism, that is the merger of state and corporate power (which the Democrat party embodies every bit as much as the Republican party), then to me 'fascism' is but a discussion of brutality & bigotry in political terms which therefore embodies totalitarianism.

So now in less than a decade of this new 'liberal' Identity Politics, based merely on perception of oppression, we've been witnessing supposed do gooder tree hugging anti-war anti-corporatist liberal types running around committing open hate crime atrocities, rabid favor of statist & corporatist & academic censorship, the "Deep State" trouncing over democracy, not to mention the overt justification and defense of mass scale murder militarism ala the Syrian Conflict. That past part is a real mind bender, as all the blame is being put on Russia for a civil war "we" started.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 02:56 PM
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Now after years of the race card, race baiting and anti-white oppression here at home, we are beginning to see the rise of white race identity counter-movements. When you look at how far these "PC" people have taken things, how much violence they've been openly committing in its cause, and the counter current is still but marginal, it goes to show that their fellow commoners by and large being the racist bigots so as they claim was a myth.

Yet the longer and harder they push on with it all the more hopelessly inevitable a true mass scale white nationalist movement they will get, and the more hardcore white supremacist it will become the longer such a 'war' could rage on. This is human nature stuff folks.

Ever notice how modern liberals that are into this PC stuff have the tendency to ratta tat tat off the following line against people they disagree with: "racist, sexist, Islamophobe, Homophobe mysoginistic bigot!"? This is the most perfect outward example of the Hyper-Tribalist complex I can think of.

So you could imagine my horror when I saw Hillary Clinton's "Alt-Right Speech" last year, where she was overtly setting the liberal proapganda tone as being all about plastering any and all opposition to her, the Democrat party and the "SJW" crowd she was unabashedly appealing to as all being "white nationalists". Now most may chock this up as being mere smear campaign tactics, but when you look at the whole Identity Political game the DNC Establishment has been playing so hard at, to me I smell direct attempts at herding white anti-minority racist types into their opposition camp.

My immediate perception of the specter this big turd infested punchbowl we're all staring down into, was that while we have everybody at war with everybody over every Hyper-Tribalist notion under the outer space, we already have serious problems in the immediately coming decades that threaten to wipe us out as a species.


Where a lot of people put their existential anxieties on things like climate change, for over a decade now mine has been on the "Age of Transitions".

This Age of Transitions represents multiple sea changes in technological shifts, all converging simultaneously, where each tech front itself represents potentially cataclysmic shifts in global human affairs and longevity as a species. Them all more or less hitting the tipping point at the same time is referred to as the "Technological Singularity". To scores of its advocates, its already a religion. And in upper echelon technocrat circles, such as all across Silicon Valley and amongst countless other "Power Elite" types, they've been working feverishly in these pursuits.

The way it's all going down is exceedingly disastrous for multiple reasons. One is how the whole agenda has been going on full speed a. with nitrous oxide, while the debate has been kept out of the public eye in any perspective that ensures that we as a species take this stuff seriously and have true mass debate on these most complex matters. With just the AI / AGI paradigm alone (think "Skynet"), this hasteful approach is insane of the suicidal variety. Next, what's our society has been amounting to in the young age of social media proves (with particular emphasis on this Hyper-Tribalism stuff) we're nowhere yet evolved enough as a species for this age of the kind of class warfare sure to be unleashed by this new 'age of human augmentation'.

And dovetailing from this whole Hyper-Tribalist social media ordeal comes perhaps the surest way our Technocrat masters are dooming us with their god play. Consider the scifi classic, "iRobot", where the AGI + robots grid set up to safeguard us, after some period of observation decides the primary objective is we need protection from ourselves.

And now look at what's been going on all across the Western World, the birthplace of the Renaissance and free societies of all places.

What's "it" going to "think"? The real bitch of it is is "it" already exists for all extensive purposes. Since this is Deep Technocrat State riding in on the military, there's no telling how far along this 'Skynet' stuff really is.

Now when you see the tech giants like Google all combined are dumping billions of dollars into "social justice" fronts, factor in this mass diversion scheme laid out herein, and their true agenda should become obvious. There's much to be said there, but that will require subsequent chapter(s).

In the meantime, it's long past time we as species finally have a serious discussion about this DNA based Hyper-Tribalism snafu we all find ourselves in as a species. It's time we actually learn from history where this has played so much of a role in essentially all of our mass scale devastation and / or systematic systemic oppression. Sure, greed and power obsession drives the oligarchs whom divide to conquer us, at the heart of the the games they play to drive us into being collaborators in their wicked evil can always be found Hyper-Tribalism. The "Social Justice" people have been trying to overcome the effects of, the history of tribalism. Yet in their attempts in doing so, without acknowledging these inherent genetic dynamics that are at the core of our species, they have failed miserably. Creating a new brand of even more sophisticated brand of Hyper-Tribalism than everything before it is a movement whose cause is dead on arrival.

The time to come to terms with these aspects of our nature in order to have any semblance of a chance of consciously over-coming it is long past due. Millions die brutal deaths every decade over Hyper-Tribalism, with millions of people cheer-leading the assailants every time, every where. We must now learn from our history, because unless we do we're guaranteed the darkest century that our species has ever faced whether or not some climate disaster or super volcano erupts. Unlike with those things, which we cannot simply over think and be civil towards one another to prevent, with Hyper-Tribalism we can.

We need not more Alt-Right's and CTRL-Left's. We need an "alt/alt". I don't know all the solutions, but I have offered one to this Hyper-Tribalism disaster. "Socio-Agnosticism" is what I've been living by ever since I figured all this out. It could be a start. Whatever's going to happen, we need to all discuss it together...

Hyper-Tribalism is our most assured route to De-Evolutionary Extinction
edit on 26-2-2017 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The only real solution to ending racism among ourselves is to have an extraterrestrial enemy.

By having such enemy, only then will humans realize that we are all alike.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I may as well throw into the mix one that you missed ...Bankism ="Hyper-Tribalism". Well you may have it there but I am just marking to get back to ...



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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Good topic........You are absolutely 100% correct.

The Modern SJW has confused simple human "Tribalism" with overt "Racism"....

It is Not.

In fact, the most "Racist" (Tribalist) humans on Earth are the Africans, they ALL hate each other.

It was only the other day, news appeared that the Pygmies and Bantu of the Congo, have had a ceasefire......after decades of killing each other.........Why? Because they are different, and Hate each other........that is their culture.

Humans are social, and seem to crave to be with like minded, like looking other humans.........

Which, when you really analyse it, is exactly the same as every animal group on our wonderful planet..

All animals want to be with their own species.....All animals are tribalist, all animals are "racist"?

Humans, are Animals........

And Earth is an amazing place.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot to include my talking point that goes like this:

'Ever notice how modern liberals that are into this PC stuff have the tendency to ratta tat tat off the following line against people they disagree with: "racist, sexist, Islamophobe, Homophobe mysoginistic bigot!"? This is the most perfect outward example of the Hyper-Tribalist complex I can think of.'



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Question ....Have you looked into Tragedy and Hope and if so how does that fit into your mix ? As a introduction to the T&H history

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posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 04:25 PM
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I've heard of it a bunch of times. Haven't read.


Civilisations tend to evolve through a sequence of phases as follows:

Mixture
Gestation
Expansion
Conflict
Universal Empire
Decay
Invasion


en.wikipedia.org...

Right now it seems we're in the mishmash point between Universal Empire / Decay / Invasion. It would help explain the desperation we're seeing by the 'Ruling Establishment'.

Then again, it could be argued they're the ones that invaded US already. The invasion could also be argued as being this new PC brand of Cultural Marxism. As well as what's happening with the Technocrat takeover. Which brings us back to the 'Ruling Establishment' (Corporatocracy).



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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The standard model on how civilizations evolve is mute . Take the time and spend listening to the YT podcast to get a flavor of the book's content . The term that money makes the world go around is not a myth ,especially today .



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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Great post. Agree that the manufactured divisions are killing us but...also the destruction of family, which is the first unit of societal organization, and both the maniacal growth of bureaucracy in tandem with the growing unwillingness to be governed or - in other words - putting individual needs a. of the overall success/survival of our culture/way of life. There has to be a balance.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The standard model on how civilizations evolve is mute . Take the time and spend listening to the YT podcast to get a flavor of the book's content . The term that money makes the world go around is not a myth ,especially today .


How is it mute in this discussion?

Banksterism doesn't much apply above.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 09:09 PM
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posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 09:18 PM
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How is it mute in this discussion?
The standard model would not matter if bankers were choosing which direction they wanted a society to move using the Hegelian dialect principal . Rothschild said himself that if you have him the power over the money in a country that it didn't matter who ran the Govt. Its the bankers that create wars buy manipulating a country's currency ...boom and busts ...



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 10:33 PM
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I tell ya, I normally don't like to post someone so "despicable" as a source, but what he says here is quite fitting for the world of today. m.youtube.com...



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 10:44 PM
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I'm not against tribalism. I understand and once agreed with you. But Tribalism allows us to come together and labor freely for the sake of the tribe, no coercion needed. The question is the same for the individual, is the goals of the tribe for the greater good or greater evil.

Ethnocentrism best strategy

This is a link talking about how ethnocentrism wins out. Sometimes humanitarianism wins out for a while. If everyone is humanitarian its the best outcome for everyone. If there is more space to grow humanitarianism can hold the majority. Once space saturation occurs Ethnocentrism wins out because Ethnocentrist will take advantage of humanitarians.

This means if a humanitarian culture encounters ethnocentrist the ethnocentrist will out populate and out play the humanitarians, this is and will continue to play out in real time in Europe.

This means if an ethnocentrist culture exist the best way for you and your culture to survive is to become ethnocentrist.
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posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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Ethnocentrism isn't Hyper-Tribalism.




posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The only real solution to ending racism among ourselves is to have an extraterrestrial enemy.

By having such enemy, only then will humanos realize that we are all alike.
Heh, I have always said if that's what it takes we might as well jack it up and give it a kick because it's doubtful there'd be anything left of humanity to learn anything. That's just being realistic. People act as though if such an event we're to occur, we'd be on the "victorious end." Somehow, I think that leans towards naivete.
I get what you're saying, but....

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posted on Feb, 27 2017 @ 05:25 AM
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How to solve this, a social experiment, one year living under communism, followed by one year of living under democracy, followed by one year of living under fascism and one year of living under anarchy.




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