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It is a good thing Russia and America are allies.

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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
Another serial Troll thread with minimal thought and no basis in reality.

Ugh, what is ATS becoming?


What really pisses me off about this site is that when someone does a thread that you dont like you attack the OP not the information.

If you dont like it, research and prove him wrong, You're the one that came on here to Troll him. I've noticed that a lot, instead of debating an argument people just attack , Shill, troll, no basis in reality. Not everyone lives in your bubble.

Its refreshing coming on here and not seeing Trump on, but yet there's still attacks.

Anyways the world knows us Aussies will kick all your asses! xx
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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: muSSang

Argue what? The OP didn't even put up a point. Just said

Good thing Russia and America are alies.

Then in the thread it said Russia's military is second to none and listed stuff. Cool.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Prove him wrong.....
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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: muSSang

America has an army. It has a navy. We also have an airforce.

We have jets, we got boats, all kinds of them.

We got food for the troops to eat.

Good thing we have friends.

BOOOOMMMM!



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

So does Cuba, a bit of common sense goes along way.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: RAY1990

This is correct, Napoleon also lost the creme of his army (freezing to death in the Russian winter not killed in battle) which is perhaps the only real reason he was eventually defeated at waterloo in a much later campaign by British and Prussian forces, of course the same could also be said as you point out for Hitler's operation Barbarossa, the main reason the German advance ground to a halt was the technical short falling's of there tank's in the snow, there track's were simply too narrow.

I would argue that the Allied bombing campaign was more effective than the Russian counter offencive (if taken alone that is), had we not bombed the Nazi's factory's and kept them on the defensive in the west WHILE supplying the Russian's then the German's could very well have defeated the Russian's even after there initial set back from the Russian counter offensive.

The german's were quick to learn the lesson of the sloped armor on the T34 and applied it to there own superior tank's, they were too slow in the uptake of there STG44 because Hitler did not like the gun (prat that he was) or the Russian army human wave attack's would have totally failed.

The war was only won though by the concerted effort and sacrifice of all the Allies, Russian's whom paid the most in lives sacrificed of all members of the anti NAZI alliance most definitely included but then when the Commissar is holding a PPS to your back and if you with no gun should decide to run away form the heavily armed German's he would shoot you anyway you have to ask how many of those Russian's that died there died at the hand's of there own countrymen simply because they were not lemming's and did not want to run un armed into a german machine gunners sight's, it is awfully easy to be a patriot when the alternative is death anyway.

(that sloped armor was a US invention as well but somehow had been forgotten by the time of WW2, american civil war era warship many here will know very well).

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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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ASKV rifles are sick. en.wikipedia.org...

2S35 artillery are sick. en.wikipedia.org...

PAK FA fighter jets are sick. en.wikipedia.org...

Also, unlike in the US where defense industry is not state owned, in Russia defense industry is state owned, so no problem with funding since the government creates its own funds.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: muSSang

Ya got me. From now on I won't call out the same person who makes a new account every couple of hours to put up nothing threads with no substance.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: fandancego
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Hitler and Napoleon were crushed by Russia.

Actually it was the weather that gave Russia those victories.
edit on 0460000003128America/ChicagoFri, 24 Feb 2017 18:07:31 -06002010 by buster2010 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:06 PM
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Va reply to: fandancego
But we're not.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Napoleons army was to far East and the supply line was stretched, he did his best to draw the Russian army out into conflict, but because of numerous invasions the Russians developed the strategy of retreating that far back that any attacker cannot withstand the lack of supplies.

Napoleon didn't lose, but he didn't win either. Everyone thinks Moscow is the prize were in fact its the temptation trap.



rps. Napoleon tried once more to engage the Russian army for a decisive action at the Battle of Maloyaroslavets. Despite holding a superior position, the Russians retreated following a sharp engagement, confirming that the Russians would not commit themselves to a pitched battle.[17] His troops exhausted, with few rations, no winter clothing, and his remaining horses in poor condition, Napoleon was forced to retreat. He hoped to reach supplies at Smolensk and later at Vilnius. In the weeks that followed the Grande Army starved and suffered from the onset of the Russian Winter.


Its a known strategy used by Russia the biggest misconception is people think "it was the Russian winter that defeated Napoleon and Hitler where in fact it was the vast land they had to traverse to get to the Russian army.
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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: fandancego

I think ally is a strong word.

Frenemy is a better way of putting it.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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Russia cant even beat the usa in a hockey game son.

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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:10 PM
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a reply to: muSSang

The imperial Russian's used a burned earth policy or Napoleon could have weathered even that, yes his supply line's were stretched and logistic's is often the weakest part of any army so good call on that point.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: fandancego
ASKV rifles are sick. en.wikipedia.org...

2S35 artillery are sick. en.wikipedia.org...

PAK FA fighter jets are sick. en.wikipedia.org...

Also, unlike in the US where defense industry is not state owned, in Russia defense industry is state owned, so no problem with funding since the government creates its own funds.


Duuuuuude. That's sick bro.
What are you 12?
How is this thread allowed to continue to exist? It doesn't meet the rules at all.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: fandancego

It was a necessity for Russia to ally with the US because China will one day try to take control of the Russian Far East. There was a thread about it where the CCP openly stated via their media mouth piece that one day they will declare war against Russia to take control of Siberia which is rich in resources.
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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Russia and America are allies against jihadists. That's an alliance. An alliance is comprised of parties who fight a common enemy and who do not fight each other. USSR and America were allies in WW2.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Russia deports illegals. There is no political correctness in Russia. There are no Chinese illegals in Russia.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Russia deports illegals. There is no political correctness in Russia. There are no Chinese illegals in Russia.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: fandancego

I don't mean illegals, I mean the Chinese PLA attacking Russia.

here's the thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


edit on 2/24/2017 by starwarsisreal because: (no reason given)




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