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Daniel 9 & the Revelation 12 star sign

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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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Daniel 9:24-27 is a futurist prophecy related to the antichrist, false prophet and Apollyon where the 'anointed one' is the 'antichrist' fulfilling prophecy. With our foundation in Daniel 9, we can map out the 10 year tribulation and Revelation with a good amount of certainty (and also when the antichrist gets his mortal . wound.



Daniel 9
24 “Seventy '7's are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy.

25 Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the call to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a ruler, there shall be seven '7's. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.

Compare the KJV, which describes the building of the 'wall' (which should ring a bell with US readers) 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.

27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”


Verse 25's 'call to restore and build Jerusalem' is none other than the action celebrated in the Israeli national holiday 'Jerusalem Day', commemorating June 7, 1967 (occurred during the 6 day war) (28 Iyyar, 5727) en.wikipedia.org...

the 7 '7's are 49 years, the 62 'weeks' are literal weeks.
Add 49 years to June 7, 1967 / 28 Iyyar, 5727 to get to dusk June 4, 2016 (28 Iyyar, 5776) or June 7, 2016.

3 items of interest happened on June 7, 2016
- Netanyahu meets with Putin. www.jpost.com...
- Israel's chief rabbi called for the creation of the 3rd Temple on TV www.timesofisrael.com...
- Trump became the official Republican candidate for US president with the last primary on June 7, 2016.
(Putin = modern day Cyrus/ Trump = modern day Zerubabbel puppet governor, both tasked with rebuilding the new temple)

After 62 weeks, one of these 3 (4?) will be 'cut off' (on the Hebrew calendar, dusk Aug 12, 2017 or the solar calendar, Aug 15, 2017). This is the
'mortal . wound' event referred to in Revelation 13:3. If the assassination 'hype' is to be believed, this person will be Trump.

At the end of 69 weeks, this same person will confirm the Mosaic covenant (read every 7 years - where people get the notion of a '7 year tribulation') - from the dusk June 4, 2016 end of 49 years (God's calendar) add 69 weeks to get to Yom Kippur, Sept 30, 2017, when the Mosaic covenant is read. www.timeanddate.com...

Now let's switch gears back to the star sign of Rev 12:1-2 which occurs Sept 23, 2017
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her . a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

let's go to Acts 1 now

Acts 1



In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach, 2 until the day when he was taken up, after he had given commands through the Holy Spirit to the apostles whom he had chosen.

3 He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God. 4 And while staying with them he ordered them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, “you heard from me; 5 for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” 6 So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?”

7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” 9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.


Revelation 12



And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her . a crown of twelve stars. 2 She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. 3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven .s and ten horns, and on his .s seven diadems. 4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it. 5 She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, 6 and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which she is to be nourished for 1,260 days.


In the 1st passage, Jesus has just died and resurrected, then stays around for 40 days, then ascends into heaven.

In the 2nd passage, the sign appears (Sept 23, 2017) and the child is caught up to God/ 'ascends into heaven'.

So, what happens 40 days prior to Sept. 23, 2017 (3 Tishri 5777)? 40 days prior to this is... August 15, 2017 (23 Av 5777)

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the call to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a ruler, there shall be seven '7's. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time.
26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing. And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.

The 'call to restore Jerusalem' is commemorated as 'Jerusalem Day', the origin of which is June 7, 1967 (28 Iyyar 5727). The 7 '7's are 49 years. The 62 weeks are literally 62 weeks.
49 Hebrew calendar years takes us to dusk June 4, 2016 (28 Iyyar 5776)
49 solar years gives us June 7, 2016. After 62 weeks, the anointed one is 'cut off'. For the solar calendar, the end of 62 weeks from June 7, 2016 is August 15, 2017.
For the Hebrew calendar, the implication is that the anointed one is killed ('cut off') 62 weeks later on dusk Aug. 12, 2017. 3 days dead then resurrected would then take us to Aug 15, 2017 again.

So, right here we have the 'anointed one' (antichrist) cut off (and resurrected) 40 days before the star sign occurring Sept. 23, 2017.




posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: jcrash

So Trump will be assassinated in August?
And all this is in the bible?

Trump? In the bible. The most distributed book of all time. Trump

HaHaHaHa ok seems legit

#NeverReadAbookWithTrumpInIt

-ThoughtIsMadness



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: ThoughtIsMadness
a reply to: jcrash

So Trump will be assassinated in August?
And all this is in the bible?

Trump? In the bible. The most distributed book of all time. Trump

HaHaHaHa ok seems legit

#NeverReadAbookWithTrumpInIt

-ThoughtIsMadness



I'm sure there were people who thought it was crazy that Mary and Joseph's kid was in the prophecy too. In fact, some people thought it was so crazy, they remained Jewish.

The Muslims would say that some people thought it was so crazy that God would anoint another prophet in the mold of the OT prophets that they refuse to recognize Mohammad. So that's how we get Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

Someday, maybe soon, maybe not, there will be a really bad man who puts the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot to shame. The worst guy ever, he will be, and right up until hindsight hits, people won't really believe he's that guy that was mentioned in the prophecy. In fact, most of the world will be following right along with him.

There will be these two other dudes too who will blatantly and publicly tell everyone exactly who he is, and they'll be even more hated than Limbaugh is today. And no one will believe that they're mentioned in the Bible either, not until hindsight hits.
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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: ThoughtIsMadness

An assassination attempt. He doesn't die. (Or it is symbolic, as in, 'he is removed from office', but I would interpret this fairly literally.)

Also, it could be someone else, but he seems to be the leading candidate.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: jcrash
So people have stopped calculating the 70 years from 1948? Just as well, really, because we were beginning to run out of time for things to happen. According to one theory, the tribulation should have started happening a couple of years ago. Were you not taking that line yourself, in some of your older threads?



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: jcrash
a reply to: ThoughtIsMadness

An assassination attempt. He doesn't die. (Or it is symbolic, as in, 'he is removed from office', but I would interpret this fairly literally.)

Also, it could be someone else, but he seems to be the leading candidate.


I sincerely doubt Trump is the anti-Christ in waiting. He doesn't have that kind of charisma.

I know it's seductive to look at the person you find most loathsome in a position of power and think they might be the one because then you can feel good that you aren't being deceived. Anti-Christ is also a person able to decieve even the very elect if it were possible, but the way that verse is phrased makes it seem like he achieves his ends through charisma, not sheer brute force, in the beginning.

Honestly, Obama came closer to that, but even he fell short. After he was elected, his charisma failed to keep his election day popularity going.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: DISRAELI

there is no way to really address how it plays out until we get the data to understand it. Yes, I was taking that line before, but now I am fairly confident in how the general structure is laid out. If you want to hash it out, I will, but I doubt you have an open mind for this kind of thing.

As to 'people' stopping calculating 70 years, that aspect is still in play. The 70th '7' is the start of the 7 year Mosaic covenant; 7 referring to either the Shavua (7 weeks leading up to Shavuot) or 7 meaning the 7th month, Tishri. Tishri 10 being when the Mosaic covenant would be read.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 02:02 PM
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Prophesy is so ambiguous ... Paul said that had they known they would not have crucified the Lord of glory . They (TPTB) couldn't figure it out and Jesus's apostles didn't have a clue either .They believed that He was the promised Messiah but didn't have a clue what that even meant .Now I am not saying that prophecy has no value .some of it may even have a dual fulfillment that spans millennial's because we don't know . God plays His cards very close to His chest .

I rather like Mike Heisers take on The Rev. 12 sign .




posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: jcrash
You know my view, that ALL date calculation is barking up the wrong tree, so I'm not going to get myself entangled in the details.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: DISRAELI

how are Jews going to accept a messiah who doesn't fulfill prophecy? this is how that occurs.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 02:47 PM
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Trump is the anti-Christ. Trump is Hitler. Witches are cursing Trump.

ATS is on a roll lately. Keep up the entertainment!
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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: jcrash
a reply to: DISRAELI

how are Jews going to accept a messiah who doesn't fulfill prophecy? this is how that occurs.


They already failed to accept Him once. He also fulfilled prophecy then.

We are told that this time when he comes back there will be no more doubts.

But now you seem to be confusing the anti-Christ with the real thing. Trump is neither just like Obama was neither.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: jcrash




how are Jews going to accept a messiah who doesn't fulfill prophecy? this is how that occurs.
Well ,history tells us that there were lots of Jews that did . 5000 at once in the book of acts .There are still to this day Jews accepting Jesus as their messiah . They are the ones that don't impose the traditional expectations of the messiah on the text of the scriptures . Jesus told the Jews of His day that their traditions made the law of God of none effect .Those traditions got codified in 100/200 AD into what is known as the Jewish Talmud ...




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