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posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Perfectenemy

I think this is the aircraft pic to which you are referring:


4plebs post containing the above image.

Perhaps this is what is being distracted from?


I'm clueless as to what that pic is trying to relay, can you shed some light on it and as to why someone or some group would want to distract people from it?




posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3
a reply to: jidnum

That's what makes it a fun thought, its fictional but that doesn't make it not fun to imagine and discuss.


Well this thread is to discuss facts not fallacy.

So far what we know is, people said something happened, nobody has proof of any of it happening. just hearsay.


I think people are allowed to say what they saw and also comment on what others said they saw unless I'm mistaken?


Sure, but so far nothing has been proven to be fact. Just a bunch of nonsense. Even after someone came forward and admitted to faking the picture and trickling in pieces people still want to believe it. makes no sense to me.


Well it's a website where you're supposed to have fun discussing spooky stuff and conspiracies so I'm not surprised that the discussion goes on, its fun.


This is true but once information has been debunked or proven false, then it's not a conspiracy anymore it's just.......nothing. A Conspiracy is something that still has truth to it or the information cannot be properly debunked. This Alien pic thing for example unfortunately has nothing going for it anymore.


You can leave if the entire thread is debunked, I'm still enjoying it and we just had an interesting aircraft picture posted.


what do you find interesting about it? I see a picture of an airplane. some info. Nothing pops out to me as "interesting" do explain.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Perfectenemy

I think this is the aircraft pic to which you are referring:


4plebs post containing the above image.

Perhaps this is what is being distracted from?


I'm clueless as to what that pic is trying to relay, can you shed some light on it and as to why someone or some group would want to distract people from it?


If you read the thread he linked or any information about this whole thing from the start at all you'd know what that is.

archive.4plebs.org...



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:32 PM
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Someone sent me this via PM.


Does the eye not look familiar?..

Hint:



Hint 2:



Hint 3: 25 miles away "allah"


Hint 4:




Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.


Versus
John 8:44King James Version (KJV)

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
(Proof that both sides don't worship the same God.)


Please leave out your personal feelings and simply look at the scriptures from a non bias view. Sometimes we need to examine all fronts and I believe this is one big sign.

And I hope Christians become aware, and frankly whatever the original image is, the one in this post baffled me the most. And It's a familiar feeling which is odd. It almost feels ancient. Tread carefully on this one brothers, and make sure you pray to father God and Jesus Christ before truly venturing in. I have a bad vibe on this one. A very very bad vibe.





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posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3
a reply to: jidnum

That's what makes it a fun thought, its fictional but that doesn't make it not fun to imagine and discuss.


Well this thread is to discuss facts not fallacy.

So far what we know is, people said something happened, nobody has proof of any of it happening. just hearsay.


I think people are allowed to say what they saw and also comment on what others said they saw unless I'm mistaken?


Sure, but so far nothing has been proven to be fact. Just a bunch of nonsense. Even after someone came forward and admitted to faking the picture and trickling in pieces people still want to believe it. makes no sense to me.


Well it's a website where you're supposed to have fun discussing spooky stuff and conspiracies so I'm not surprised that the discussion goes on, its fun.


This is true but once information has been debunked or proven false, then it's not a conspiracy anymore it's just.......nothing. A Conspiracy is something that still has truth to it or the information cannot be properly debunked. This Alien pic thing for example unfortunately has nothing going for it anymore.


You can leave if the entire thread is debunked, I'm still enjoying it and we just had an interesting aircraft picture posted.


what do you find interesting about it? I see a picture of an airplane. some info. Nothing pops out to me as "interesting" do explain.


Start at page 1 and read the thread to learn what we're talking about. I had no idea you've just shown up to tell people to stop discussing it like some sort of troll.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: jidnum

From what I gather, I think it may have something to do with 9/11. Not certain, that's just the implication I get from reading the contextual posts. I may be completely off base though and conflating things not necessarily related, so grain of salt and all.

 


I included the pic on the off chance that it disappears from where it is currently and because ATS has some phenomenal sleuths who may be able to tease out more connections from the information contained therein. Again, could be nothing and not related, but I figured I would include it here as part of the discussion and not knowing if it had been posted in the middle 30 pages or so of the thread which I have not read.
edit on 26-2-2017 by jadedANDcynical because: more



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3
a reply to: jidnum

That's what makes it a fun thought, its fictional but that doesn't make it not fun to imagine and discuss.


Well this thread is to discuss facts not fallacy.

So far what we know is, people said something happened, nobody has proof of any of it happening. just hearsay.


I think people are allowed to say what they saw and also comment on what others said they saw unless I'm mistaken?


Sure, but so far nothing has been proven to be fact. Just a bunch of nonsense. Even after someone came forward and admitted to faking the picture and trickling in pieces people still want to believe it. makes no sense to me.


Well it's a website where you're supposed to have fun discussing spooky stuff and conspiracies so I'm not surprised that the discussion goes on, its fun.


This is true but once information has been debunked or proven false, then it's not a conspiracy anymore it's just.......nothing. A Conspiracy is something that still has truth to it or the information cannot be properly debunked. This Alien pic thing for example unfortunately has nothing going for it anymore.


You can leave if the entire thread is debunked, I'm still enjoying it and we just had an interesting aircraft picture posted.


what do you find interesting about it? I see a picture of an airplane. some info. Nothing pops out to me as "interesting" do explain.


Start at page 1 and read the thread to learn what we're talking about. I had no idea you've just shown up to tell people to stop discussing it like some sort of troll.


What are you talking about? All I Seen you mention is some image detecting software about some alien pic. I think you are starting to take this personal. And if you bothered to take a look at the this thread you will see I was here posting before you were even registered to the site.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:37 PM
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Has anyone tried messing with the colours of the eye? Someone said something about something being in the eyes?

I just did this and it could well be seeing shapes out of nothing, but i see what looks like a woman sitting or something..

s17.postimg.org...



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: Holden3

Ok man. I give up with you. You dont seem to want to get it.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:38 PM
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By the way..the model.

I am almost certain it's a movie prop from years ago. I'm pretty sure I seen it in a kids movie back in the 80's or 90's.

There is no way some /pol/tard made that just for lulz, especially within a couple of days just to troll in the wake of this alledged "real" alien pic.

What alien move? Well seeing as there are literally thousands..I dunno but it's a movie prop.
It may well have been rented out from a prop warehouse for this purpose..



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3
a reply to: jidnum

That's what makes it a fun thought, its fictional but that doesn't make it not fun to imagine and discuss.


Well this thread is to discuss facts not fallacy.

So far what we know is, people said something happened, nobody has proof of any of it happening. just hearsay.


I think people are allowed to say what they saw and also comment on what others said they saw unless I'm mistaken?


Sure, but so far nothing has been proven to be fact. Just a bunch of nonsense. Even after someone came forward and admitted to faking the picture and trickling in pieces people still want to believe it. makes no sense to me.


Well it's a website where you're supposed to have fun discussing spooky stuff and conspiracies so I'm not surprised that the discussion goes on, its fun.


This is true but once information has been debunked or proven false, then it's not a conspiracy anymore it's just.......nothing. A Conspiracy is something that still has truth to it or the information cannot be properly debunked. This Alien pic thing for example unfortunately has nothing going for it anymore.


You can leave if the entire thread is debunked, I'm still enjoying it and we just had an interesting aircraft picture posted.


what do you find interesting about it? I see a picture of an airplane. some info. Nothing pops out to me as "interesting" do explain.


Start at page 1 and read the thread to learn what we're talking about. I had no idea you've just shown up to tell people to stop discussing it like some sort of troll.


What are you talking about? All I Seen you mention is some image detecting software about some alien pic. I think you are starting to take this personal. And if you bothered to take a look at the this thread you will see I was here posting before you were even registered to the site.


I thought you had read the entire thread, you need to read the entire thread.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:42 PM
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Alll the accusations and insults in that 4chan thread. *sigh* However i guess it has to do with 9/11. The Boeing in the pic is the exact same type of the 5 highjackers involved in the attack. Smoking gun perhaps?

Damn that thread is wild. Some posts also suggested that the "alien" was a human hybrid and it got leaked. Wow. I live for this crap.

edit on 26-2-2017 by Perfectenemy because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3
a reply to: jidnum

That's what makes it a fun thought, its fictional but that doesn't make it not fun to imagine and discuss.


Well this thread is to discuss facts not fallacy.

So far what we know is, people said something happened, nobody has proof of any of it happening. just hearsay.


I think people are allowed to say what they saw and also comment on what others said they saw unless I'm mistaken?


Sure, but so far nothing has been proven to be fact. Just a bunch of nonsense. Even after someone came forward and admitted to faking the picture and trickling in pieces people still want to believe it. makes no sense to me.


Well it's a website where you're supposed to have fun discussing spooky stuff and conspiracies so I'm not surprised that the discussion goes on, its fun.


This is true but once information has been debunked or proven false, then it's not a conspiracy anymore it's just.......nothing. A Conspiracy is something that still has truth to it or the information cannot be properly debunked. This Alien pic thing for example unfortunately has nothing going for it anymore.


You can leave if the entire thread is debunked, I'm still enjoying it and we just had an interesting aircraft picture posted.


what do you find interesting about it? I see a picture of an airplane. some info. Nothing pops out to me as "interesting" do explain.


Start at page 1 and read the thread to learn what we're talking about. I had no idea you've just shown up to tell people to stop discussing it like some sort of troll.


What are you talking about? All I Seen you mention is some image detecting software about some alien pic. I think you are starting to take this personal. And if you bothered to take a look at the this thread you will see I was here posting before you were even registered to the site.


I thought you had read the entire thread, you need to read the entire thread.


geez man do you not give up? I'm asking the person who posted the plane picture to explain more on what the purpose of it is. Why? because that is something to go by. Alien pic, still a hoax. move on, go troll someone else.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3
a reply to: jidnum

That's what makes it a fun thought, its fictional but that doesn't make it not fun to imagine and discuss.


Well this thread is to discuss facts not fallacy.

So far what we know is, people said something happened, nobody has proof of any of it happening. just hearsay.


I think people are allowed to say what they saw and also comment on what others said they saw unless I'm mistaken?


Sure, but so far nothing has been proven to be fact. Just a bunch of nonsense. Even after someone came forward and admitted to faking the picture and trickling in pieces people still want to believe it. makes no sense to me.


Well it's a website where you're supposed to have fun discussing spooky stuff and conspiracies so I'm not surprised that the discussion goes on, its fun.


This is true but once information has been debunked or proven false, then it's not a conspiracy anymore it's just.......nothing. A Conspiracy is something that still has truth to it or the information cannot be properly debunked. This Alien pic thing for example unfortunately has nothing going for it anymore.


You can leave if the entire thread is debunked, I'm still enjoying it and we just had an interesting aircraft picture posted.


what do you find interesting about it? I see a picture of an airplane. some info. Nothing pops out to me as "interesting" do explain.


Start at page 1 and read the thread to learn what we're talking about. I had no idea you've just shown up to tell people to stop discussing it like some sort of troll.


What are you talking about? All I Seen you mention is some image detecting software about some alien pic. I think you are starting to take this personal. And if you bothered to take a look at the this thread you will see I was here posting before you were even registered to the site.


I thought you had read the entire thread, you need to read the entire thread.


geez man do you not give up? I'm asking the person who posted the plane picture to explain more on what the purpose of it is. Why? because that is something to go by. Alien pic, still a hoax. move on, go troll someone else.


You've been acting like an authority on it having not gone back to actually read what we're talking about and INSISTING that people repost stuff you can already see by READING THE THREAD YOURE IN.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3
a reply to: jidnum

That's what makes it a fun thought, its fictional but that doesn't make it not fun to imagine and discuss.


Well this thread is to discuss facts not fallacy.

So far what we know is, people said something happened, nobody has proof of any of it happening. just hearsay.


I think people are allowed to say what they saw and also comment on what others said they saw unless I'm mistaken?


Sure, but so far nothing has been proven to be fact. Just a bunch of nonsense. Even after someone came forward and admitted to faking the picture and trickling in pieces people still want to believe it. makes no sense to me.


Well it's a website where you're supposed to have fun discussing spooky stuff and conspiracies so I'm not surprised that the discussion goes on, its fun.


This is true but once information has been debunked or proven false, then it's not a conspiracy anymore it's just.......nothing. A Conspiracy is something that still has truth to it or the information cannot be properly debunked. This Alien pic thing for example unfortunately has nothing going for it anymore.


You can leave if the entire thread is debunked, I'm still enjoying it and we just had an interesting aircraft picture posted.


what do you find interesting about it? I see a picture of an airplane. some info. Nothing pops out to me as "interesting" do explain.


Start at page 1 and read the thread to learn what we're talking about. I had no idea you've just shown up to tell people to stop discussing it like some sort of troll.


What are you talking about? All I Seen you mention is some image detecting software about some alien pic. I think you are starting to take this personal. And if you bothered to take a look at the this thread you will see I was here posting before you were even registered to the site.


I thought you had read the entire thread, you need to read the entire thread.


geez man do you not give up? I'm asking the person who posted the plane picture to explain more on what the purpose of it is. Why? because that is something to go by. Alien pic, still a hoax. move on, go troll someone else.


You've been acting like an authority on it having not gone back to actually read what we're talking about and INSISTING that people repost stuff you can already see by READING THE THREAD YOURE IN.


why? he explained in a nice summary because he was a decent human being.

can you just move on or are you going to keep arguing for nothing?

and no I have not been acting like an authority on anything. I was saying this alien stuff is a hoax. there is no proof of this "alien stuff" give up. im ignoring you from now on.
edit on 26-2-2017 by jidnum because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3

originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: Holden3
a reply to: jidnum

That's what makes it a fun thought, its fictional but that doesn't make it not fun to imagine and discuss.


Well this thread is to discuss facts not fallacy.

So far what we know is, people said something happened, nobody has proof of any of it happening. just hearsay.


I think people are allowed to say what they saw and also comment on what others said they saw unless I'm mistaken?


Sure, but so far nothing has been proven to be fact. Just a bunch of nonsense. Even after someone came forward and admitted to faking the picture and trickling in pieces people still want to believe it. makes no sense to me.


Well it's a website where you're supposed to have fun discussing spooky stuff and conspiracies so I'm not surprised that the discussion goes on, its fun.


This is true but once information has been debunked or proven false, then it's not a conspiracy anymore it's just.......nothing. A Conspiracy is something that still has truth to it or the information cannot be properly debunked. This Alien pic thing for example unfortunately has nothing going for it anymore.


You can leave if the entire thread is debunked, I'm still enjoying it and we just had an interesting aircraft picture posted.


what do you find interesting about it? I see a picture of an airplane. some info. Nothing pops out to me as "interesting" do explain.


Start at page 1 and read the thread to learn what we're talking about. I had no idea you've just shown up to tell people to stop discussing it like some sort of troll.


What are you talking about? All I Seen you mention is some image detecting software about some alien pic. I think you are starting to take this personal. And if you bothered to take a look at the this thread you will see I was here posting before you were even registered to the site.


I thought you had read the entire thread, you need to read the entire thread.


geez man do you not give up? I'm asking the person who posted the plane picture to explain more on what the purpose of it is. Why? because that is something to go by. Alien pic, still a hoax. move on, go troll someone else.


You've been acting like an authority on it having not gone back to actually read what we're talking about and INSISTING that people repost stuff you can already see by READING THE THREAD YOURE IN.


why? he explained in a nice summary because he was a decent human being.

can you just move on or are you going to keep arguing for nothing?


Why wouldn't you just read the thread, why do you need to stay on the last page refreshing instead of actually becoming read up on the topic?



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: jidnum

From what I gather, I think it may have something to do with 9/11. Not certain, that's just the implication I get from reading the contextual posts. I may be completely off base though and conflating things not necessarily related, so grain of salt and all.

 


I included the pic on the off chance that it disappears from where it is currently and because ATS has some phenomenal sleuths who may be able to tease out more connections from the information contained therein. Again, could be nothing and not related, but I figured I would include it here as part of the discussion and not knowing if it had been posted in the middle 30 pages or so of the thread which I have not read.


That would make sense for a distraction.



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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Warning, conjecture ahead, use salt as applicable.

Plucking at random threads as I like to do, I went looking for whatever could be found in relation to the aircraft in the image I posted.

Jet Midwest Group has the following address: 1105 N MARKET ST STE 1300, WILMINGTON, DE, 19801.

Riffing off of that, the following company shares the same address:


Wilmington Trust SP Services, Inc. provides services for special purpose entities. Its services include corporate governance activities, such as providing independent directors and office facilities, storage of corporate records, and management of statutory and regulatory filings; and administration services, such as incorporation services, travel services, and funds movement and trade settlement. The company also offers accounting services, such as financial statement preparation, budgeting and tax preparation, and monitoring receipt of payments; and fiduciary services, such as custody of assets and trustee services, and investment management services. It serves banks, insurance companies, and other institutions. The company is based in Wilmington, Delaware. Wilmington Trust SP Services, Inc. operates as a subsidiary of Wilmington Trust, National Association.


bloomberg.com

A little further on and we have this:


Wilmington Trust, National Association offers personal and commercial banking services. Wilmington Trust, National Association was formerly known as M&T Bank, National Association and changed its name to Wilmington Trust, National Association in July 2011. The bank was founded in 1995 and is based in Wilmington, Delaware. Wilmington Trust, National Association operates as a subsidiary of Wilmington Trust Corporation.


bloomberg.com

That lead me to this:


WILMINGTON, DE—Charles M. Oberly, III, United States Attorney for the District of Delaware, announced today that Brian Bailey entered a guilty plea before the Honorable Richard G. Andrews to conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, as charged in a previously-filed Indictment and to a one count felony Information, also charging him with conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, both in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371.

According to the criminal Information and plea agreement, Bailey, who was employed by Wilmington Trust Company (the “Bank”) as the Delaware Market Manager, overseeing all lending in the state, conspired with Joseph Terranova and others to conceal the Bank’s true financial condition. The conspiracy involved, among other things, extending credit to keep existing loan interest payments current, thereby causing the Bank to misrepresent its reporting of past due and non-performing loans. The misrepresentations extended to, among others, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, agents and examiners appointed to examine the Bank, and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System. The criminal conduct enabled the Bank to file false statements of condition, or “Call Reports,” with federal financial regulators on a quarterly basis throughout 2009. As set forth in the Information, the Bank underreported its past due and nonperforming loans by approximately $186,000,000 in the first quarter of 2009; $234,000,000 in the second quarter of 2009; $463,000,000 in the third quarter of 2009; and $373,000,000 in the fourth quarter of 2009. Terranova previously entered a plea of guilty to the same underlying conduct in a separate case.


fbi.gov

Now, I know this is all tenuous, but as I recall a part of the real reason behind 9/11 was to hide some financial improprieties of high level players in government and finance. This may or may not have anything to do with the alien pic, but if a distraction is in the works from something which could lead back to actual players behind 9/11, this seems to be a likely angle to take.

The same kinds of people who would be looking into 9/11 are the ones who would also be digging to find out why an alien picture was removed from the chan.

edit on 26-2-2017 by jadedANDcynical because: fixed tag



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: Holden3

To be fair the 4chan thread is abysmal to read. ATS is so much better to read.

All i gathered so far is that the "alien" pic came from a militaryanon and got uploaded asap. Could someone please explain to me if militaryanon is just a term for some random person or does it refer to people who spy for anon? There is also a lot of talk about scales,high res pic,alien looked to the left and diagonally and the whole Boieng story seem to be related. I'm still reading though. I don't claim that everything i'm posting in this thread is true. It's just information i'm gathering.

Edit:Goddamn i need some bleach. I didn't found anything new. The only interesting part was that 4HC at the end of the thread title correlates to
"Protein-coding gene on human chromosome 6p22.1, also known as H4 histone family, H4/g, H4FG, H4c, dJ221C16.1, histone 1, member G." This is some strange coincidence if you ask me.
edit on 26-2-2017 by Perfectenemy because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 26 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: bknapple32
a reply to: zazzafrazz

im confused what youre doubting... do you doubt a picture was ever posted?


Likely this is not alien at all but a creation. Possible reptile human and it decided it wanted the world to take note it is being kept imprisoned and experimented on. Would lead me to conclude there are many experiments with human animal chimeras at this lab.



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