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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Look Buzzy we don't owe illegals a better life. Churches are increasingly falling prey to the Progressive agenda and bought into the fallacy of Christian Socialism. For you to hate Christians as you do then say oh but they are going along with the agenda of my choice....oh did you put a hex on Trump yet with your fellow Wiccans?


We don't owe them a better life, we owe them a chance. The immigration laws in this country are so screwed up, and congress will not fix them. You think you are better than an undocumented immigrant, but my family were undocumented when they arrived here in 1621. The conservative review BLOG link does not make your argument stronger.
Oh stop it. I've never said I was better than anyone else. Your defensiveness shows that you condone breaking laws because of your own family. I'm sorry but it doesn't make you right or have some kind of moral authority.
Why not go to Mexico illegally and see what happens. In so tired of this liberal self righteousness. It appears I've hit a nerve with you but this is not 1621 and it's not Jamestown so don't bother with that Progressive tack. Today Soros is promoting Open Borders for the express purpose of destroying American sovereignty. If you are for cultural Marxism knock yourself out. Or maybe it's one of those guilt trips ... whatever it is there's more to this than just being nice to people running from bad economics. It's become a destructive force by design from international globalists. Maybe you are the one who thinks yourself better?
On another note you might want to
Get better informed about what is really going on here, as there is a concerted effort by groups of people to practice black magic and witchcraft on the President of tgeunited States at midnight tonight. You may not think it's serious but why don't you ask some of the resident witches on ATS. Here's a link
To the current thread www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Look Buzzy we don't owe illegals a better life. Churches are increasingly falling prey to the Progressive agenda and bought into the fallacy of Christian Socialism. For you to hate Christians as you do then say oh but they are going along with the agenda of my choice....oh did you put a hex on Trump yet with your fellow Wiccans?


We don't owe them a better life, we owe them a chance. The immigration laws in this country are so screwed up, and congress will not fix them. You think you are better than an undocumented immigrant, but my family were undocumented when they arrived here in 1621. The conservative review BLOG link does not make your argument stronger.
Oh stop it. I've never said I was better than anyone else. Your defensiveness shows that you condone breaking laws because of your own family. I'm sorry but it doesn't make you right or have some kind of moral authority.
Why not go to Mexico illegally and see what happens. In so tired of this liberal self righteousness. It appears I've hit a nerve with you but this is not 1621 and it's not Jamestown so don't bother with that Progressive tack. Today Soros is promoting Open Borders for the express purpose of destroying American sovereignty. If you are for cultural Marxism knock yourself out. Or maybe it's one of those guilt trips ... whatever it is there's more to this than just being nice to people running from bad economics. It's become a destructive force by design from international globalists. Maybe you are the one who thinks yourself better?
On another note you might want to
Get better informed about what is really going on here, as there is a concerted effort by groups of people to practice black magic and witchcraft on the President of tgeunited States at midnight tonight. You may not think it's serious but why don't you ask some of the resident witches on ATS. Here's a link
To the current thread www.abovetopsecret.com...


How was I defensive in anyway, half of my family arrived her in 1621. The other half of my family arrived here in 1850 from Germany. You got a problem with that. Actually your post is so f'd up, ain't even going to try and answer.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Look Buzzy we don't owe illegals a better life. Churches are increasingly falling prey to the Progressive agenda and bought into the fallacy of Christian Socialism. For you to hate Christians as you do then say oh but they are going along with the agenda of my choice....oh did you put a hex on Trump yet with your fellow Wiccans?


We don't owe them a better life, we owe them a chance. The immigration laws in this country are so screwed up, and congress will not fix them. You think you are better than an undocumented immigrant, but my family were undocumented when they arrived here in 1621. The conservative review BLOG link does not make your argument stronger.
Oh stop it. I've never said I was better than anyone else. Your defensiveness shows that you condone breaking laws because of your own family. I'm sorry but it doesn't make you right or have some kind of moral authority.
Why not go to Mexico illegally and see what happens. In so tired of this liberal self righteousness. It appears I've hit a nerve with you but this is not 1621 and it's not Jamestown so don't bother with that Progressive tack. Today Soros is promoting Open Borders for the express purpose of destroying American sovereignty. If you are for cultural Marxism knock yourself out. Or maybe it's one of those guilt trips ... whatever it is there's more to this than just being nice to people running from bad economics. It's become a destructive force by design from international globalists. Maybe you are the one who thinks yourself better?
On another note you might want to
Get better informed about what is really going on here, as there is a concerted effort by groups of people to practice black magic and witchcraft on the President of tgeunited States at midnight tonight. You may not think it's serious but why don't you ask some of the resident witches on ATS. Here's a link
To the current thread www.abovetopsecret.com...


How was I defensive in anyway, half of my family arrived her in 1621. The other half of my family arrived here in 1850 from Germany. You got a problem with that. Actually your post is so f'd up, ain't even going to try and answer.
I have family from
Bavaria too bubbajoe though likely not undocumented. There is a difference between legal immigration and undocumented illegals. Things were different in 1621 and you know it. I don't buy into the sympathy trip
And no we don't owe illegals a thing. Your insults won't change a thing.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 11:47 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Look Buzzy we don't owe illegals a better life. Churches are increasingly falling prey to the Progressive agenda and bought into the fallacy of Christian Socialism. For you to hate Christians as you do then say oh but they are going along with the agenda of my choice....oh did you put a hex on Trump yet with your fellow Wiccans?


We don't owe them a better life, we owe them a chance. The immigration laws in this country are so screwed up, and congress will not fix them. You think you are better than an undocumented immigrant, but my family were undocumented when they arrived here in 1621. The conservative review BLOG link does not make your argument stronger.
Oh stop it. I've never said I was better than anyone else. Your defensiveness shows that you condone breaking laws because of your own family. I'm sorry but it doesn't make you right or have some kind of moral authority.
Why not go to Mexico illegally and see what happens. In so tired of this liberal self righteousness. It appears I've hit a nerve with you but this is not 1621 and it's not Jamestown so don't bother with that Progressive tack. Today Soros is promoting Open Borders for the express purpose of destroying American sovereignty. If you are for cultural Marxism knock yourself out. Or maybe it's one of those guilt trips ... whatever it is there's more to this than just being nice to people running from bad economics. It's become a destructive force by design from international globalists. Maybe you are the one who thinks yourself better?
On another note you might want to
Get better informed about what is really going on here, as there is a concerted effort by groups of people to practice black magic and witchcraft on the President of tgeunited States at midnight tonight. You may not think it's serious but why don't you ask some of the resident witches on ATS. Here's a link
To the current thread www.abovetopsecret.com...


How was I defensive in anyway, half of my family arrived her in 1621. The other half of my family arrived here in 1850 from Germany. You got a problem with that. Actually your post is so f'd up, ain't even going to try and answer.
I have family from
Bavaria too bubbajoe though likely not undocumented. There is a difference between legal immigration and undocumented illegals. Things were different in 1621 and you know it. I don't buy into the sympathy trip
And no we don't owe illegals a thing. Your insults won't change a thing.


I never said my family was owed anything, in 1621 we settled in NJ from land we had got from the natives, when they come over from Prussia in 1852 am not sure.



posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Look Buzzy we don't owe illegals a better life. Churches are increasingly falling prey to the Progressive agenda and bought into the fallacy of Christian Socialism. For you to hate Christians as you do then say oh but they are going along with the agenda of my choice....oh did you put a hex on Trump yet with your fellow Wiccans?


We don't owe them a better life, we owe them a chance. The immigration laws in this country are so screwed up, and congress will not fix them. You think you are better than an undocumented immigrant, but my family were undocumented when they arrived here in 1621. The conservative review BLOG link does not make your argument stronger.
Oh stop it. I've never said I was better than anyone else. Your defensiveness shows that you condone breaking laws because of your own family. I'm sorry but it doesn't make you right or have some kind of moral authority.
Why not go to Mexico illegally and see what happens. In so tired of this liberal self righteousness. It appears I've hit a nerve with you but this is not 1621 and it's not Jamestown so don't bother with that Progressive tack. Today Soros is promoting Open Borders for the express purpose of destroying American sovereignty. If you are for cultural Marxism knock yourself out. Or maybe it's one of those guilt trips ... whatever it is there's more to this than just being nice to people running from bad economics. It's become a destructive force by design from international globalists. Maybe you are the one who thinks yourself better?
On another note you might want to
Get better informed about what is really going on here, as there is a concerted effort by groups of people to practice black magic and witchcraft on the President of tgeunited States at midnight tonight. You may not think it's serious but why don't you ask some of the resident witches on ATS. Here's a link
To the current thread www.abovetopsecret.com...


How was I defensive in anyway, half of my family arrived her in 1621. The other half of my family arrived here in 1850 from Germany. You got a problem with that. Actually your post is so f'd up, ain't even going to try and answer.
I have family from
Bavaria too bubbajoe though likely not undocumented. There is a difference between legal immigration and undocumented illegals. Things were different in 1621 and you know it. I don't buy into the sympathy trip
And no we don't owe illegals a thing. Your insults won't change a thing.


I never said my family was owed anything, in 1621 we settled in NJ from land we had got from the natives, when they come over from Prussia in 1852 am not sure.

No, you said that we collectively owe illegals a chance. Perchance would you mind telling me why I owe any illegal anything? Especially my tax dollars for free education and healthcare which is what the agenda is for Progressives....
I went right to the core of the agenda of Marxism and communist takeover of latin America as the root of the Catholic policy of providing sanctuary and you tell me my post doesn't make sense.
The truth is often not fun to hear but you know we are speaking of the church now....its in the thread title so "ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free". Heres an article about the Catholic church and communism
www.americanthinker.com...

Economist James Simpson warns us what an addiction to the Democratic Party may lead to: "[t]he purpose is plain: Communists seek to use amnestied illegals to build a "permanent progressive majority[.] ... Most thinking Americans know that Democrats only care about illegals for the winning voting bloc they can provide, but most are unaware that this idea was hatched and developed by the American Communist Party."

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posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I guess that is one way of looking at it. The Underground railroad provided a path for a slave to run to freedom. However in this case we see the "underground slavery network" running in reverse. Today economic migrants.. aka most illegal immigration.... is only permitted so low wage jobs can be filled. California is a great example of the new slave plantation staffed by illegal immigrants. The truth is that instead of raising wages people, States and others are importing a class of slave labor to support their high-priced economy.

Nothing compassionate about enabling human trafficking and indebted servitude.



posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: fnpmitchreturns
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I guess that is one way of looking at it. The Underground railroad provided a path for a slave to run to freedom. However in this case we see the "underground slavery network" running in reverse. Today economic migrants.. aka most illegal immigration.... is only permitted so low wage jobs can be filled. California is a great example of the new slave plantation staffed by illegal immigrants. The truth is that instead of raising wages people, States and others are importing a class of slave labor to support their high-priced economy.

Nothing compassionate about enabling human trafficking and indebted servitude.
Thank you for this response.

The fight against raising wages for actual Americans is the same thing.
The debt-based society of consumerism is also the same thing.

It's a mess. But when people aren't paid enough to hire "legal professionals", they will hire their friends, or the folks who their friends recommend. It returns us to the barter system in some ways. When I need a job done by an experienced expert who is for hire independently, I will choose them EVERY TIME over some corporate slick-talker who pads his or her estimates way way way out of my price range.

If I give a job to an outfit to trim my trees, and the 'crew leader' shows up and doesn't know which trees he is supposed to be trimming to begin with, and then I show him what the job is, and he refuses to do it ---- I tell him to get the hell off of my property.

Skill is skill. Integrity is integrity. A person who works 40 hours a week should be earning enough to live on without asking for help from the government.
Insurance companies SHOULD BE NON-PROFIT. This country is in a world of hurt....and the people who are squatting at the White House right now have NO connection or interest in any of that.



posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
800 actual religious institutions who realize that The Golden Rule is MOST IMPORTANT.

Those other 342,200 congregations who are too COWARDLY and racist and paranoid and FAKE?

I don't get it. Help me by shplaining very slowly.

Why would The Church help people break the law?





posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
800 actual religious institutions who realize that The Golden Rule is MOST IMPORTANT.

Those other 342,200 congregations who are too COWARDLY and racist and paranoid and FAKE?

I don't get it. Help me by shplaining very slowly.

Why would The Church help people break the law?


Leviticus 19:34

You shall treat the foreigner who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.



posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
800 actual religious institutions who realize that The Golden Rule is MOST IMPORTANT.

Those other 342,200 congregations who are too COWARDLY and racist and paranoid and FAKE?

I don't get it. Help me by shplaining very slowly.

Why would The Church help people break the law?


Exodus 22:21

"You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.



posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Good effort on your part Buzzy, but it's like showing card tricks to a dog isn't it?



posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
800 actual religious institutions who realize that The Golden Rule is MOST IMPORTANT.

Those other 342,200 congregations who are too COWARDLY and racist and paranoid and FAKE?

I don't get it. Help me by shplaining very slowly.

Why would The Church help people break the law?


Leviticus 19:34

You shall treat the foreigner who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
I see you've tried Alinsky rules on this one. Nice try. Being nice to foreigners isn't the same as aiding and abetting those who
Break the laws of the land. Which Progressive website provided this quote for you ?
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posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
800 actual religious institutions who realize that The Golden Rule is MOST IMPORTANT.

Those other 342,200 congregations who are too COWARDLY and racist and paranoid and FAKE?

I don't get it. Help me by shplaining very slowly.

Why would The Church help people break the law?


Leviticus 19:34

You shall treat the foreigner who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Which Progressive website provided this quote for you ?



Uhh.......The bible?



posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Good effort on your part Buzzy, but it's like showing card tricks to a dog isn't it?





posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


Which Progressive website provided this quote for you ?



DID YOU JUST REALLY TYPE THIS QUESTION?

Seriously, I know you were irritated by my earlier assertion that in six years you STILL have not got caught up with modern knowledge, current events, reality, and responsibility. But -- really?

It's really sad.

I'll paraphrase Indigo5: uhhh, The Bible

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posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
800 actual religious institutions who realize that The Golden Rule is MOST IMPORTANT.

Those other 342,200 congregations who are too COWARDLY and racist and paranoid and FAKE?

I don't get it. Help me by shplaining very slowly.

Why would The Church help people break the law?


Leviticus 19:34

You shall treat the foreigner who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Which Progressive website provided this quote for you ?



Uhh.......The bible?

Yah I'm sure you went right to it

Try this one instead

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.” 1 Tim. 4:1


“Wallis’ Sojourners enterprise has been a radical, socialistic undertaking from the start. Frontpage Magazine (March 17, 2009) says, ‘As one of its first acts, Sojourners formed a commune in the Washington, D.C., neighborhood of Southern Columbia Heights, where members shared their finances and participated in various activist campaigns that centered on attacking the U.S. foreign policy, denouncing American ‘imperialism,’ and extolling Marxist revolutionary movements in the Third World.’” (Source) 
bereanresearch.org...

Ive said before that the Church has been infiltrated by Marxists. Wallis is part of Obama/Hillary team.
This is living proof of it
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posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


Which Progressive website provided this quote for you ?



DID YOU JUST REALLY TYPE THIS QUESTION?

Seriously, I know you were irritated by my earlier assertion that in six years you STILL have not got caught up with modern knowledge, current events, reality, and responsibility.

It's really sad.

I'll paraphrase Indigo5: uhhh, The Bible


Caught up? lol that is truly funny. How did your spell go last night. I noticed you were absent from your thread. It is you who needs to do some research on things instead of this whole "I love people who break the law and we have to help them" mentality of Progressives. I have posted the most current stuff regarding Marxism and how the communists have used the Church in its fight for their agenda. Communism hasn't changed, just the name for it has.

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posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
800 actual religious institutions who realize that The Golden Rule is MOST IMPORTANT.

Those other 342,200 congregations who are too COWARDLY and racist and paranoid and FAKE?

I don't get it. Help me by shplaining very slowly.

Why would The Church help people break the law?


God's law is greater than man's law.

Period.



posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
800 actual religious institutions who realize that The Golden Rule is MOST IMPORTANT.

Those other 342,200 congregations who are too COWARDLY and racist and paranoid and FAKE?

I don't get it. Help me by shplaining very slowly.

Why would The Church help people break the law?


God's law is greater than man's law.

Period.

Jesus also replaced the ear of the Roman soldier after his apostle cut it off so that the apostle would not incur karmic debt to the Roman soldier. Karmic law is funny in that way.
Progressives are calling anything they don't like FAKE news, including the author of this thread. Progressives are using bible scripture to justify their social justice agenda. That's what is going on here, not a true lesson in Christic understanding. Christian socialism embraces a socialistic world view, but you know while we are admonished to be our brothers keeper, we are also admonished that "every man shall bear his own burden" Galatians 6:5
Institutionalized government confiscation of our monies in socialist redistribution schemes is not and never was the true meaning of Christ teachings. True charity is however. So while churches may feel in their hearts that they are doing good for individuals, they are nevertheless breaking the laws of the land. Jesus said to render unto Caesar what is Caesars, not as an endorsement of socialism but as point of NOT breaking the laws of the land.
God's law should be reflected in man's laws. Where in the bible does it say to kill your unborn?
If you really want to be archaic though, why don't you consider sacrificing your first born as a sign of obedience to God?
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posted on Feb, 25 2017 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus


How did your spell go last night. I noticed you were absent from your thread.


whut?

We had a friend over and were enjoying the evening. Was I supposed to be checking in with you?

What "spell"?





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