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CIA Refuses To Disclose Nazi Ties

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posted on Jan, 31 2005 @ 10:28 AM
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The CIA has refused to disclose records, in direct violation of a law passed in 1998 requiring the release of records regarding the US Government's involvement with the Nazi party AFTER WWII. Why? Because the people we 'imported' from Nazi Germany were brought here and given jobs in places that would scare you, like the media and weapons research. Because Trading with the enemy, and giving aide and comfort to the enemy is illegal, not to mention immoral. The OSS and later the CIA was so impressed with the atrocities and propoganda machine of the German 3rd Reich, I guess they just had to have 'em. Sickening really, all the blood of american spilled in Europe and Asia to fight Facism, while the biggest supporters of the Nazi Party were cashing checks right here at home.


interestalert.com.../sn/01300000aaa01226.upi&Sys=siteia&Fid=FRONTPAG&Type=News&Filter=Front%20Page
The CIA refuses to provide documents sought by the U.S. government under a law requiring disclosure of classified records related to Nazi war criminals.
Under the 1998 law, the spy agency has already provided more than 1.2 million pages of documents. Some of the papers made public last year showed a closer relationship between the U.S. government and Nazi war criminals than had previously been understood.
But for nearly three years, the CIA has nixed requests for more records, Congressional officials and some members of a government working group told The New York Times.
The officials believe the stance seems to violate the law and say the agency has sometimes agreed to provide information about ex-Nazis, but not about the extent of the agency's dealings with them after World War II.

Little wonder considering Bush Family ties to WWII Nazi Germany. It goes deeper than just Prescott's ties to Union Banking Corp. Ever hear of
I G Farben? If they released all the information relevant to operation paperclip, the US Government would be guilty of treason against the American people. Period. They should have lined Prescott, Rockefeller, Ford, and all the other industrialist that empowered Facism against a wall and shot them for war crimes instead of giving them the keys to the western world. Now everytime you watch the news, you have them to thank for the one sided propogandist garbage we are being fed day in and day out, and the new imperialist dogma of our foriegn policy. We as Americans, shouldn't sit back and let the CIA refuse to release this information. There is no matter of national security to be protected here 60 years after the war, only the reputations of our government, and the coporations behind it. People need to know who is running the show because it sure as hell isn't them anymore, and this is proof we aren't going to be allowed to see.




posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 02:50 AM
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Looks like this piece of news is starting to hit the main stay newstands. Good. Realizing you have a problem is the first step.


story.news.yahoo.com.../ap/20050201/ap_on_go_co/nazi_records
"There is still information that we believe the CIA has about the United States' involvement with former Nazis," said DeWine. "We need to get this information out."
Documents released last year indicate there was a closer relationship than previously thought between the United States and individuals with Nazi ties after WWII. A working group created to declassify the information is trying to determine exactly what they did for the CIA and the status of their employment.
This request challenges the CIA's deeply held reluctance to release any intelligence-related information and the law's broad mandate for disclosing details about Nazi war criminals.
A CIA spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity, acknowledged the agency is withholding some information, but said the law provides for an exemption when it comes to protecting sources and methods.
The CIA already has acknowledged that it or its predecessor agency, the Office of Strategic Services, had a relationship with some individuals later found to be war criminals and provided a general description of their operational tasks, the spokesman said.



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 02:58 AM
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Originally posted by twitchy
Realizing you have a problem is the first step.


Exactly. The first step of a long road of recovery. And frankly, I don't see how America can sweep this one under the rug anymore. US government Nazi Ties, no longer for conspiracy theorist anymore.



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 09:42 AM
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who cares if the usa had nazi ties...if we got some good info from these people then good for us....we're not the nazis, we weren't doing the killing over there......give it a rest already



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 10:03 AM
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Well, after some digging around I found some thing that may have more clues for you. There are a few sides to the story, but these two seem to be the common take.

The OSS and Project SAFEHAVEN

This second one may be more controversial, but is none the less relevant.
It is the story of the Odd Couple Plus One

Now in order to get the truth you are looking for, you have to go after the Office of Strategic Service



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 11:32 AM
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Excellent work Twitchy & Advisor. I think the numbers of those of us who don't just believe what we see hear and read are growing, and take the time to read between the lines and do research. And unless they kill us off the numbers will continue to grow. And I say more power to us.

Just remember this: the Nazi Invasions and the Allied Invasions were financed by the same people.... So why would it be surprising that they would bring experts who worked for the Nazis to work for the U.S. government?



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 12:25 PM
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But the government will just say it's a secret and you don't get to know. That will be the end of this info, I know your saying there is a law about giving that kind of info but come on, wheather it's true or not this will fade away



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 12:29 PM
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I believe it was called Project Paperclip if anyone is interested. There are probably even some threads on ATS about it.



posted on Feb, 1 2005 @ 05:57 PM
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Not just the CIA, but the USA, and even western civilization, has long since been using imported Nazi-German programs. A lot of the Nazi German names have been changed. For example, propoganda is now called public relations. Eugenics is now called gene therapy, and many of the Nazi programs investigating extra-mental ability, such as telepathy and telekinesis, are called psy-ops. We even have a department dedicated to psy-ops.

This is just further proof that the illuminati were playing both sides of the war, using the war as a diversion, while they experimented on humans and studied human habits in order to manipulate us.



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by a3s73rg30ne
This is just further proof that the illuminati were playing both sides of the war, using the war as a diversion, while they experimented on humans and studied human habits in order to manipulate us.


Some things never change.

www.guardian.co.uk...

news.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 07:05 AM
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My favourite bit is that if you look at the plans for Welwelsburg, it looks just like the spear badge of the OSS.



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 07:08 AM
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Looks to me like they'll resist it all the way.

If they argee, then it would be thin end of a very very large wedge. Imagine, Indo-China, South America, Taliban etc.



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 07:47 AM
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So much for the peoples government, i cant see why any of you even bother to vote anymore, its all a farse anyway. Whatever happened to transparent government?



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 07:56 AM
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Well, to my understanding, the CIA are predominantly SUPPOSED to be interested in external or foreign matters.

Nevertheless, no matter what anyone says, government will never be open. Can never be. Deals need to be cut and made on a daily basis. We (rightly or wrongly) vote them in and pray to God that they do a good job representing our interests.



posted on Feb, 2 2005 @ 08:09 AM
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well it should be transparent, and people voted in should be responsible for any decision they make. After all, they are payed handsomely for their job. But i guess if you are a greedy ol' SOB too much of everything is not enough.
This world is run by old bastards that should be put to sleep for good.



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 10:10 AM
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I found an update to this story on Reuters today...


www.reuters.com...
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Congress on Monday voted to extend by two years the life of a government panel charged with declassifying CIA documents that detail the spy agency's ties to former Nazis and war criminals.
The House of Representatives voted 391 to 0 on a bill that clears the way for the release of thousands of documents on former Nazis, including some who assisted in the CIA's Cold War espionage against the former Soviet Union.

The vote, which followed Senate approval on Feb. 16, sends the measure to President Bush for signing.

It will be inetersting to see if that little turd signs this bill, and if he does perhaps it will serve to open people's eyes a little wider and let them see who has been behind the curtain.



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally called Operation Overcast, Operation Paperclip was the codename for the operation by the US intelligence services and military to extract scientists specialising in rocketry (e.g. V-1, V-2), chemical weapons (e.g. Zyklon-B) and medicine from Germany after the collapse of the Nazi government during World War II. These scientists and their families were secretly brought to the United States, without State Department review and approval. None of them qualified for visas because they had all served to further the cause of Hitler's Third Reich in World War II.

Scientists were deployed at White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico and Fort Bliss, Texas to work on guided missile and ballistic missile technology, and led to the foundation of NASA and the US ICBM program.

Over 700 members of the Nazi scientific community were brought to the US as a direct result of Operation Paperclip, many of whom were still ardent Nazi supporters.

Although President Harry S. Truman gave explicit orders not to allow any scientists who were thought to have strong Nazi leanings to enter the US under Operation Paperclip, many dossiers were re-written to "clean-up" the histories of many of the scientists involved, to prevent them and their expertise falling into the hands of the Soviet Union.

Much of the information surrounding Operation Paperclip is still classified.

Separate from Paperclip was an even-more-secret effort to capture German nuclear secrets, equipment and personnel. See Operation Alsos. Another American project (TICOM) gathered German experts in cryptography.

Key figures:

Wernher von Braun
Bernhard Tessmann
Arthur Rudolph
Kurt Blome
Major General Walter Schreiber
Reinhard Gehlen
Allen Dulles (Op architect)
Alexander Lippisch
Hans von Ohain
Key Locations:

Nordhausen
Mittelwerk/Dora Concentration Camp
Peenemünde
White Sands Proving Ground

en.wikipedia.org...
www.wsmr.army.mil...



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 11:10 AM
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posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 12:38 PM
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Ah theblind, apparently you don't understand the implications here. In short, you are hostile and ignorant. Thanks for letting us know... Anybody else here think it's ok to have Nazi's in power here?



posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 01:12 PM
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Oh and as for nukunuku. Your nothing but an ungrateful punk. There are so many countries out there who are far worse than we are, no country is perfect but for you to be so better and ungrateful for the freedoms you have is sickning. People like you who are anti american and do nothing but be pissed at america for ever little thing are discusting. You look at nothing but the negitve and you let it fuel your rage and hate for the government. Next thing you know you lost in this pissed off emotional none logical mindset, to the point that you make your name nukunuku, you make a bunny and a mushroom on a purple background you avatar, you hate america, and your contemplatingyour sexualty. Now im pissed becuase I know there are people like you out there who are so off the chart lost that they forgot what the word logic means.


[edit on 17-3-2005 by Theblind]



So you are trying to say you know me? Think again....

first and foremost i dont live in USA, which doesnt mean i have any nicer feelings toward my countries government. They are all the same, a bunch of ungratefull greedy SOBs, who, when elected, ALWAYS show their true colors, which are CHEAT,LIE and STEAL

And do not pretend or think for a second to know my anything about me becouse you do not want to know people like me, i will get stuck in your throat and you will choke on me, that is right before you closet-mind explodes.

But you are right, sometimes i do fell like crap, its better than to be full of crap

btw, change your nick to deaf,dumb and blind

Peace,out



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