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Exclusive: Russian Bank Docs Show How Putin Laundered Money to Hillary & Podesta

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posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: carewemust




Something must have soured between them though. Biden campaigned for Hillary harder than Obama did.


Hmmmmm what could that've been........Benghazi maybe? The only time a US ambassador was left for dead in the history of the US?

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posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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originally posted by: Outlier13

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Outlier13

Of course the MSM won't touch it , the source is Infowars.
When did they become credible ?



Socrates one of my favorite philosophers once said the strength of an argument should be based solely on the merits of the argument and not who the orator is.
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That quote would be fitting if we were dealing with an argument. We are dealing with an expose' where the credibility/reliability of the source is 100% essential due to the fact that supposed events and timelines are at the root.



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posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:11 PM
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It's also amazing how the Panama Papers story was completely overlooked by the MSM and this story has direct ties to that as well. Sadly this will just wilt by the side of the road as if there is nothing to see. What is unfathomable to me is during this day and age of immediate access to information and the world wide surveillance state that overt criminal activity as blatant as this gets absolutely zero coverage by the MSM. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see what is happening before our eyes.

If the hidden powers that be can so easily dissuade and avoid the truth seekers of today imagine how damn easy it has been for them the past 1,000 years.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: Outlier13

The MSM is too bust trying to scramble and look for Trump/Russia connections that don't exist to address the reality of Clinton/Russia connections.

I said way back when they first started trying to tie Trump to Russia that it was t deflect from Hillary's real Russian ties. Nice to see proof of that!



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: Argus100

originally posted by: Outlier13

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Outlier13

Of course the MSM won't touch it , the source is Infowars.
When did they become credible ?



Socrates one of my favorite philosophers once said the strength of an argument should be based solely on the merits of the argument and not who the orator is.
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That quote would be fitting if we were dealing with an argument. We are dealing with an expose' where the credibility/reliability of the source is 100% essential due to the fact that supposed events and timelines are at the root.




My quote was dealing with an argument. That poster sought to automatically discredit a source simply based on who the source of the story was.

IMO this is a very dangerous way to live in the information age. If we all start to automatically discredit any and all information from sources based on predefined prejudices then we are doomed to become willful victims of "fake news".



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:19 PM
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What is unfathomable to me is during this day and age of immediate access to information and the world wide surveillance state that overt criminal activity as blatant as this gets absolutely zero coverage by the MSM.


Let's just be blunt here. It is time everybody look it square in the eye and understand that the MSM is just another arm of the far left factions that have a globalist agenda. Main stream America is in their way.

Obama liked to use the phrase "bad optics". IMO, any negative reporting or in depth investigation of this would look bad on the Obama administration and their chosen player, Hillary.

Unfortunately, alternative news sources sometimes reveal these things, and even though their credibility can be questioned sometimes, they are not always wrong. Many many times they are right. Just look at the National Inquirer. They broke several stories, although sensational sounding, turned out to be true. (John Edwards comes to mind.)



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: Argus100

originally posted by: Outlier13

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Outlier13

Of course the MSM won't touch it , the source is Infowars.
When did they become credible ?



Socrates one of my favorite philosophers once said the strength of an argument should be based solely on the merits of the argument and not who the orator is.
.


That quote would be fitting if we were dealing with an argument. We are dealing with an expose' where the credibility/reliability of the source is 100% essential due to the fact that supposed events and timelines are at the root.


The source is Weldon not Alex Jones, the vehicle he chose to disseminate from is infowars. Weldon is on the record as a Trump supporter, so is Alex Jones. Which Fake News would more likely tell his story? Hillary supporters bring Trump dirt to CNN all the time, how is that different? Waiting to see if Foxnews picks it up or it just lies there like a rotten potato.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:29 PM
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Here's Corsi & Weldon:



Very brief.
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posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Outlier13




What is unfathomable to me is during this day and age of immediate access to information and the world wide surveillance state that overt criminal activity as blatant as this gets absolutely zero coverage by the MSM.


Let's just be blunt here. It is time everybody look it square in the eye and understand that the MSM is just another arm of the far left factions that have a globalist agenda. Main stream America is in their way.

Obama liked to use the phrase "bad optics". IMO, any negative reporting or in depth investigation of this would look bad on the Obama administration and their chosen player, Hillary.

Unfortunately, alternative news sources sometimes reveal these things, and even though their credibility can be questioned sometimes, they are not always wrong. Many many times they are right. Just look at the National Inquirer. They broke several stories, although sensational sounding, turned out to be true. (John Edwards comes to mind.)





My underlying point to my disbelief is that it can so easily happen in this day and age. No one disputes the purpose of the MSM nor their agenda. With today's access to information at a moment's notice we can all do some level of vetting on just about any story. Fact check, cross reference, etc., and somewhere along the way we can at least get close to the truth.

The powers that be are not focused on hiding information. They realize it is impossible based on the sheer amount of data that is made available on a minute by minute basis. But what they have been doing and are doing a great job at is shaping the minds of those who would be easily led to automatically discredit a source before they even consume the content. Google algorithms burying Hillary crimes articles, Facebook falsely promoting "trending" topics which aren't, Twitter falsely promoting incendiary Tweets or changing the number of re Tweets to make a Tweet appear as if it has no steam when it actually does. And the list goes on. "They" are doing a great job of manipulating the masses to automatically discredit legitimate information before it can even be consumed.

I love how the term "fake news" completely blew up in their faces. This was their latest attempt at dissuading the masses from following alternative media sources.

They are being more cautious about being the pot calling the kettle black now.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Here's Corsi & Weldon:



Very brief.


Great video. Sounds like he has a treasure trove of coffin nails.



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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Not sure if the following link made it through all the post removals, but it's worth noting that even the Huffington Post is saying WTF with Hillary and Uranium One.

Looks like they are doing some fact checking on both sides of the issue anyway. Which makes them more credible than CNN.

Check it out:

Yes, Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid U.S. Russian Uranium Deal


...Furthermore, three FBI field offices wanted to investigate the Clinton Foundation. The Clinton Foundation has been the subject of quid pro quo controversies, from an AP reportto weapons deals. Last year’s AP Report states millions in donations correlated with access to America’s Secretary of State:

At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million.

If you replace Clinton with Trump in the story above, how would Washington Post journalists react? 85 people give $156 million to Trump’s foundation and nobody questions the transfer of money?
This story (if Trump were the subject) would spark outrage today. Instead, Vox and others defended Clinton and denied any possible conflict to interest.

As for the uranium deal (approved under an Obama administration that eventually sanctioned Russia for alleged election tampering), it’s similar to Clinton’s weapons deal scandal reported by the International Business Times. Read the International Business Times article titled Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton’s State Department.

Lots of hot links there to various news stories and outlets reporting on Clinton corruption---not just Uranium One.
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posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 01:43 AM
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a reply to: SeekingAlpha

I'm sure HuffPo is more to your liking. I linked that one right above you. There was an NYT article, too, should I link it?


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posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 02:54 AM
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a reply to: ColdWisdom

you are 100 percent correct sir!

it IS absolutely and definitely psychological PROJECTION being used as a WEAPON to discredit the opposition.

Its a brilliant tactic, old as the hills, and it works on a surprising number of people, especially those who are not familiar with the phenomenon.

Freud said it over 100 years ago. And here we are......still.

Will we EVER evolve????



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 05:40 AM
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a reply to: The GUT

Get a clue. I will not reward Jones's tactics by clicking on a link to his site that he has seeded on ATS without paying for it. If you can find a reputable source for the claims in the OP, please link to it. Yes, Clinton helped a Russian firm acquire uranium mines while the official policy towards Russia was to "reset." That is not a crime. If a former congressman has actual proof of wrongdoing, Infowars would not be the place to make his case. We now have an Attorney General appointed by by a man who gets energized by hearing hysterical crowds chant "lock her up!"



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 05:45 AM
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As you know mate that respect and friendship is reciprocated by me too you , you have opened my eyes perhaps more then anyone else on the site , so as it was you who asked I have read the Infowars article but did some digging of my own.

As the mainstay of the article is the involvement of Russian oligarch and Putin ally Viktor Vekselberg I decided to check out the key player for a wider overview.

Vekselberg's Renova Group is listed as a donor on the Clinton Foundation register of contributors.

Viktor Vekselberg also has close ties to Trumps Secretary of Commerce nominee Wilbur Ross , so much so that Ross is / was a business partner with Vekselberg.

But even though Trump the candidate asserted that Clinton's association-via-foundation with Vekselberg was a problem and a sign she was too cozy with Putin, Trump the president-elect has welcomed into his administration a businessman with a much tighter and more financially significant relationship with Vekselberg: Wilbur Ross, the billionaire investor who has specialized in distressed assets and who is now Trump's pick for commerce secretary.


For the past two years, Ross has been a business partner with Vekselberg in a major financial project involving the Bank of Cyprus, the country's largest and most significant financial institution. A financial crisis in 2013 led to the bank's collapse and eventual bailout. The bank had held billions in deposits from wealthy Russians—some of it presumably dirty money or funds deposited there to escape Russian taxation—and during its restructuring, a large amount of these deposits were converted into shares, giving Russian plutocrats a majority ownership (on paper) of the bank.


In October 2014, Wilbur Ross unveiled a new board of directors for the Bank of Cyprus. He would be one of the members of the board and so would Maksim Goldman, a Renova executive representing Vekselberg's interests. Also on this board was Vladimir Strzhalkovskiy, a previous board member whom Russia Today a year earlier had identified as a Putin associate and former KGB official. Ross and Vekselberg also recruited Josef Ackermann, a former head of Deutsche Bank, to come in as chairman. This was another Russian connection. As Bloomberg reported, "Ackermann, a regular visitor to the Putin-hosted St. Petersburg International Economic Forum while head of Deutsche Bank, is a director of Renova Management AG, an industrial holding company controlled by Vekselberg....


The Bank of Cyprus website currently lists Ross and Renova's Goldman as its vice chairmen, Strzhalkovskiy is no longer on the board, according to the website.(This year, he joined the board of an agriculture bank totally owned by the Russian government, according to SKRIN Market & Corporate News.)
www.motherjones.com...


I hope you are right and I am wrong but no matter how I look at it the ties between the Trump administration and Russia are many , I think the situation is a powder keg awaiting a spark and fear the repercussions when that spark occurs , we live in dangerous times mate.


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posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 05:48 AM
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The blaze covered the Bernie supporters...
I don't think they had boots on the ground and had extensive coverage but they did talk about how it was not right what was happening to them.

Voting times and districts changed without telling people etc (that I remember).

But yes the blaze covered it and even though they dispize socialism, they supported Bernie in that regard.

Graffik

Full disclosure.. I tuned out of all radio except espn since January 1 this year... politics still manages to sneak in their as well uuggghhh



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 07:09 AM
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Get a clue. I will not reward Jones's tactics by clicking on a link to his site that he has seeded on ATS without paying for it.


Quick question.

Do you pay to post here? I don't either.



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 07:18 AM
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There was a lot of print coverage of the #DNCLeaks and the rigging of the primaries for HRC. And there was a lot of print coverage of the behind the scenes meltdown at the DNC.

But infowars was there live with video on the ground all the time, at Debbie Schultz resignation, at the Bernie or Bust protest at the DNC in July, at virtually every major Trump rally in the US.

Infowars was there, man.



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 07:26 AM
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I hope you are right and I am wrong but no matter how I look at it the ties between the Trump administration and Russia are many , I think the situation is a powder keg awaiting a spark and fear the repercussions when that spark occurs


DC is the swamp so no surprise to find hold overs from the former regime showing up in the new one. Business is like people where there seems to be only a 6 degrees of separation .It may even be lower of a percentage for business .
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