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originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: UnBreakable
Are you under the impression that school lunches are mandatory?
No, I know they're not mandatory, Skippy. I believe in personal responsibility, and parents should lead the way. But a lot of parents are 'friends' than 'parents' to their children, and give the kids more free reign than they should get. Leave it up to the kid and most times they'll pick the most fat laden or sugar laden food. That's all I'm saying.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: UnBreakable
originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: UnBreakable
Are you under the impression that school lunches are mandatory?
No, I know they're not mandatory, Skippy. I believe in personal responsibility, and parents should lead the way. But a lot of parents are 'friends' than 'parents' to their children, and give the kids more free reign than they should get. Leave it up to the kid and most times they'll pick the most fat laden or sugar laden food. That's all I'm saying.
Shoot. I'm not against sugar, but we work pretty hard to keep the extra sugar out of our diet. We buy the natural peanut butter and the jelly that's just the fruit, pectin and juice, etc. There's plenty of natural sugar in a lot of foods that get extra sugar added.
A lot of foods have stuff added that shouldn't be. Ever try buying hot dogs that don't have corn syrup in them at the third or fourth ingredient on the list?
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
Then move to those countries or pack lunches for your kids.
1) Do you understand that when a person eats unhealthy food as a matter of course their palate changes? You cannot have children eat crap for two meals out of the day at home and most of their lives and them force feed them healthy stuff at school for a limited time and, because the school has a limited budget, healthy food that tastes like crap because it's the cheapest possible, and expect them to like it or want it or eat it.
2) In fact, what you are doing is reinforcing their belief that all health food tastes bad, so that they will be even LESS likely to ever want to eat food that's good for them.
3) Heck my nephews' school district went on Michelle O. rules for a couple years, and my sister cooks all their food mostly from scratch, whole food because she understands that it's more cost effective unlike a lot of people. They get healthy, home-cooked, real food. Those three boys never met a raw veggie they wouldn't slam down or a salad they didn't like, and THEY hated Michelle O's lunch rules. They always came home starving and they said the food stank.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
I think you are confusing young children for adults.. The law explicitly states that the teachers and schools are "in loco parentis," meaning in place of the parents, which is the exact legal framework which authorizes the educators to teach them, supervise them, and discipline them. Because the children are in their care, it is completely reasonable and legal for decisions such as healthy food versus non healthy food to be made for kids..
originally posted by: c2oden
It seems many are taking this opportunity to brag about how good of parents they are and not confronting the fact the program failed because the food sucked.
This isn't facebook and nobody cares what you feed your kids.
If the kids won't eat her lunch, her lunch program failed.
originally posted by: crazyewok
Make Merica fat(er) again!
originally posted by: bknapple32
So, really, all the kids were doing was loading up the trays with the free or discounted "approved food" and then tossing in the garbage. Eating what they could from the junk food being sold regardless as extras. Logically, we liberals have to stop and think here. The kids out smarted the system, rather simply. Its pointless. Let them serve whatever they want at this point. Maybe kids will go back to eating an actual meal instead of a bag of Doritos and a couple of cupcakes.
So TLDR: Converted liberal on this issue. Let them eat whatever the hell they want.
originally posted by: jellyrev
Healthy food isn't cheap.
I'm ok with taking away pop and fake juice. water costing money in a bottle is a joke.
Veggies taste like crap except when lathered in fat, salt, butter and meat.
IF you want children to eat healthy find a way to take away the pleasure of food.
Most weight gain I've seen of people I know myself included starts in late college, not in school.
originally posted by: ketsuko
A lot of school districts that ditched the Michelle O plan went with a district chef or dietitian. My nephews' district did this, and the school we use has an in-house cook who makes all their hot meals from scratch with organic stuff. I am not so worried about the food being organic, but I do like that it's all made small-batch onsite by someone whose own children are going to the school.
We usually do a mix of in-house meals and packed lunches from home.
originally posted by: Mandroid7
When I was in school, it was so nasty we looked forward to plastic flavored pizza day.
originally posted by: mikell
a reply to: ketsukoSchool lunches have always been that way. Parents who cared always packed their kids a lunch.
It's a funny thing though, this obesity epidemic is a more recent phenomena. Maybe if the schools really cared, they'd go back to active, free play recesses and active gym classes for all?
And perhaps the overall culture needs to be changed instead of forcing diet rules on every kid that presupposes the kid is obese to start with and needs a drastic weight loss and aims for that amount of caloric intake.
Are you saying go back to no rules dodge ball. Let the blood and zit juice run.
originally posted by: IcyPatriot
When I was in high school in the 70's we could buy hamburgers, hot dogs, french fries, hot weiners, meatball sandwhiches, grinders ... ahh good times. I was 6' tall ...110 pounds soaking wet and I could pound 6 hot weiners and 2 cokes with ease.
originally posted by: Tardacus
originally posted by: mikell
a reply to: ketsukoSchool lunches have always been that way. Parents who cared always packed their kids a lunch.
It's a funny thing though, this obesity epidemic is a more recent phenomena. Maybe if the schools really cared, they'd go back to active, free play recesses and active gym classes for all?
And perhaps the overall culture needs to be changed instead of forcing diet rules on every kid that presupposes the kid is obese to start with and needs a drastic weight loss and aims for that amount of caloric intake.
Are you saying go back to no rules dodge ball. Let the blood and zit juice run.
and there it is right there!
when I went to school we had an hour every day of gym class for the whole school year (9 months), when my daughters went to school they had 1 hour of gym class 3 days a week for 3 months.
people don`t get fat from eating too many calories they get fat from not using enough calories.
if you eat the government recommended calories per day but sit and doing nothing every day you will get fat,if you eat the government recommended calories every day but do a lot of physical activity every day you will lose weight.
there are no 'unhealthy" foods if eaten in moderation and combined with physical activity.
all foods are unhealthy if you pig out and do no physical activity.