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Sweden on the brink? Police force pushed to breaking point by violence amid migrant influx

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posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: Mclaneinc
People act like this is so totally new news, Sweden has been in a mire since days after letting all these people in and its been a victim of its own liberal values which is a shame because I admire what they used to be as a country but time has changed, people no longer just move about the globe for fun or adventure, now we have benefit tourism, health tourism, religious culture harvesting and the like.

Sweden's problem was that they cared and felt that people should have the same laid back safe life they had, its a wonderful ideal but while a certain amount of these people are indeed looking for a new life, some wishing to get away from the savage cultural bondage they have been in but sadly crime and the wish to spread a radicalised Islam by fear and cultural culling of the host country are now at horrendous levels that the news simply refuses to show.

The police in these places have never had to face this sort of violence and social unrest, their leaders continue to publicly not acknowledge the problems so they can show their progressive ideals, ideals that are destroying the fabric of these countries that do not firmly start putting a foot down on these happening. Sound a bit sensationalist, possibly but its the actual truth, these countries have tried to be the good host, when that failed they tried to accept and conform to these people but THAT didn't work and now you have these no go / ghettos (for the pedantic) where there's zero cultural mix, zero cultural integration and crass wrong doings on a daily basis so yes the Police can't deal with it and walk out but the fact that the government here are looking for 4,00 NEW police is shocking, this is clearly linked to these newly arrived people and while the open door policy remains this will get worse and worse.

Look at our politicians everywhere, before they would not even mention the word Muslim and certainly NEVER in the same line as terrorist which is fair as there are countless very nice normal Muslims here but the terms are slowly changing, Radical is now a common word, terrorist / terrorism, a common word, and finally we start to get Radical Islam being mentioned, sadly its all a bit late to be actually bothering to point out the biggest cause of concern across Europe and indeed the world in general, Radical Islam IS the biggest issue and its not going anywhere soon, these countries including Britain are breeding grounds for it which is no surprise as we accept so many people from these countries on the hope they will check their DEVOTION to a radicalised version of Islam at the passport gate.

Stupid....For the sake of every other person in these countries we HAVE to come down hard on these radicals, remove, imprison, whatever because life for everyone else who they consider kuffar which also includes normal Muslims is getting harder and the signs of radicalism are showing more and more daily on our streets.

Sweden will be engulfed sooner rather than later, France and German amongst others hide their issues while echoing how OK it is, well just go and ask the actual people in the country...Its not...


Very balanced and from someone with experience of the specific question. Thank you. Should be a thread of it's own, Sir.
Add a pic or two and it's pretty much already written, eh?




posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: uncommitted




When did I say anyone should be forced into following other cultures? Why are you twisting words to fit your agenda? Why are you and the other white supremacist making this about skin colour? Why don't you grow up?


But another culture is being forced upon us, and you are obviously supporting this situation.

It is not about skin color, it's about preservation of the native people, and their culture. These people happen to be white Europeans.

I am not saying at all that one race is better than the other. I just don't want my country and my people to lose their identity and I am completely morally justified to have this view.

But keep throwing that racist card, it has lost its intended effect anyway.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: Felicio
a reply to: LardoCalorissian




Ok, I take back the traitor comment, if you truly believe that you are. Then I would say that you are just a.....NaiveNative


Why you persist in trying to identify me with one word for my thoughts over this matter is beyond me.


You are surprised that someone responded to an opinion you posted on a discussion forum?

I felt that my earlier comment was a bit too harsh, so instead of calling you a traitor, I am calling your viewpoint naive.

And you are a native Dutch, right? I mean if you aren't then off course you would have a different point of view.
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posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: thomasgby




Yes, there are problems with immigration in Sweden, and Sweden has now essientially closed the borders to new immigrants. Too many people and to few ideas on how to integrate them into Swedish society in a meaningful way.


So you acknowledge that there is a problem, and it is not being resolved.




About police officers resigning. During the last couple of years Sweden has made a huge reorganisation of the police force. It was an administrative issue. The idea was to relieve police officers of administrative work, instead let them focus on actual police work. However, the reorganisation has so far been a big failure. Many officers are critical. It's not an immigration issue.


They quit because they aren't given the tools to stop all the trouble caused by the immigration issue.




Someone above wrote that Sweden is ruled by direct democracy. Eh, what?


What do you mean exactly?



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: Waalter




1. The Police is quitting due to a reorganization that made the police work harder and switching bosses every 2 months. They lost faith in their work. Has nothing to do with immigrants.


Yes it does, they have less means and more to do because of immgrants.


Emergency service workers have been targets for attacks in Sweden for years but many fear that the attacks are becoming more frequent and potentially more deadly.

On Tuesday last week a female police officer was stabbed by residents in Boras while she was responding to a complaint that young men were setting off fireworks and starting fires in the area. During the event one police car was damaged and several officers were attacked, by what the Swedish media refer to as “youths”.

Firefighters have had stones thrown at them in neighbourhoods in Linkoping, and on Monday night seven cars were set on fire in Norrkoping. Norrkoping police officer Ronnie Dahlqvist told Swedish media: “We have tried to take preventive measures, but as soon as we leave the area they continue. You feel a bit helpless sometimes”.



Officer Dahlqvist explained that the police were afraid that if they crack down on the young men the situation would escalate, such as during the 2013 Stockholm riots. Following these attacks police now have to secure an area before fire fighters or paramedics can enter.

Of the 14 no-go zones, or “troublesome areas”, listed in the report some have already made headlines such as Husby where recently a Norwegian camera crew were attacked while filming a noted Swedish economist. In another, Rinkeby, an Australian TV crew were attacked by migrant youths and run over with a car. Only days ago a police officer was almost assaulted while giving a TV interview by a man on a moped who sped toward him in a Stockholm suburb.




Deputy local police chief in Botkyrka, south of Stockholm, Patrik Sverin described the worst incident of violence that occurred in August last year when a hand grenade was thrown at a police van saying the incident made many officers want to leave the force.

“Most officers were affected after the grenade hit; we did what we could to get all of our staff to go out and do the same job again,” he said. When the case came to court all of the defendants in the case were acquitted, though there is an ongoing appeal.

Biljana Flyberg, a female police officer, confirmed that attacks on officers are a common occurrence. She stated that the migrant youths deliberately attack them: “They lead us into the field, trying to get us to hunt them. Then we are led to an area where there are groups of stone-throwers.”






Get your facts straight. Immigrant criminality is 1% of all crimes committed if you belive recent statistics, but I don't think you care about that. I think you just want to grasp at those small and utterly BS stories that has nothing to do with reality so


If you believe them.


While the media in Sweden refuse to discuss migrant gangs, the former police superintendent in the town of Malmo, Torsten Elofsson, did not hold back when he told Breitbart London: “Of the number of people arrested and dragged into police stations, the majority are of foreign origin to be honest. There is an over-representation of violent crimes committed by people from other countries.


www.breitbart.com...


These are just some examples of this epidemic.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: frenchfries

I don't necessarily deny it, I just like to question what I'm being told. I'm sorry this website no longer encourages that.

Sweden has had domestic problems for a while now (just like USA, no?), I'd just like to see more convincing evidence that the trouble is being caused by purely by refugees/muslims.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: Messias
a reply to: seasonal

Im from Sweden.. and i have to say.. WHAT THE F%&$* ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Crist you people are completely crazy!!! Seriously!!! STOP MAKING STUF UP!


So where do you Swedes live? Somewhere in the woods? I suppose that people living in the countryside don't face the same problems as those living in the cities. It's the same here in the Netherlands.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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NO go zones?

Wait I remember this when I was in the Coast Guard! I volunteered for the Pasquotank-Camden county rescue squad to get EMT experience for my Coast Guard work because the rescue squad got more calls for assistance than the Air Station did.

There were areas that the ambulance was not allowed to go without a police escort. Guess which color or race the people were who lived in those areas were.

There weren't any white no go zones, even if they whites were poor or rural they were fairly well behaved to an ambulance offering emergency assistance.
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posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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The globalists are trying to destroy states and to topple governments and are using unchecked immigration to do it. You'll see terrorism and violence escalate and their response will be to use authoritarian power to cow the people and to force people into a police state.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 10:00 PM
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originally posted by: Waalter
a reply to: everyone

I'm also from Sweden and this is BS.
Let me clarify:

1. The Police is quitting due to a reorganization that made the police work harder and switching bosses every 2 months. They lost faith in their work. Has nothing to do with immigrants.

2. This "swedistan" that I see going on, on the internet is everyone except swedish people. Nobody in Sweden see this as extreme as you do. Look at your ghettos. Your rate of killing/raping each other per capita far exceeds what's going om here.

3. The video shows our 1 of our 2 ghettos. TWO ghettos, not 52.. Have no idea where this numbers comes from and cant find a swedish source for this at all.

Get your facts straight. Immigrant criminality is 1% of all crimes committed if you belive recent statistics, but I don't think you care about that. I think you just want to grasp at those small and utterly BS stories that has nothing to do with reality so you can justify your idiot of a presidents speeches.


All these brand new accounts popping up and they are all from sweden denying it. Even though there is video footage of it everywhere.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: LardoCalorissian

Clearly. Liberals just don't understand how things work.

Notice it's never "racist" when a white Westerner moves to a Middle Eastern nation and has to abide by their laws and their culture. Skin color doesn't play into it.



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:00 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: LardoCalorissian

Clearly. Liberals just don't understand how things work.

Notice it's never "racist" when a white Westerner moves to a Middle Eastern nation and has to abide by their laws and their culture. Skin color doesn't play into it.


It is only racist if we criticize muslims for spitting and urinating on our flag and when we refuse to wear hajibs and niqabs.

Victoria's secret 2020:



posted on Feb, 21 2017 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: Waalter
a reply to: everyone

I'm also from Sweden and this is BS.
Let me clarify:

1. The Police is quitting due to a reorganization that made the police work harder and switching bosses every 2 months. They lost faith in their work. Has nothing to do with immigrants.

2. This "swedistan" that I see going on, on the internet is everyone except swedish people. Nobody in Sweden see this as extreme as you do. Look at your ghettos. Your rate of killing/raping each other per capita far exceeds what's going om here.

3. The video shows our 1 of our 2 ghettos. TWO ghettos, not 52.. Have no idea where this numbers comes from and cant find a swedish source for this at all.

Get your facts straight. Immigrant criminality is 1% of all crimes committed if you belive recent statistics, but I don't think you care about that. I think you just want to grasp at those small and utterly BS stories that has nothing to do with reality so you can justify your idiot of a presidents speeches.


All these brand new accounts popping up and they are all from sweden denying it. Even though there is video footage of it everywhere.




I spoke to a group of people today from Europe while i was at the beach, 3 of the young guys were from Sweden, i asked them what they thought of the media reports about the immigrant trouble and they laughed and told me its not factual.

They basically said it was a small issue and nothing that could not be dealt with, the media as usual are making a mountain out of mole hill. The media have a habit of sensationalizing stories because thats what sells, if they were factual in their reporting, nobody would be interested in the story because it is boring.



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: Waalter
a reply to: everyone

I'm also from Sweden and this is BS.
Let me clarify:

1. The Police is quitting due to a reorganization that made the police work harder and switching bosses every 2 months. They lost faith in their work. Has nothing to do with immigrants.

2. This "swedistan" that I see going on, on the internet is everyone except swedish people. Nobody in Sweden see this as extreme as you do. Look at your ghettos. Your rate of killing/raping each other per capita far exceeds what's going om here.

3. The video shows our 1 of our 2 ghettos. TWO ghettos, not 52.. Have no idea where this numbers comes from and cant find a swedish source for this at all.

Get your facts straight. Immigrant criminality is 1% of all crimes committed if you belive recent statistics, but I don't think you care about that. I think you just want to grasp at those small and utterly BS stories that has nothing to do with reality so you can justify your idiot of a presidents speeches.


All these brand new accounts popping up and they are all from sweden denying it. Even though there is video footage of it everywhere.




I spoke to a group of people today from Europe while i was at the beach, 3 of the young guys were from Sweden, i asked them what they thought of the media reports about the immigrant trouble and they laughed and told me its not factual.

They basically said it was a small issue and nothing that could not be dealt with, the media as usual are making a mountain out of mole hill. The media have a habit of sensationalizing stories because thats what sells, if they were factual in their reporting, nobody would be interested in the story because it is boring.

Well as a Swede that's neither on a beach (sigh... it's snow outside) or got a new account, the media is most definetly overblowing the situation *but* the police is actually in a pretty dire situation. That is a well known fact that's been reported about for years in Swedish news. Swedish police is also heavily moderated, them firing their guns is portrayed like the beginning of WW3 so of course when it happens... I remember this funny article last year when there was a news report on 20 people being rowdy, a police car came on the scene and tried to calm them down but they had to fall back. No one was hurt. In the US we'd probably see news of 10 people dead. I really wouldnt mind a little harder approach.

Immigrants, Swedes, blondes riding polarbears I dont care who they are - people have far less respect for each other (and law enforcement) than they have ever had. Either that or I am getting old.



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 01:01 AM
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Immigrants, Swedes, blondes riding polarbears I dont care who they are - people have far less respect for each other (and law enforcement) than they have ever had. Either that or I am getting old.


This is a common theme across the globe sadly.

No doubt immigrants have increased societal issues in Sweden, it is just not as sensationalized as the media spins it and really people especially on this site should know better.



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 01:10 AM
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To accept things at their face value means an "alliance" after WW2 where liberalism towards migrants is used as a device to provoke a counter revolution-backlash intended to usher in the 4th Reich.

Operation Paperclip on steroids. It also explains why the Left has such an aversion to Russia, it's natural ....ally?



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 02:36 AM
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originally posted by: twfau
a reply to: frenchfries

I don't necessarily deny it, I just like to question what I'm being told. I'm sorry this website no longer encourages that.

Sweden has had domestic problems for a while now (just like USA, no?), I'd just like to see more convincing evidence that the trouble is being caused by purely by refugees/muslims.


Good point ... question everything ! And indeed itś true sweden has had domestic problems for a while. But some refugees are really agressive towards the Swedish population and that is a new problem isn't it.

Convincing evidence ? Well huh youŕe right but 'convincing evidence' is a subjective thingy isn't it ?

For me the evidence is clear because I witnessed the behaviour of refugees against western women first hand several times. Upload vids (evidence) gets deleted on FB and ATS doesn't serve Tarahush. Police has his orders (at least in the Netherlands). Speak out in talkshows (The Netherlands) and you're a racist ?! So it finally comes down that the problem is swept under the Rug.

The only bit of 'convincing evidence' for the masses I see here is it if mainstream media is changing itś narrative. And that is exactly what president Trump is doing by mentioning Sweden ! ...

You don't have to believe me but Europa has a big 'refugee' problem. Part of that problem I've witnessed myself.



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t




The term "No-Go Zone" is political buzzword (sensationalism)


can you prove that ?



posted on Feb, 22 2017 @ 06:55 AM
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I spoke to a group of people today from Europe while i was at the beach, 3 of the young guys were from Sweden, i asked them what they thought of the media reports about the immigrant trouble and they laughed and told me its not factual.


Nice anecdote.

On the other hand there are Swedish police chiefs that actually exist saying that there is a big immigrant problem. For instance.

How is it overblown by media, when in fact the media is largely silent on this?




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