TRUMPs "East of Sweden" remark could be realtime "photoshop"

originally posted by: Simon1967
I understand nothing that is happening anymore it's all fake, fake, fake.

Please don't give up! The truth is out there; it just requires a bit more critical thinking than in the past.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: CulturalResilience

Did anyone else catch the unintentional and hilarious irony there? "Democracy requires us to respect science, facts AND THE MEDIA.

That's not irony, that's a fact.

The implied suggestion, whether intentional or not, in that statement is that the media is separate from fact/science. So the irony is there writ large for those with eyes to see.

originally posted by: brutus61

I wish this this was the mud pit so I could dissect the messenger but since it is not, I will simply ask: have you ever misspoke yourself? Ms. Conway misspoke herself. What is the big deal with that?

P.S. If you answer no I will call you a liar. Mud Pit or not!

This administration mis-speaks A LOT. We can only use that excuse so many times before it grows bigly old.

a reply to: Reverbs

Not sure is this piece is legit or accurate How Europe's most liberal nation gagged its own people on migration attacks: The Swedish conspiracy to hide the truth about the refugee influx Its a old piece from last march

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... gee-influx.html#ixzz4ZEdH6YWg

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Reverbs

The simple fact of the matter is that Donald Trump is incapable of forming a coherent sentence. His thoughts leapfrog all over the place. His inability to express himself clearly is a clue that he is neurologically unfit to be President.

Ohh ok..



8 years... ahhuh.. and well, considering what good has happened happened this year alone, under this unfit president, after 8 years and more of incompetence.

You really have no leg to stand on...

a reply to: galien8


Uh, no! It was just him being stupid, as usual. Otherwise he would not have tried to cover up his stupidity with a TWITTER response. Also someone had created a thread about this face rec tech the other day.

a reply to: galien8

Trump is in fact, stupid, confused and crazy though. He did say this and honestly, along with all of the other 'non facts' in his collection, this fit in very well.

After Trump’s ‘Last night in Sweden’: Here are the errors in Fox News' report on Swedish immigration

With a very lucid and unclear reference to an occurrence on Friday night, Donald Trump is using Sweden as a discouraging example.

What the president in fact referred to was a report on the conservative news channel Fox News. He has since confirmed it on Twitter.

However, the video broadcasted by Fox contains many errors and exaggerations. Here is the real story.

Is it about a big meatball theft? Or perhaps a reaction from American tourists who thought they had visited Switzerland?

Since Donald Trump mentioned an unspecified occurrence in Sweden on Friday night, social media exploded with more or less funny explanations of what he might have referred to.
Mentions 2010 attack

What the President might have meant when he linked the terror attacks in Nice, Paris and Brussels with the mystical incident in Sweden was on Sunday night long a mystery.

But right before 11pm, local time in Sweden, Trump himself on Twitter confirmed he was referring to a report from ‘Tucker Carson Tonight’, on the conservative Fox News, the favorite network of the President.

On Friday night, an interview with the filmmaker Ami Horowitz was broadcasted. He had done a report about the effects of how Sweden welcomes refugees in Sweden.

Horowitz interviewed a journalist and two police officers. Amidst a background of dramatic music, they spoke about social problems, conflicts and rising crime, all alleged to have been a result from the wave of refugees.

At the end of the report Ami Horowitz claims “it was not long ago the first Islamic terror attack occurred in the country”. He is probably referring to the suicide attack of Taimour Abdulwahab in the center of Stockholm that occurred more than six years ago on December 11, 2010.
Many errors

But that’s not the only strange thing in the interview with Horowitz. The conversation is full of sweeping statements, exaggerations and – clear errors.

Here is what the filmmaker says about Sweden – and what parts are true:

Weapons crime and rapes have risen since Sweden opened its borders.

According to the authorities (statistics from Brå – Brottsförebyggande rådets nationella trygghetsundersökning) 13 percent of the Swedish population was subject to a criminal act in 2015.

In comparison with 2014 that’s an increase, but approximately the same as 2005. According to a report from Brå 2015, leathal violence has decreased in Sweden the past years.

In 2015, 85 100 cases of assault were reported to the police. That is a two percent increase compared to the year before.

Also 2015, there were 5 290 reported rapes, a 12 percent decrease compared to 2014.

The police have a special code for incidents where migrants are involved. Thomas Wallberg, commander in chief at the national police headquarters, has been quoted in the Swedish Daily Dagens Nyheter stating refugees are involved only in a few of the police matters in Sweden.

Refugees are behind the rise of crime, but authorities are not disclosing theses facts.

There are no statistics to support this statement. When it comes to people being convicted for crimes, Brå does not regularly investigate their ethnicity. On the other hand, there is a report from 2005 that shows that people born outside of Sweden are more likely to be suspects in crimes compared to people being born in Sweden. According to the liberal web site Migrationsinfo.se, it has to do with conditions related to their home country, standard of living in Sweden and discrimination within the court system.

160 000 refugees arrived in Sweden 2016.

30 000 applied for refugee status in Sweden last year. The year before, however, 163 000 applied for asylum.

Of the refuges that arrived in Sweden 2016, only 500 are working.

According to the Migration Department, only 494 of the refuges that arrived in Sweden last year have got a job. It depended – among other things – on the fact that the authorities didn’t prioritize employment when the wave of immigrants was at its peak.

In addition to residence and education, the asylum seekers are receiving one of the state’s most generous financial allowances.

Asylum seekers without assets or an employment might get financial assistance. Per day, per adult, it varies from 19 to 71 Swedish kronor (US equvivalent 2.15 to 8 dollars). The maximum sum per month is 2 201 Swedish kronor (250 US dollars).

The national norm for allowance per adult per month is approximately 4 000 Swedish kronor. For asylum seekers, the Migration Department is also offering housing. The same offering – and education – is given to children applying for asylum.

There are no-go zones in vulnerable suburbs where the police don’t want to enter because it’s “too dangerous”.

In February 2016, the police released a report listing the most vulnerable suburbs in Sweden. That was the beginning of the term “no go-zones” being used. But it wasn’t used in the report, and it’s not true the police are too afraid to enter these areas.
Aftonbladet

a reply to: Reverbs

Sounds like something or someone is messing with your browser or internet, good luck!

We Christians and Muslims got to learn to live together, or go down together (down the rabbit hole, apocalypse, destruction of the world) there are already two major powers that have Doomsday Machines OK they can cause a cold World War (fragile peace, however PEACE) when the Muslims also get one, then there is equilibrium of forces in all major powers and the four wind directions

Looks like Trump may not be telling as many lies as the MSM says.

Like many of Trumps comments "East of Sweden" is open to interpretation.
Perhaps we are "three sheets to the wind"?
I seem to remember a similar remark concerning Sweden, Finland and Germany in that order expressed to explain events during or shortly after WW2.

originally posted by: mikegrouchy
Some actions only require the alteration of Audio.

no thats funny

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: galien8

Have Trump supporters become so desperate that they want to believe the stupid things he has been saying live and in person for the past fifty years are somehow "photoshopped?"

Give that guy some slack, or I give it right back

originally posted by: Simon1967
I understand nothing that is happening anymore it's all fake, fake, fake.

Yes always think: can be true and cannot be true, take both scenarios in to account, plan your life this way, I know is difficult, but can be done, this is the new (ab)normal ;-)

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Reverbs

Umm it was what happened " last night" in Sweden.
Don't leave out the "last night" part so it fits your narrative. That's cheating.

OK

a reply to: DerBeobachter

"last night"can mean any time in the (recent) past? more a kind of proverb?

originally posted by: Slichter
Like many of Trumps comments "East of Sweden" is open to interpretation.
Perhaps we are "three sheets to the wind"?
I seem to remember a similar remark concerning Sweden, Finland and Germany in that order expressed to explain events during or shortly after WW2.

...und wenn ein Kind nicht mehr lacht wie Kind dann sind Whir jenseits van Sweden...

originally posted by: galien8
a reply to: Reverbs

Sounds like something or someone is messing with your browser or internet, good luck!

We Christians and Muslims got to learn to live together, or go down together (down the rabbit hole, apocalypse, destruction of the world) there are already two major powers that have Doomsday Machines

OK they can cause a cold World War (fragile peace, however PEACE) when the Muslims also get one, then there is equilibrium of forces in all major powers and the four wind directions

Muslims have nukes you goof..

Did you forget about India and Pakistan?

It's not a muslim issue so much as a war torn country with CIA and SF teams teaching people how to blow up tanks with c4 and arming people with shoulder launched anti air missiles to fight russians..
Drone strikes, government overthrows.. Sanctions..

THATS what makes these countries dangerous.

Don't get it confused. Muslims in those other countries are not gunning for America.. And it has nothing to do with our freedoms lol.


And for anyone still thinking.. I already proved my point on what Trump said. You can disagree, I'm not the end all be all on truth. But I already said all I have to say about that.

Don't let people confuse issues.

EVERY country that exports terrorism has been blown up or sanctioned or economic terrorism target or was part of the contras, or had their leader assassinated, or attempted.. They've had their babies blown up.. And they know who to blame but they have no way of expressing it.. Some feel this is their only option..




recap.. Multiple muslim countries have nukes.

originally posted by: Reverbs

Muslims have nukes you goof..

...thats the Duke with the nukes...

OK some wash machines turned into nuclear missiles, but not yet complete Doomsday Machine systems, you MF...

a reply to: galien8

What? What did you say? Last night could mean any time in the recent past?

I just can't argue with this kind of disconnect.