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Pope Francis a Puppet of George Soros

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posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 03:09 AM
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Pope Francis recently visited California to give a message of encouragement to "popular movements" in a conference held in California on February 17th. Quoting one of Pope Francis statements :


...“Here are the roots of the authentic humanity that resists the dehumanization that wears the livery of indifference, hypocrisy, or intolerance.”
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The conference held in Modesto, California was organized with "the support of the Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development, the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, and the PICO National Network." But unbeknownst to many of these same people, the PICO network was one of two recipients (the other recipient was Faith in Public Life, now notice their mantra as being a source of "justice, compassion and the common good) of a grant of George Soro's Foundation for $650,000 U.S.D. for the sole purpose "to use Pope Francis’ U.S. visit to shift the priorities of the Catholic Church in the United States 'to be a voice on behalf of the poor and communities of color.' "


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The Feb. 16-18 conference being held in Modesto, about 30 miles southeast of Stockton, was organized with the support of the Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development, the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, and the PICO National Network.

The PICO network was a recipient of part of a $650,000 grant from George Soros' Open Society Foundations. Documents from the foundations posted to DCLeaks.com claimed the grant was part of a strategy to use Pope Francis U.S. visit to shift the priorities of the Catholic Church in the United Statesto be a voice on behalf of the poor and communities of color.

“PICO and FPL have been able to use their engagement in the opportunity of the Pope’s visit to seed their position in the long-term project of shifting the priorities of the U.S. Catholic Church to focus on issues of injustice and oppression,” the memo said.
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www.catholicnewsagency.com...

Soros’ Catholic useful idiots. Faith-based groups stray when accepting progressive cash

Buried within Pope Francis message you'll find the very same mantra that liberal billionaire George Soros has used in other countries to further this globalist' goals. A message about "the common good" "social justice" and attacks at "The economic system that has the god of money at its center", which is another phrase to attack "Capitalism".

Isn't ironic that the pope lauds "the evil of money" yet the Vatican is one of the richest "nations" on the planet?


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What we do know is that Vatican Bank, officially titled the Institute for the Works of Religion, manages €5.9bn ($7.3bn, £4.64bn) of assets on behalf of its 17,400 customers. And it manages €700m of equity which it owns. Another titbit to emerge is that it keeps gold reserves worth over $20m with the US Federal Reserve.

The bank has been caught up in a number of scandals in the past, including the funding of priests caught up in sex abuse allegations and of money laundering for the Mafia and former Nazis.
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How rich is the Vatican? So wealthy it can stumble across millions of euros just 'tucked away'

Here we have, the head of one of the smallest "nation-states", which is richer than many nations bigger than the Vatican, and has a "small and lethal private army", yet the pope constantly attacks money, even though his "nation-state" (Vatican) is filthy rich and has a history of scandals including money laundering for the Mafia and former Nazis?

Hypocrisy indeed.


edit on 19-2-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.




posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 03:43 AM
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The article says the information was coughed up recently by WikiLeaks as if that is enough to prove the allegations. There is no link or directions on how to find this information in the sea of Wilileaks and no picture of the information itself. One would think that a reputable news source in this day and age of 'fake news' especially one that prides itself on being a conservative news source would not be so vague making such accusations without further substantiation.

Oh wait. It's the Washington Times. You know them. That is the newspaper that is owned by the Unification Church, purchased a long time ago by Sun Myung Moon, the Korean Messiah. The fellow who his followers believe that he is the Second Coming of Christ and ordained by God Himself to bring about the kingdom of Heaven on Earth.

So i will wait to find this Wikileaks information coming from another source, one with more reputable credentials than that of a rag like this Moonie Mouthpiece.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Supporting info and links were given in the OP. But if you need more corroborating evidence you should have tried to find it yourself. Unless the whole point of your response was to simply attack the messenger itself.

Link

Here, you need the info chewed for you, it's on page 15.

If clicking the link is too much hard work for you, here an excerpt of page 15 having to deal with this.


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Pope Francis Visit - $650,000 (USP)
Pope Francis’ first visit to the United States in September will include a historic address to Congress, a speech at the United Nations, and a visit to Philadelphia for the “World Meeting of Families.” In order to seize this moment, we will support PICO’s organizing activities to engage the Pope on economic and racial justice issues, including using the influence of Cardinal Rodriguez, the Popes senior advisor, and sending a delegation to visit the Vatican in the spring or summer to allow him to hear directly from low-income Catholics in America The grant will also support FPL’s media, framing, and public opinion activities, including conducting a poll to demonstrate that Catholic voters are responsive to the Pope’s focus on income inequality, and earning media coverage that drives the message that being “pro-family” requires addressing growing inequality. By harnessing the Papal visit to lift up the Pope’s searing critique of what he calls “an economy of exclusion and inequality” and his dismissal of “trickle down” theories, PICO and FPL will work to build a bridge to a larger conversation about bread-and-butter economic concerns and shift national paradigms and priorities in the run-up to the 2016 presidential campaign.
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I wonder what your next derail attempt will be.
edit on 19-2-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: correct link.

edit on 19-2-2017 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment and excerpt.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Don't have time to write much now other than to say it's larger than Pope Francis and to me the question is what threats were levied against Pope Bemedict and the Catholic Church prior to Pope Francis.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Your 'supporting links' do not support the wikileaks the Times article alludes to. I looked and looked. One would think that if you have the ability to add links to your post that the Times do also, yet, where are those links to the wikileaks information.

And I checked out the CNA link you graciously provided and found no mention there of the Pope being a Puppet of Soros. I did find the quote you posted where they mentioned their plans to "engage the Pope" during his US visit. That to my mind is a far cry from the Pope being a stooge for anyone.

I do not need corroborating evidence when in fact the major article offers no evidence in the first place, just conjecture. When I am presented with nothing more than conjecture that presents itself as fact, I question the source of that conjecture. In this case it was the Times and that we know about. A hack publication owned by a lunatic cult.

So, how did I 'deflect'. You present an outrageous headline defaming the Pope with dubious 'evidence' and I countered suggesting that you had not offered 'evidence to back your headline. How is that deflecting? By questioning the article you yourself provided?

Did you stop to think for a moment that there could be another conspiracy in this? That the Moonies have as a stated goal establishing their own brand of heaven on earth with their 'messiah' in the central roll? As their teachings call for the eventual demise of Christianity as more and more people turn to the cults teachings. To this end it is well within conjecture that they would promote dissatisfaction with the Pope to weaken Catholic faith in the Pope.

If any one has deflected here is is you.


Supporting info and links were given in the OP.


Yet I found no supporting info, just other info that does not support the headline that the Pope is a Puppet of Soros.



But if you need more corroborating evidence you should have tried to find it yourself.

But I did not need more 'corroborating evidence' as the 'evidence' you offered was flimsy and insubstantial at best , so why should I have tried to find it for myself?


Unless the whole point of your response was to simply attack the messenger itself.


What messenger? You, or the Times. Did I attack you? I think not, but tell me how I did and we can discuss that if you like. The Times? Oh you betcha. I will attack that lunatic cult rag any time I find them offering bias as fact, you know, fake news and all.

But if one were looking for signs of 'attack' one might offer an example like your above insinuations. Or...


Here, you need the info chewed for you

Insinuating I am too lazy to chew my own food


If clicking the link is too much hard work for you

Again, insinuating I am too lazy to ''study the facts'' so you will spoon feed me.
And finally
I wonder what your next derail attempt will be.

So you see it was not I that deflected your thread, it was you. You deflected into attacking me. And why? Because my consideration of the whole issue was different from yours.

But here is the thing Ele, if I were trying to deflect or attack you it would be something like this

I don't know you from Adam. But here is the thing. We conjecture a lot around here about shills, about people who come here under the guise of discussion but rather than that they come with ulterior motives. Infiltrators intent on memes to suit their own agendas. Is it such a stretch to suppose that Moonies (among so many others) would come here to do this?

A few months ago there was a new member who showed up with a wonderfully diverse introduction. He expressed great interest in all our forums and offered a wide background in many of them and looked forward to being an active member of ATS. I noticed the name he used and asked an innocent question about that name because to me it was a name that a Moonie might use.

A day later I found a reply to my own introduction from 2011. In my introduction I had made passing reference to my time of having been caught up in the Moonies in the early 70s. That new member was never heard from again.

So, as I do not know you from Adam, who is to say who you are really, or for that matter, who am I really. All we have to go on is gleaning what we can from posts. From this post alone, I might conjecture that you yourself are a Moonie.
You made up an inflammatory headline about the Pope, an action that a Moonie might do. You offered flimsy and unrelated 'evidence' to the headline, an action that a Moonie might take. You offer a Moonie rag as evidence for your headline.You then go on to attack me making accusations to defame me, an action a Moonie would take to quell disagreement. So, are you a Moonie? Most likely not, but, as your whole post demonstrates a loose interpretation of 'facts' it is a possibility.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire


You did deflect and derail, the original excerpt came from the catholic news agency not from Washingtontimes... Do you understand that?.

This excerpt.


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The Feb. 16-18 conference being held in Modesto, about 30 miles southeast of Stockton, was organized with the support of the Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development, the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, and the PICO National Network.

The PICO network was a recipient of part of a $650,000 grant from George Soros' Open Society Foundations. Documents from the foundations posted to DCLeaks.com claimed the grant was part of a strategy to use Pope Francis U.S. visit to shift the priorities of the Catholic Church in the United Statesto be a voice on behalf of the poor and communities of color.

“PICO and FPL have been able to use their engagement in the opportunity of the Pope’s visit to seed their position in the long-term project of shifting the priorities of the U.S. Catholic Church to focus on issues of injustice and oppression,” the memo said.
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www.catholicnewsagency.com...

Came from the website "catholicnewsagency". Then you went on your tirade against the Washington times to try to dismiss this thread.

Then, you went on another false red herring claiming the wikileaks does not support this assesment.


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Pope Francis Visit - $650,000 (USP)
Pope Francis’ first visit to the United States in September will include a historic address to Congress, a speech at the United Nations, and a visit to Philadelphia for the “World Meeting of Families.” In order to seize this moment, we will support PICO’s organizing activities to engage the Pope on economic and racial justice issues, including using the influence of Cardinal Rodriguez, the Popes senior advisor, and sending a delegation to visit the Vatican in the spring or summer to allow him to hear directly from low-income Catholics in America The grant will also support FPL’s media, framing, and public opinion activities, including conducting a poll to demonstrate that Catholic voters are responsive to the Pope’s focus on income inequality, and earning media coverage that drives the message that being “pro-family” requires addressing growing inequality. By harnessing the Papal visit to lift up the Pope’s searing critique of what he calls “an economy of exclusion and inequality” and his dismissal of “trickle down” theories, PICO and FPL will work to build a bridge to a larger conversation about bread-and-butter economic concerns and shift national paradigms and priorities in the run-up to the 2016 presidential campaign.
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Link

But it is clear in the wikileaks that the money was to use the influence of the pope, and cardinal Rodriguez to "promote economic and social justice". Which these days is double speak for "wealth redistribution" and "changing the politics of the U.S. towards a more hard left view", which is what globalists like Soros want and have been promoting all over the globe.

Your whole arguments is a red herring, and a derailment. The evidence corroborates the op. Stop it with the derails and red herrings.

Oh, and btw, please stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking if you are going to respond in threads. It meddles with your head too much and you post too much nonsense. I am not a "Moonie" (not even sure what the heck a Moonie is) and really have no idea what you are talking about "your time in Adam". But please do not respond. Don't want another half mile response which will only derail the thread more.


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posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

And none of what you offer as 'proof' makes the Pope a puppet of Soros. Sure there are connections, this is a connected world where 6 degrees of separation abound.

What an outrage that


“to be a voice on behalf of the poor and communities of color.”


oh the horror and


“PICO and FPL have been able to use their engagement in the opportunity of the Pope’s visit to seed their position in the long-term project of shifting the priorities of the U.S. Catholic Church to focus on issues of injustice and oppression,” the memo said.


Now you may find these statements to be double speak but that is your mind and not necessarily the mind of those who wrote the memo. To arrange all that into the pope being a tool of Soros is more than just a stretch of the imagination.

And as far as derailing, once again you make insulting comments at me. Red herring? The thread would have to be going somewhere to be a red herring, which it is not as it now seems to just be you and me.

And lastly, the moonie bit? I was making an attempt to communicate to you with some abstract thought but that seems to have been non productive so never mind. Outta here.



posted on Feb, 20 2017 @ 01:53 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Wow, so write one part of their comments and of course leave out the rest. You lived with "your Moonies" so much that you don't understand that the "plight of the poor" has been used dozens of times to implement hard-left policies worldwide? Perhaps you should keep on talking to your "Moonies". This pope is so far left that he has claimed "communists are the good Christians", and yes, the money received by PICO, among'st other "religious groups" shows Soros is the puppet master behind it all. But hey, you should go and make a thread about "Moonies".



posted on Feb, 20 2017 @ 02:09 AM
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originally posted by: eluryh22

Don't have time to write much now other than to say it's larger than Pope Francis and to me the question is what threats were levied against Pope Bemedict and the Catholic Church prior to Pope Francis.


You are right, this started long before Pope Francis. Father Malachi Martin an insider of the Vatican has written books about how the elite have been subverting the Vatican and slowly have been changing the teachings of Jesus to the cause of the globalists. It's all coming to play nicely for the elitists.



A lot of people would simply not want to believe it, more so if they are atheist, but all we have to do is look at what Pope Francis himself has stated. Socialism/communism are the perfect ideologies/economic reforms that the elite prefer, because through them they gain control over everything.




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You told me some time ago that the precept, “Love your neighbour as thyself” had to change, given the dark times that we are going through, and become “more than thyself.” So you yearn for a society where equality dominates. This, as you know, is the programme of Marxist socialism and then of communism. Are you therefore thinking of a Marxist type of society?
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Pope Francis responds to Scalfari.


“It it has been said many times and my response has always been that, if anything, it is the communists who think like Christians. Christ spoke of a society where the poor, the weak and the marginalized have the right to decide. Not demagogues, not Barabbas, but the people, the poor, whether they have faith in a transcendent God or not. It is they who must help to achieve equality and freedom".
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Pope Francis is a false pope, and one that is part of the globalist goal to use "the plight of the poor people" to help implement hard left policies, socialist and communist policies that the elites like Soros love so much.



posted on Feb, 20 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse



posted on Feb, 20 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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I don't know if it's Soros but there damn sure is something wrong in the Vatican lately.

But if you are like me I believe they are really the evil ones trying to kill all of us. There's so much wrong and so much killing associated with a religion saying their Christian and still has followers that I really believe they are the Church of Satan, the whore of Babylon, the seven headed beast of Revaluation.



posted on Feb, 24 2017 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: Byteme285

The vatican alongside many other powerful organizations have been subverted with people who have far left political ideologies. This pope and many archbishops under him are so far left that pope Francis constantly attacks capitalism claiming it is the biggest evil in the world (which is a plight that has been used by communists) and has spoken in favor of "popular movements" that are so far left they are socialist, or communist.

Soros is an atheist, so the money he gave through his organization to "religious institutions" is not for religious purposes, but rather to use religious figures that are as "liberal/left-wing" as Soros is that they would help further Soro's globalist goals.

Soros is not the only globalist who embraces "socialism and communist ideas", if you go to the websites of the rich families they all embrace the same "socialist/communist" ideas that Soros and pope Francis embrace.

What many regular people who embrace the same, or similar far left-wing ideas fail to understand is that these ideas "will never benefit humanity". In fact what these far left ideas have always done, and will always do is to oppress the masses giving all power and control to the elites under the guise of "doing it for the common good".



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