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Dude, I just explained why people think the truth movement is a joke. Its because the truth movement is so desperate for a "smoking gun" it has abandoned any sense of logic, evidence, or technical sense.
I thought the 9/11 forum was to get to real truth, and not notoriety by science fiction.
People would buy a missile before ever trying to steal a missile with no idea how damaged and contaminated the missile was from being sunk in a nuclear submarine. A sub sank by a defective torpedo that blew off the front end of the sub. Why take a chance with a salvaged Russian missile?
What struck the light poles outside the pentagon
how did the right jet wreckage end up on the lawn of the pentagon
I think the highjackers had enough skill to nose crash the jet into the pentagon.
Radar and eyewitness accounts back the physical evidence flight 77 fight the pentagon.
You don't get to the truth through science fiction hero roll playing.
People taking seriously the idea the government would steal a sea salvaged Russian missile based only on innuendo and no foundation in reality are why the majority of people rightly ignore the truth movement.
It certainly sounds more plausible than the OS narratives of the Pentagon demize. The problem with the OS narratives of the Pentagon is the lack of evidence, and the impossibilities.
While searching through wreckage inside the building, firefighters Carlton Burkhammer and Brian Moravitz "spotted an intact seat from the plane's cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached." Burkhammer also "spotted lime-green pieces from the interior of the plane" within the building.
CMSgt. John Monaccio wrote: "I was in room 1B461. The plane's inertia carried aircraft remains all the way through the building coming to rest on the outside walls of our offices. We discovered cockpit wreckage at our feet while attempting to rescue people from a Navy operations area."
When LTC Victor Correa went back inside the Pentagon, "he found out what caused the horrific attack he survived earlier that morning; he saw the nose cone and the landing gear of the airliner."
originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: facedye
Lets have a close look at the so called truth movement lists what they have claimed re 9/11
Death ray from space WRONG
No planes WRONG
Planes cant go though buildings WRONG
Only fires brought the towers down WRONG
Everything turned to dust WRONG
Steel would have to be melted WRONG
STEEL WAS TESTED TO 2500 F then LOADED FOR HOURS WRONG
MAGIC NUCLEAR WEAPONS (NO BLAST WAVE HEAT OR EMP)
Explosives planted during construction WRONG
Nano thermite WRONG (even AE 9/11 Truth gave that up)
Even if 30+ floors did collapse the floors below would have held WRONG
All videos pictures taken by public were fake WRONG
All these theories to try and explain
originally posted by: muSSang
Now that's what ATS is all about!
Thank you so much for the mind fu*k and thank you for a great post well done!
speaking of lack of evidence.. here's a game i like to play often:
how many cameras can you spot?
originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: facedye
I will give YOU a lesson on structures since my background is at the start working in a STRUCTURAL STEELWORK design/drawing office then a technical role on site for years testing components and giving recommendations to STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS & ARCHITECTS (none of whom have I have worked with ever thought that demolition was involed) to show you the HOLES in the conspiracy side about 2 planes bringing down the towers & damage caused to WTC7.
I don't REALLY care about the investigation because at the end of the day I don't live in the USA, what I do know through EXPERIENCE is the issues re the Tower Design and what the general public think should happen and made the WRONG assumptions about what they saw .
There is PLENTY of evidence for the Pentagon attack being a plane look at post above yours for a small example of MANY reports.
they know this all too well, and this is the one thing the pentagon has refused to turn over. what's your take on that?
I don't REALLY care about the investigation because at the end of the day I don't live in the USA, what I do know through EXPERIENCE is the issues re the Tower Design and what the general public think should happen and made the WRONG assumptions about what they saw .
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: facedye
And the majority of people think the truth movement is a joke populated con persons.