posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 01:24 AM
I know this makes me an outlier for many on ATS today, but for me, the following are not mutually exclusive opinions, and I hold all of them:
1) I wanted Clinton investigated, and I consider the results of said investigation sufficient to regard her - if not criminally culpable - as highly
corrupt and as having employed falsehood multiple times while in office and during her presidential campaign. These, among many other reasons (her
corporatism ties, as well as those of the Clinton Foundation, the apparent signs of pay for access via various business deals and board appointments,
my disagreement with her foreign policy positions, etc. etc. etc.) contributed to my not supporting her campaign.
2) I want to live in a world where we are in a friendly and cooperative relationship with Russia, and I firmly believe that would make the world a
safer, more stable place, and reduce the necessity of proxy wars - which both we and they have been, and are, engaged in. Including, to a certain
extent, the conflict in Syria.
3) The U.S.'s foreign policy, aggressive NATO expansion, and other factors, are naturally interpreted by Russia as hegemonic and a direct threat to
their national security and future status in the world and in their region, and in some cases they perceive those threats as even potentially
existential. To that extent, Russian response to us in recent years is if not always what I would term reasonable, at the very least understandable
and our knee jerk response to it has been more a scramble to come to grips with our own failure to cultivate insight into their psychological and
strategic posture toward us and our actions than anything else.
4) The U.S. and the West in general has engaged in meddling, aggression, and influence peddling that has destabilized the middle east and led directly
or indirectly to humanitarian crises for decades in the region. We also, in our own government, have an increasingly oligarchic and corporatist fusion
of political and financial interests which should concern all of us, regardless of party and political ideology, as well as the world. Which is to
say, whatever criticisms we could level against Russia, we ourselves are not immune to... however, this is still my country. Russia is
not. That doesn't change when I believe what we're doing is wrong. It just means it's time for me to speak up.
5) I don't trust our own, or any country's, intelligence services as far as I can throw them, as they are, literally, in the business of acquiring,
exploiting, and when necessary manufacturing information - true or untrue - in the furtherance of political agendas and goals. That is literally their
All of the above being the case...
6) ... the natural conclusion proceeding from the above is not that therefore Russia gets a free pass, or that they are the good guys. Vladamir
Putin has also proven himself a severe detriment to the freedom, human rights, and democratic institutions of his own people (such that they nascently
existed,) has managed to cleave tightly to power for an excessively long period of time, and has significantly strengthened, or at best reshuffled,
the largely oligarchic system present in his country, despite ostensibly coming to power to curtail it. He has displayed a willingness to engage in
proactive and far reaching asymmetrical and difficult to predict stratagems against the West, whether one believes they are justified or unjustified.
His history, psychology, ideology, and actions do not paint the portrait of a man whose sole ambitions are freedom and justice. Far from it. While we
should strive to the greatest extent possible to coexist peacefully with him, we should be extremely wary of the man, and he is not a friend to
liberty, ours or his own people's. We should not be treating him as an underdog hero standing up to evil.
7) Just as I wanted Hillary Clinton investigated, I want anyone and everyone in the present administration suspected of ties to, communication with,
or collusion with agents of Putin's government or intelligence services investigated as well. This should not be a partisan issue. If Clinton's
potential email leaks to foreign adversaries was a potential national security or foreign policy threat with the possibility of costing people their
lives, and incidents such as Benghazi warranted a closer look, then this must be treated as such as well, and I advocate doing just that. Regardless
of whether anyone believes the results of such an investigation (which the FBI is presently, apparently, engaged in) would be conviction or
exoneration, it needs to be done imo. Thoroughly.
8) I was not an Obama supporter, a Clinton supporter, or a Bush supporter, and regarded them all as various shades of corporatist who advanced imo
dangerous U.S. foreign policy and curtailed or sought to curtail our liberties and any semblance remaining of moral standing in the world. And they
contributed to economic policies which have caused real pain - depending on the administration, to different parts of our population - that still
resounds today. However, after giving President Trump a multi-week benefit of the doubt as I do all presidents, even those I disagree with, I cannot
support him either going forward. He has filled his administration with the same members of the same financial interest groups that previous
administrations have. In my estimation, other than as a disruption to the status quo and proof that such disruption can at least occur, he is not a
savior, or here to stand up to those in "the swamp." And even setting aside my ethical, moral, and humanitarian concerns with his actions to date, he
must be held to the same scrutiny, accountability, questioning, and vigilance that all with power - irrespective of party or ideology -
9) I bear none of the above persons as human beings any ill will, hate, disdain, or malice, nor their supporters or detractors. Nor do I support the
personal attacks, especially against family members of the persons in question, of the same. These are simply my personal opinions, and I respect the
views of those who disagree.
Again, for me, the above opinions are not at all mutually exclusive, and I hold all of them. I know we're all expected here to pick a side, usually a
party, and defend that side to the hilt... but I simply cannot do that. My "side" is humanitarianism, and the integrity, polity, perpetuation of the
democratic institutions of, and elimination of corruption and corporatism in, my country and its government. Regardless of party.