And the thread breaks down into anti-theist ranting... About the same as last I was here and the Youtube channel "next level bs" was being preached as
absolute truth. The political ranting seems the natural progression of that skeptic mentality. Oh well.
Anyway, here's some quotes for the anti-theists:
Neil deGrasse Tyson in a Big Think interview said, "Consider also that in America 40% of American scientists are religious, so this notion that if
you're a scientist that you're an atheist, or if you're religious that you're not a scientist, that's just empirically false. It's an empirically
Werner Heisenberg (1901-1976) was a German theoretical physicist and one of the key pioneers of quantum mechanics. He was awarded the Nobel Prize in
1932. He was a Lutheran and a member of Germany's largest Protestant religious body, the Evangelische Kirche. He said,
“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.”
Carl Sagan (1934-1996) was an astrophysicist famous for the television series Cosmos. He was agnostic, and as one writer pointed out, “Much like
Charles Darwin, Sagan recognized that claiming that there is no God is as irrational as claiming there is one.” He is quoted as saying,
"An atheist has to know a lot more than I know. An atheist is someone who knows there is no god. By some definitions atheism is very stupid."
Mary Schweitzer is a paleontologist who is known for leading the groups that discovered the remains of blood cells in dinosaur fossils and later
discovered soft tissue remains in the Tyrannosaurus Rex specimen MOR 1125. According to an article in Smithsonian Magazine,
"...For her, science and religion represent two different ways of looking at the world; invoking the hand of God to explain natural phenomena breaks
the rules of science. After all, she says, what God asks is faith, not evidence. “If you have all this evidence and proof positive that God exists,
you don’t need faith. I think he kind of designed it so that we’d never be able to prove his existence. And I think that’s really
But as for the Christian Bible, much has been lost in translation.
For example, the reference people make to "talking snakes" is badly out of context because in Genesis it says that God cursed the serpent to crawl on
its belly. Snakes already crawl on their bellies, so it's not much of a curse. Another creature was referred to by the name "serpent" which also
appears in the book of Revalations. A dragon. Those were dragons in the Garden of Eden, not snakes, at least not until they got cursed. And any
argument about a lack of evidence in the fossil record shows ignorance of the fact that about 1% of all species are represented in the fossil record,
so something odd not showing up is perfectly reasonable. The main point being that actual intellectuals catch that, while edgy anti-theists just look
for anything they can argue with.
And to leave off with something thought provoking, people often ask for "proof" of the supernatural. In the martial arts, masters are able to break
solid bricks and bend spears against their necks till they break. That's not a bunch of gimmicks and cheap tricks. It's a physical manifestation of
Chi, and it's an in-your-face proof of the supernatural, whether you choose to believe it's spiritual or some manifestation of human thought energies
as seen in the movie "Lucy".
I think H. P. Lovecraft said it well in the Call of Cthulhu where the main character said,
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability
of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We
live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas
of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.
The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together
of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas
of reality and of our frightful position therein, that we shall
either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly
light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."
Despite anti-theist claims of pushing for a new "dark age", religious people are well aware of this precarious position, but instead of actually
fighting science, they simply pray.
Now I'm going back to reading the garbage on 9gag, because it's the same political and anti-theist ranting, but at least there's funny pictures mixed