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Donald Trump ruled an outlaw for violating the First Amendment of the Constitution

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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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Personally, I don't think this argument holds. The US constitution only applies to US citizens or foreign citizens who are on US soil having passed US customs. Refugees are neither.

If the US constitution applies to foreigners, then might as well arrest the Saudi king for religious persecution.
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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: masterofuniverse

Does the Constitution apply to dual US citizens trying to re-enter the country?
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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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Straw clutching much?

How on Earth could this apply to non U.S citizens who have no right to enter the U.S? Besides, it's not a Muslim ban is it?



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Of course. Donald Trump does not ban US citizens.
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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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The case was brought to the court in Alexandria, Virginia, on behalf of two Yemeni brothers who were turned away from the US shortly after arriving at Dulles International Airport.


Both of them hold legal resident status/green cards and they were still turned away from entering the country. Their father is an American citizen. They're not refugees.


There had been some debate whether green card holders should be even allowed to board international flights. It was decided by the Department of Homeland Security they could fly to the US and would be considered on a case-by-case basis after passing a secondary screening. But the guidance sent to airlines on Friday night, obtained by CNN, said clearly, "lawful permanent residents are not included and may continue to travel to the USA."


Admin can't figure out if legal residents are legal
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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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If they are not US citizens or if they are foreigners who have not passed customs to be officially on US soil, the US constitution do not apply to them. They can get their visas or green cards revoked and there is nothing unconstitutional about that.
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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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Judge Leonie Brinkema issued a preliminary injunction, asserting that the campaign vow to institute a "Muslim ban" violated the First Amendment.


That judge is an idiot.

It's not a muslim ban for effs sake.

It's a temporary moratorium of travel from SEVEN known terrorist states.



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: neo96

And why should the US constitution apply to foreign citizens on foreign soil? The US is not the world police.



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: masterofuniverse

The Constitution of the United States limits what government can and cannot do, including the President.

From you link:

The First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing laws that favour one religion over another.


The President, Donald Trump, violated the Constitution of United States in his Executive Order.


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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


www.law.cornell.edu...

This is what the first says.

Congress shall make no law.

Well the executive isn't the congress.

No one is interfering with their 'right' to practice Islam.

No one establishing a religion.

And TRAVEL isn't covered in that amendment.




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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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The constitution applies to American citizens and, at best, to foreign citizens on US soil who have passed US customs. It does not apply to foreign citizens on foreign soil. Or else the US would have to arrest the Saudi king for religious persecution.
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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: masterofuniverse
They can get their visas or green cards revoked and there is nothing unconstitutional about that.

Some people here either don't get it or they don't want to get it.


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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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It is a privilege to come to the US. It is not a right. If 1 billion Muslims decide to come to the US in a single day. Not gonna happen.



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: masterofuniverse

Being coerced into renouncing one's residency status is unconstitutional, I'd say.

And, unfortunately for you, you're not a judge so your interpretation of what's constitutional and what isn't doesn't really matter much, does it?

If it was all on the up and up, I don't imagine the administration would've reversed it's position on legal residents. It did. That speaks volumes.



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: masterofuniverse

The Constitution of the United States limits what government can and cannot do, including the President.

From you link:

The First Amendment prohibits the government from establishing laws that favour one religion over another.


The President, Donald Trump, violated the Constitution of United States in his Executive Order.


No he didn't. 85% of the worlds Muslim population can still travel freely to the USA, the executive order was limited to 7 "mainly muslim" countries with only Syria under a complete ban, the other 6 have to jump through more hoops / go through more stringent vetting.

Where do you get that this is a ban based on religion??

I still hear people kicking of about a muslim ban ....... i have never worked that one out, where do you get it from?



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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Those who arrived at the airport have not gone past customs. Legally, they are not on US soil even though they are in a US airport. Their visas and green cards can be revoked legally.



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: masterofuniverse

The judges ruling is not granting Constitutional protections to foreigners. Tje ruling applies to the EO. The EO is wriiten with a bias against a religion. The Constitution forbids writing laws with religious bias.



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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If the US constitution applies to foreigners, then might as well arrest the Saudi king for religious persecution.


you do realize that the Saudi King is not an fn American citizen do you?
how the F are you going to arrest a King ? is it just because you just want to to do so ? i say in your dreams and your leader in that mater

how does a constitution of a country applies to another one? can you enlighten me?



posted on Feb, 14 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: Dr UAE

Don't ask me. Ask the judge who seems to think the US constitution applies to Saudi Arabia.







 
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