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The three stages under discussion may be illustrated through the three etymologically unrelated theonyms: the Hittite fate goddesses Gulses (cf. Hitt. guls - ‘to carve, engrave’), the Armenian mythological gure Groł , lit. “Writer”, and ultimately Slavic * čьrtъ ‘demon, devil’, lit. “Draughtsman”.
When particular communities have no practical command of writing but only a general knowledge of its concept, it is likely to acquire magical and ominous connotations in their eyes.
Hittite verbal root guls- (phonologically /kuls-/) represents a reflex of IE. * kwels ‘to draw’, whose other reflexes include Ved. kr ̥ṣ áti ‘to pull’, Avestan karšaiti ‘to draw furrows’ and Greek τέλσον ‘furrow’.
Gulses can determine the time of a person’s death An Akkadian and Hittite bilingual text contains the expression ‘in the day of your destiny’ in its Akkadian version, while its Hittite counterpart is the sentence ‘when the days of the Gulsa-deities befall you’
There was a clear relationship involved between the actual making of the mark, the drawing of the line or creation of the inscribed furrow, and the determination of fate, that it is expected the act of writing will actually make it so, which of course lends support to suggestions that the earliest sign scripts such as those of Vinca culture related to magical and oracular practice.
Record keeping relies upon questions of integrity, can you trust the figures that the bank says you owe them, a relationship based upon trust and faith, can you adjust your life in order to comply with their interest demands etc...
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
It was also the case in Sumeria that every conceivable action was inscribed on a Me Tablet and that control of such empowered a particular Deity to be in charge of such activities, even to the extent of the Tablet of Destiny which guaranteed control of the entire Universe, which of course establishes the belief that the written word correlated to actual fate.
It is readily apparent and a self evident truth that a tradition based upon faith in the written word can be easily exploited through the production of fraudulent writings and documentation until we arrive at the present age of not believing anything you read upon the internet, but it is also the case that people have an intrinsic desire to put their faith in the written word and allow this to determine their fate, and thus the ceaseless activities of the political propagandists and perditious persuasive's.
In the current Memetic age we have entered into see's a return to the basic principle that the mark must directly correlate with a self evident truth, if that is the case then your Meme will resonate and gain acceptance, this having become necessary when only distortions of truth are promoted through MSM, the production of writing for clearly Demonic purpose.
The current symbol of such Kek was of course an Egyptian sign that correlated to the point of transition between darkness and light at the dawn, based upon self evident truths of the frog being a useful symbol of transiton from the water onto the surface and even up into the air, the Egyptian hieroglyphic system an attempt to translate natural based phenomena into a metaphysical system of belief.
originally posted by: fluff007
a reply to: Kantzveldt
Interesting thread S&F.
Have you seen this?
The Truth About Pepe The Frog and The Cult of Kek
Looks awful lot like a person at a PC...
Shadilay...!
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
a reply to: Byrd
The term mīmēma as "imitated thing" is applicable to the Sumerian abstraction of the Mes tree were all the leaves represented functions of life as written expressions, that naturally self generated as the tree grew and developed more branches, a good one also in suggesting a self evident truth.
Kek related to that point of ultimate twilight 18 degrees beneath the horizon
were the darkness as if by magic translates into the first light of dawn, his partner Kauket the opposite, in the greater sense that also related to the first emergence of the light of creation, in both cases they represent points of transition.
The other two frog Deities in the Ogdoad are Hek and Heket, the earliest associations of Heket are concerned with birth in the Cosmological sense, Hek was a Deity of time and space they closely relate to the function of Kek and Kauket.
So anyway the current usage of Kek is entirely appropriate as it relates to incipient enlightenment within the twilight zone, it has everything to do with what the Egyptians understood the symbol as representing, and therefore it works.
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
a reply to: Byrd
The point of Ultimate Twilight can also be expressed as 1/20th of that circle which the Sun was understood to describe,
when you mention that his name meant darkness you leave out the association with obscurity
a region of time and space were signs and symbols are undifferentiated.
The mention of Heket in the pyramid texts involves the Pharoah developing frogs legs so he can leap into the infinite space of the Heavens, a sort of cosmological birth, sometimes though people take all this a little too seriously.
The Ogdoad as it doesn't turn out pre-dates the New Kingdom,..
...but certainly it was revived under the Ptolomies and the article you linked to is very good, noteworthy there that Kauket declares Hathor as the Female Sun and the Golden One, because she marked that point were the Sun entered into the underworld and technically became Feminine, Kek and Kauket indicate points of gender transition also, Heka existed before duality had yet come into being.