originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: TrueBrit
Ok, sure. These are outright lies:
No they are not. They are the Truth. The right voted for Trump, who has picked anti-liberty, anti-freedom, and therefore anti-American people to
occupy cabinet positions, picks which the people who voted for him appear to support, which means that they, like the spray tanned Muppet they voted
for, are a bunch of hypocritical freedom hating, liberty hating, anti-Americans, who actually only believe in freedom and liberty for people who are
like them, not everyone who calls America their home. Jeff Sessions has already started damaging transgender rights, by permitting a challenge to
Obamas guidance on bathroom access. There has already been talk of silencing the media so that the government can go about its foul, regressive
business without criticism or public awareness. People on the right are STILL supporting that crap even though it is unconstitutional as hell. The
right, going by their behaviour, are not a party which takes the concepts laid down in the constitution, or the freedom and liberty it guarantees the
people, seriously in the least, unless those people happen to fit into a very narrow list of religious, sexual, gender identity and nation of origin
pigeon holes. That is about as American as Mecca.
There is absolutely NOTHING anti-American about the right. We're the ones getting our free speech silenced by the left, ironically over a gay guy
dating a black man, and a woman that had her access blocked so she couldn't enter a school, and others have been getting silenced by the left.
Needless to say all their protests and violence. These protesters and agitators are the very definition of a terrorist (a person who uses unlawful
violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.)
No, see, there is a difference between a protestor and an agitator. Protestors turn up to protest. Chants, pickets, all legitimate, no criminal
damage, no violent crime. Agitators, also known as agent provocateurs, are inserted into many of these groups to commit acts which offer police an
excuse to clamp down on the protest as a whole, over the actions of a relative few. Of course, there will be an onlooker who will take a couple of
hundred bucks from a right wing rag to tell the journalists there, that EVERYONE was involved, but its always nonsense, just as it was during the
Occupy demonstrations, just as it was during most of the serious violations of protest rights in history. In fact, Federal law enforcement penetrates
all protest groups for the specific purpose of inserting these agitators, so that no protest can ever be held without incident, unless it is
politically expedient, something that no one had trouble believing during the last administration, but have trouble even understanding now, for no
good reason, I might add.
It was the Bush administration which began handing military gear to police
Bill and Hillary Clinton ramped up law enforcement in the 90's to bring urban neighborhoods high in crime to heel. They're the ones who put that into
Well, if you want to get technical, it actually started with Reagan and his idiotic War on Drugs, then the first Bush, but whatever makes you feel
less responsible for your nations imminent collapse into a black hole of corporate run fascism!
Ok, I get that Bush took us into war, but he didn't do it without the "Yes" votes of many democrats, including Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, and Joe
Biden to name a few of the over 100 that voted yes. What I don't get, is how the Bush Admin sought to take away freedom and liberty from citizens.
That's strictly your opinion. And the reason Obama didn't do any of what you said he should have done is because he had no idea what he was doing. He
was a mouthpiece and a puppet doing only as he was told.
It is not my opinion that Bush sought to take away liberty and freedom from the people. That is the ONLY result that a mass surveillance initiative
like the one which sprung up, could ever have had, ergo its creation was a deliberate attempt to destroy the privacy, freedom from unreasonable
searches, of American citizens. Ergo, anyone involved in that project, who failed to come forward about it (so, everyone involved bar Snowden) has
committed a treason against his or her people, for having ANYTHING to do with it, permitting it to happen, permitting it to exist, or allowing
taxpayer money to be spent on it.
Come on man. Seriously. The left are acting like anti-American, anti-Constitutionalist terrorists. Not all of them, but all of their loud mouths are.
They're silencing free speech, burning down their own cities, damaging their own universities, becoming violent with anyone that doesn't think like
them, and the list goes on and on. Surely you didn't mean what that last quote says. I know you couldn't possibly believe that.
I see people bitching about the left, but the only person to have been shot at a protest was a lefty. I see people complaining about the rights of the
right, but when Milo outs transgendered people without their permission, I hear nothing but crickets and soft breeze from the right. I see you guys on
the right getting all hyped up about building a wall to keep the Mexicans and the terrorists, or the Mexican terrorists, or who ever the hell out of
your country, because you are all so, wet pants terrified of becoming dead in a terror attack, or a cartel attack... But when white nationalists shoot
up a church or any other kind of location, its not terror related, its a lone wolf, or the individual is deranged, or some other LIE.
What I see from the right these days, is a total lack of credibility. You have shown that the last eight years they spent whining about Obamas every
last action (many of which extended rights to people who should always have had them, and are now being destroyed by Mr Jeff Sessions by the way),
were entirely partisan. You know why I know that your complaint was partisan? Because I complained about Mr Obama when his actions were anti-liberty,
and anti-freedom. I bitched about the determination of the left to in any way alter the second amendment, because I respect the right to bear arms. I
complained about Mr Obama when he failed to address serious concerns about the legality of certain programs that his government were running, I
complained when agencies run under his Presidency, did things that were entirely wrong. I do NOT think in a partisan fashion. The fact that you are
not as angry about what Trump represents as anyone on the left, shows you up to be nothing more than a trench dweller, one who would blow the trumpet
of his or her party, no matter who happened to be in it, or what they happened to be about.
Let me tell you this. You think that Trump, a man who thinks that waterboarding is too soft, is a good example of an American president, you think
that anyone who supports Trump, given even that singular fact, is a good example of an American, and you are welcome to your opinion. But your opinion
and reality have nothing to do with one another.