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posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 07:35 AM
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a reply to: CaptainBeno

While I have really enjoyed the Liberal meltdown, it's kinda getting sad and pathetic.

I honestly don't know what they expect to happen with it all, I mean do they not SEE how Trump and everyone who is NOT a Liberal doesn't care what they think?

Their bubble was exposed, and instead of an awakening, they have fully retreated into it. They're now entrenched in it.

Good, because that's what lost them the election, and that's what will continue to do the same. They don't even realize what they are doing to their side.

They think they're galvanizing themselves, and yet what they are truly doing is alienating the rest of the country.




posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: CaptainBeno

Thank you very much for this post. You are correct 100%. I am really wanting to get back to some original posts.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 07:44 AM
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Plus, I didn't see NEARLY this level of meltdown from the right when Obama was elected in '08.

Despite the predictions from the left that they would.

Pretty telling, IMO.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 08:19 AM
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I reckon I identify as a "liberal", but I think the reaction is ridiculous as well.

I have a hard time understanding what the uproar is about, and I have a hard time understanding how anybody believes that he has any intentions of doing good for the country.

We've had several terrible presidents over the years. My only concern is foreign relations. Nearly the entire world hates him. But what can we do about it? Nothing. I'll just sit back and watch the show.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:17 AM
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It used to be a default setting of posters to think that politics and the media was all a big show - not so much these days. I've seen little or no mention of how this supposedly somewhat maverick president, would possibly fit into a bigger picture of mass-manipulation. It was a similar to the UK's EU referendum, these two huge political issues have been mostly spoken about in very conventional - and dare I say it - MSM terms.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: SolAquarius
What started as a site named after a book about UFO secrecy died under the oppressive weight of partisan politics and influx of people who only care about conspiracys that involve their political opponents.
Rest in peace ancient ATS fair well Aliens ghosts and goblins. So long dulce and area 51 there is a new king in town who has grabed ATS by its *BLANK*


To be fair..those days are over and long gone...different time...time to evolve and look for the ROOTS of all conspiracies.

I have delved farther into these subjects in ways that maybe i shouldnt have..but now see the political system crashing is necessary to finding out the truth on EVERY subject.

The reason those posts dont happen much anymore...is that deep inside people DON'T CARE..
And have already reviewed every single piece of evidence and fought debunkers.

Embrace the new wave...get active...reading time pieces on conspiracies was old back in 2008.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
UFOs are not showing up every day going booga booga booga. All their little friends are not zipping around showing them selves on national TV saying what he really meant was UGGA booga booga.

You want to know about UfOs? I'll tell you. They are all sitting out there quietly watching. And waiting. They are watching a native species stumbling towards implosion as it's hope of joining them in the cosmos crashes an apocalyptic con game. First row seats


No...they are not quietly watching...they have interfered endlessly trying to shape our destiny...

Soon they will ALL be confronted and changed against there will.

This is no native species...and they knew when they combined us into this form the potential..and the consequence.

Stupidly they again are trying to stop our progress...which they actually need to survive..because they cannot control the eventual outcomes.

Either they are removed or all of Entirety will slowly spiral downwards as it is now...but forever without completion.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
Plus, I didn't see NEARLY this level of meltdown from the right when Obama was elected in '08.

Despite the predictions from the left that they would.

Pretty telling, IMO.


8+ years of birther non-sense.

Obama is actually Osama Bin Laden.
He's the Anti-Christ.
He's gonna take all the guns.
Implement Sharia Law.
Christianity illegal.

Purposeful ignorance is a wonderful thing. Conservatives lost their # daily for nearly a decade because a black man was in office. They tried to make anything stick but to no avail.

Stop spreading lies.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
UFOs are not showing up every day going booga booga booga. All their little friends are not zipping around showing them selves on national TV saying what he really meant was UGGA booga booga.

You want to know about UfOs? I'll tell you. They are all sitting out there quietly watching. And waiting. They are watching a native species stumbling towards implosion as it's hope of joining them in the cosmos crashes an apocalyptic con game. First row seats


No...they are not quietly watching...they have interfered endlessly trying to shape our destiny...

Soon they will ALL be confronted and changed against there will.

This is no native species...and they knew when they combined us into this form the potential..and the consequence.

Stupidly they again are trying to stop our progress...which they actually need to survive..because they cannot control the eventual outcomes.

Either they are removed or all of Entirety will slowly spiral downwards as it is now...but forever without completion.


I believe Globalism is one of the many things they have been driving us to.

I honestly don't think they would willfully reveal themselves until there is a one world government. Much easier to deal with one Government, than the multitude we have now.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

Lies?

Whatever.

The level of freak out NOW is of a magnitude that was never seen in the past 8 years.

That's the truth. Sorry if you cannot handle it.

No, then again, not sorry.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: poncho1982

No the level of freakout now is of a magnitude YOU have never seen in the past 8 years. It was constant all over the net and on ATS about all the things Rome mentioned. Again it is cognitive dissonance at its finest. When Obama was it threads were constantly about his birth certificate long after he proved it. But they persisted. Over and over with each topic.

NOW that Dear Leader is in, those same people are seeing Trump threads and there ARE a lot of them...absolutely. And they want them to stop or be removed from front page or silenced in SNOWFLAKE BEHAVIOR!

So far Trump's EO's have been plentiful....something they complained about with Obama.

ACA repeal possibility....ok...while I disagree personally, others may not. There is a distinct ideology difference there and I can accept that

Slashing regulations 2 for 1 - Great idea in theory except that this country has proven time and again without regulation it will run amok

Increase illegal drug trafficking crime reduction - We have seen the waste of the war on drugs. And yet here is is increasing it. People complained about Obama wasting money and I have to wonder what this will cost

Wants to review Dodd-Frank - Trump and his cronies cried about transparency and going after big business and money. So removing transparency laws to protect the shareholders will achieve that?

And now....trying to repeal a transperancy on financial disclosure from oil to foreign interests....VERY transperant

Now I understand that the theme of this thread was Leave Donald Alone....but can you see why...just maybe...why we are a little concerned and have cause to look into conspiracy behind all of this, more, and the possibility that Russia may have had something to do with the election of a man who claimed that Hillary had fraudulent election measures?



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: DeathShield

I agree with you there about phage especially. Not saying that he's a paid shill, but I think most people weren't really sure of their political ideological standing before Trump entered the picture to say it like it is and then some. Before Trump you Just accepted and shrugged that things were bad if you had drive and wanted to get ahead, and that things never seemed like they would ever change or even could change.

Then bam Trump enter right (or left, can't tell sometimes) stage, I have a clear message for America, we will be great again and i'll stake my very brand and empire on it. (Our Saviour, he must be?! He's willing to basically stake everything he's ever built and worked for on it.)

Before Trump it didn't matter if u voted Republican or Democrat, they're all slaves to the Globalist elite who fund the politician's non profits.

It's no longer Dems vs Repubs. It's Globalists Vs. Nationalists, Democrats & Republicans Vs. Trump. He doesn't fit their molds and theyre pissed cause the money isn't flowing into their pockets like it used to from their Rothschild 100,000$ a plate fundraisers.



Those are pretty fair points where this cycle is concerned. Official news reports and statements certainp do lead me to believe that we have been restratified in the manner you suggested. To me, it seems current crop pf people screaming "Nazi' and "Russian" are contrasted by the last 8 years of people screaming "Communist" and "Socialist" at Obama and Dems. Accuse your accuser of the accusation. The right wing is adept at employing his tactic where racism is concerned, and the left is in overdrive with it. They are both taking pages from alinsky and the soviets whether they realize it or not. It's truly a bizzare sight for us right leaning independents.

To me it seems like elements within the deep State and for and address areas house averted both the left and right wing of our government and have pulled them further over what is essentially an organic and natural divide that occurs every cycle. But that is just a bunch of assumption and speculation on my part. I can't honestly claim the know the truth and I know better than to trust Breitbart OR CNN...and it seems like a lot of people are angry that some of us are skeptical of a rulling powers claims. Still, people seem to be getting less stratified in some areas. I am meeting a lot more younger kids who have surprisingly right wing views mixed with surprisingly left wing social liberal attitudes. I don't think we are as bad off as it seems. But that is the optimist in me speaking... reality maybe far more Mundane or far more terrifying. And good god if there isnt some nasty crap coming from both ends of the turd sandwich.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: ParasuvO
First ParasovO, I am not a disbeliever, rather I am a frustrated enthusiast tired of waiting for mass contact.

You say that they knew our potential and the consequences when they guided our inception as a species way back when.

You say that they have been interfering (I would not say interfering so much as manipulating as interfering would suggest that they were foreign to our being whereas if they put us together in the first place they would not be foreign to us.)

You also say'"stupidly they are trying to stop our progress which they need to survive. What do you think they need our progress for.

The two main points I might consider about your reply are:
One. Humans are an experiment being run by beings of other origin (and quite possibly nature) for some purpose to suit some agenda other than just the welfare of our species. You suggest that the experiment might be morphing in a manner that is not in accordance with that original agenda.

You say they are acting stupidly to stop our progress even though they need that progress for their own survival. From this I gather that they are not as smart as they think they are.

Two. You say "Soon they will ALL be confronted and changed against their will". By who? Here, the only thing I can imagine is that even greater powers will show up and intervene by changing them or as you state later, removing them from our equation entirely.

So what I am putting together from your points are, we humans are created by aliens for an unstated purpose to serve the needs for continued alien survival yet the very progress that is necessary in the human experiment is a threat to them even though they knew the risks in the first place. They sound desperate to have undertaken such a volatile experiment. And finally, some greater alien power will step in and either set them straight or just get them out of the way entirely.

OK, if that is what you are saying then fine, all that may be. But then you finish with your final sentence. "Either they are removed or all of Entirety will slowly spiral downwards as it is not, but forever without completion. WoW.

As I understood your first points, it all sounds like a localized experiment, something happening centered on the development of a human species and how that experiment is off course but can be rectified by smarter aliens stepping in to make corrections. But that last sentence, when you say that 'All of Entirety' will spiral down forever with out completion, that suggests that this human, earth, alien experiment is not just localized but rather is of the utmost and totally cosmic proportions.

So Para, if I am close to understanding your position, please let's continue if you want to expand on all of that. I'm listening.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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1. Extreme left SJWs = not 'liberals' any more than KKK represent conservatives. Let's stop using such broad brush strokes. It creates more infighting.

2. It's utterly bizzare that you think anyone should just 'suck it up' and be quiet because they 'lost'. It's a ridiculous concept and you know it. People discuss politics, and Donnie is giving us a lot to discuss. There was plenty of discussion about Obama for 8 years.

So if you don't like the threads, don't read them. It's really that easy. Trying to stifle free speech because it disagrees with your narrative is dangerous and hypocritical. The whole point of democracy is that we can converse freely. Nobody has the right to tell anyone else to just 'shut up and accept it'. That kind of narrative reflects very badly on those preaching it.
edit on 15-2-2017 by fencesitter85 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: EyeKyu

originally posted by: fencesitter85



Did you people suck it up when obama won, or did you whinge for 8 years?

Sorry, no - we'll continue to make use of our right to free speech on a public forum. We won't be silenced because you'd rather sit in blissful ignorance with your fingers in your ears. What a ridiculous post 'please stop being mean about the president'



8 Years is what you should be looking forward to. Thanks to whiny snowflakes, his base certainly hasn't gotten weaker. And at this point there is no reason to think he won't win the same states again.

The negativity from the left is not putting a dent in his support. In fact you're doing yourselves a disservice, nobody wants to be associated with a bunch of woe is me, whining wimps.

The only time I remember seeing Obama threads on here by the way is when he was doing things that were perceived to be criminal (treasonous) of a POTUS.

But by all means, keep whining, here, there, everywhere. This phenomena isn't constrained to ATS, and those of us on the right will not be worn down by cry-baby tactics. I can assure you of that much. So enjoy your first amendment right to whine!


Pathetic, childish trolling. Honestly, if this is how you have discussions as an adult, I pity you. By your definition, Trump is the biggest snowflake crybaby in the world. Frequent tweets getting upset and defensive because SNL or the media said something nasty.

See? The crybaby narrative is a fallacy. It's a lazy pointless diversion which can be used literally by either side to address any single point of discussion raised. It's time we all acted our age.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: CaptainBeno

Way to go making another anti trump rant thread calling for everyone to stop politicizing the site with trump rant threads.

Fail...



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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This topic has been discussed at length recently to the point I'm tempted to make a "Stop ranting about posts that are ranting about posts related to politics" thread.

Short Story:
The world, along with this nation, are facing multiple imminent threats that all lead to a very dystopian future.
Every bit of it is tied to politics and religion, which is also politics.
The current state of the U.S. government dictates which way the cradle will fall.
There has never been a more crucial time to discuss politics.

Granted, many of the posts fail to hit the nail, instead reducing the banter to the same 'ol bipartisan subjects which could not be more outdated or irrelevant, but at least it's being discussed.

Frankly, I'd much rather see this site riddled with these posts rather than a year ago, when ATS was rapidly becoming an extension of Facebook with it's barrage of kitten/recipe/clickbait crapola I was seeing everywhere. So very happy we've gotten away from that for the most part.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 03:30 PM
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I made this thread the other day. . . Not Trump related. . . Oddly enough, there were a few members who tried to turn it into a political agenda. Thankfully the mods mopped it up quickly.

Abandoned 220 Year Old town in the Appalachian Mountains

I think there are probably a lot of threads about other things, but they never make the front page. Seems like the Trump topic is getting a lot of attention.
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posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: CaptainBeno

There are two reasons we will remain Above Trump Secret for a while instead of having alien threads.

1 - Trump Tweets, like, all the time. Sort of seeks our attention and we give it because his tiny clown hands are fun to talk about.

2 - Aliens haven't been making appearances like they used to. Because they are watching the news about Trump.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: CaptainBeno

There is a war being waged for power.. Trump was not meant to get in he is not a politician from the gang.
The non elected shadow government and US intelligence agencies are waging a war against the elected president of the USA.

Nice to see some of the inner workings of the USA government..



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