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I do not think it really matters what causes it

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posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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What’s magnetic north would become magnetic south. Is Earth headed to a pole reversal? A look at the archaeological record in southern Africa provides clues.


Magnetic pole reversal ahead?


By John Tarduno, University of Rochester and Vincent Hare, University of Rochester The Earth is blanketed by a magnetic field. It’s what makes compasses point north, and protects our atmosphere from continual bombardment from space by charged particles such as protons. Without a magnetic field, our atmosphere would slowly be stripped away by harmful radiation, and life would almost certainly not exist as it does today. You might imagine the magnetic field is a timeless, constant aspect of life on Earth, and to some extent you would be right. But Earth’s magnetic field actually does change. Every so often – on the order of several hundred thousand years or so – the magnetic field has flipped. North has pointed south, and vice versa. And when the field flips it also tends to become very weak.




With all the talk about climate change and global warming doesn't it beg to show another possible reason for one or the other or both occurring?

I do not think it really matters what causes it. A combination is more likely, magnetic confluence of galactic proportions and a little help from humans. I think regardless of why, it happens and has happened many times over the course of Earth's existence. Changes in climate are normal, but when there is a weakening of the protective atmosphere, the Sun does give us more radiation.

Think of it like this, one day the Earth is wearing a hat and using an umbrella to protect us and the next day the wind blows and makes the umbrella tip over to the side, it still offers protection, but it has shifted where that protection is, allowing for other areas not protected by the hat to receive more direct sunlight, causing an unusual warming in certain areas, but the hat is still there.

Then another wind comes along and blows the hat off and causes another shift in the umbrella, thus creating another burst of radiation. This radiation becomes trapped in pockets under the unreliable umbrella and creates that unstable green house effect.

Maybe my analogy works and maybe it doesn't, just occurred to me this might be a way to explain it.

Really,hasn't Earth has always been a terrarium wrapped in a flexible and ever changing cocoon of protection, magnetically charged according to most scientific theories, and connected to an iron core deep inside?

The effects will be felt whether or not we want them to be, us humans only have so much control over this matter. Okay, you want to blame it all on humans, go ahead, but you could be wrong to do so.

In the end, these changes happen with or without us, the only difference being is that now, technology has allowed us to actually measure it and the Internet has allowed for the transfer of information about said changes. Trying to find the blame is typical, rather than just accepting and adapting to the way we deal with it.

The main clue we have to these environmental changes is the Aurora lights, these are caused by magnetic anomalies in the atmosphere and have been observed in specific areas for this lifetime, around both magnetic poles. They extend in many directions and to me are directly influenced by the magnetic energy and as the poles shift they will too; offering us the proof we need that magnetic reversals are in the process of happening.

AURORA


The Aurora Borealis (Northern Lights) and Aurora Australis (Southern Lights) are the result of electrons colliding with the upper reaches of Earth’s atmosphere. (Protons cause faint and diffuse aurora, usually not easily visible to the human eye.) The electrons are energized through acceleration processes in the downwind tail (night side) of the magnetosphere and at lower altitudes along auroral field lines. The accelerated electrons follow the magnetic field of Earth down to the Polar Regions where they collide with oxygen and nitrogen atoms and molecules in Earth’s upper atmosphere. In these collisions, the electrons transfer their energy to the atmosphere thus exciting the atoms and molecules to higher energy states. When they relax back down to lower energy states, they release their energy in the form of light. This is similar to how a neon light works. The aurora typically forms 80 to 500 km above Earth’s surface.




So, has there been a change in where the Aurora Borealis is observable?

According to some information, the answer is a resounding, Yes! The Aurora has become visible further south in recent years. If and when the poles do flip there is a belief as portrayed in the picture above, that there will multiple poles of a weakening faction that will dot the landscape as the shift happens. Magnetic North has changed. So has South. As this becomes more rapid we can expect many problems with satellite and GPS positioning, along with a very drastic change in the migratory patterns of aqua marine life and our feathered friends. Animal behavior will change monumentally.

Not good: the magnetic field of the Earth is fading -- and fast.

And hold your horses, our world might be doing just that. For at least three centuries, the Earth’s magnetic field has been fading, in an ever faster pace. Right now, it is about 10 percent weaker than it was when scientists started keeping track of it in 1845. Also, there’s the poetically named ‘South Atlantic Anomaly’. That’s a huge chunk of Earth, deep underneath the ocean floor, where the turnover has already begun.


Human behavior is and will be effected, too. Our bodies are influenced directly by magnetic changes, our mental acuity and ability to function physically changes along with the Earth. Being exposed to more incoming space particles can and most likely have and will continue to alter our DNA for generations to come. Increases in radiation have begun and will only continue to get stronger as the magnetic field shifts and weakens. This explains why many people get cancer for unknown reasons, it is not possible to quantify where or how because it is directly related to the exposure from the Sun, the Sun can cause many types of cancer to materialize in an unprotected environment.

Many of us alive right now will not be around to witness said changes, but the precursor has begun, make no mistake about that. There has been an increase in cancer related deaths and many humans are lashing out uncontrollably over a variety of issues. Maybe the reason is because of the shift itself. This will cause a shift in many types of electrical connections, spiritual and man made.

The affect is not understood or recognizable by many, because they are distracted by other worldly events. This is probably leading me to a subject that will be needed to be followed up on; how this affects our spiritual endeavors and the strain it puts on our everyday psyche. That will be another OP another day for you to have your own say on the matters.




posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: sweetypie215


With all the talk about climate change and global warming doesn't it beg to show another possible reason for one or the other or both occurring?

I do not think it really matters what causes it.

But nicely tucked these memes into that non catatstoprhe too , dinchoo?



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

Isn't the real problem with knowing something is so caused by cherry picking data from a bunch of sets .Put all together they look like white noise . Someone wants to make his point[s] and chooses the data signals that will best serve that purpose while ignoring the ones that don't help .And still going further to ignore other theory's of how it may all work because they are rejected by the status quo . If we get this change in the magnetic poles ,do I buy a new compass ? Will water start to run up hill ? What happens to the cold north winds ? inquiring minds need to know :>)



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 12:34 PM
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I feel that altering the dipoles mineral content is leading to a disturbance of the magnetic field. Everything is connected. Mining all the ore bodies can create a change in the weather by altering the magnetic field, not just the poles are active sites. Fracking the earth also disturbs energy flow through the crust. But they don't want to admit that publicly since it would hurt our economy. We need the gas and oils to further our destruction of the environment, otherwise we would stagnate economically.

They already know about the mines effecting things, that has been known for over sixty years. Some mineral bodies are protected already because of this knowledge.



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 12:43 PM
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If we get this change in the magnetic poles ,do I buy a new compass ? Will water start to run up hill ? What happens to the cold north winds ? inquiring minds need to know :>)

Your compass needle will point the opposite direction.

GPS, land sea and air navigation systems will go tilt, then be reprogrammed.

All the lava that forms from now on will crystallize pointing the opposite pole.

Might mess with birds migration patterns too.

Off the cuff thinking, what else depends on magnetic field polarity?

Not much...



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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Although what you say is true ,its of the magnitude of the butterfly effect . Don't forget that even if you moved the ores they are still a part of the earth .Its not like we are shipping them to other worlds . I think that water might play a much bigger part of the bigger picture . Lets drain the arctic and see :>)



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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Your compass needle will point the opposite direction.
But I don't want to go in that direction



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 12:54 PM
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I do not think it really matters what causes it

Yes and No.
I believe it really would help for prevention or eventually preparations.
To know the specific cause can help us a great deal in 'effective treatment' just like a disease or solving any problem.
But if the SHTF, survival experience is more important I guess.

Although, there aren't major signs within history that during shifts, plant and animal life suffer extensive difficulties.
We have survived previous shift so why wouldn't we do so with the next one?

I believe the only studies we have on spaceweather and human health comes from astronauts.
I don't know if the Apollo astronauts suffered any particular diseases related to their space exploration.



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: intrptr




Your compass needle will point the opposite direction.
But I don't want to go in that direction


Tell that to the missile software during the recent trident launch that instead of going towards Europe had to be destroyed in flight because instead, it turned towards the US...

Dyslexic software is bad enough, could kill the wrong people even if theres no 'pole shift.



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 01:13 PM
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Super fluids!

While we are at it we should dig as many deep wells as humanly possible, when/if the planet (not just the atmosphere) heats up the water expands, it's fathomable that we have a lot of "hidden" water and even possible a great welling of waters could burst forth in biblical proportions!

Just throwing some doom porn out the pram, it's ATS after all.

No but seriously, maybe someone might know a little about this... If the magnetic field couldn't help deflect or absorb radiation and said radiation was absorbed by the oceans, would they swell?

What about waters locked away in rock?

I mention super fluids because we are still learning about some amazing properties water has, especially in relation to temperature.



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: intergalactic fire

They've done lab tests on mice, I think the estimates is about 10% brain loss every 6 month, meaning an astronaut heading to Mars would be 40-60% brain dead.

The ISS is still guarded by our magnetic field, not sure if they tested astronauts of the Apollo missions or if you could without dissection.

We'd still have atmosphere though and it'll take a lot of the brunt, the effect I suppose would rely heavily on how long the magnetosphere is weakened, how much hits ground and what that exactly is.

I'm guessing a lot of it is informed guess work.



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: intergalactic fire



I do not think it really matters what causes it

Yes and No.
I believe it really would help for prevention or eventually preparations.
To know the specific cause can help us a great deal in 'effective treatment' just like a disease or solving any problem.
But if the SHTF, survival experience is more important I guess.

Although, there aren't major signs within history that during shifts, plant and animal life suffer extensive difficulties.
We have survived previous shift so why wouldn't we do so with the next one?

I believe the only studies we have on spaceweather and human health comes from astronauts.
I don't know if the Apollo astronauts suffered any particular diseases related to their space exploration.



Who says we have survived, these shifts take 1000's of years to complete. Also, the current civilization relies on technology that could be rendered obsolete if there is a major geo-magnetic storm unleashed due to the weakening of the magnetosphere. There is surviving and there is survival. There is living and being alive.



posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 02:42 PM
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The thing is, since a geomagnetic storm is actually the "wiggling" of the Earth's magnetic field, it seems that a weaker field may result in weaker geomagnetic storms.



But this, is just wrong:

Think of it like this, one day the Earth is wearing a hat and using an umbrella to protect us and the next day the wind blows and makes the umbrella tip over to the side, it still offers protection, but it has shifted where that protection is, allowing for other areas not protected by the hat to receive more direct sunlight, causing an unusual warming in certain areas, but the hat is still there.
The Earth's magnetic field has no effect on sunlight.



According to some information, the answer is a resounding, Yes! The Aurora has become visible further south in recent years.
Citation?
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posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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The ISS is still guarded by our magnetic field, not sure if they tested astronauts of the Apollo missions or if you could without dissection.

What I was trying to say that they didn't die prematurely.


Every living person to walk on the moon is past the average American life expectancy of 79 years.

and they were the ones furthest away from earth's shield.
dailycaller.com...
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posted on Feb, 13 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: sweetypie215

originally posted by: intergalactic fire



I do not think it really matters what causes it

Yes and No.
I believe it really would help for prevention or eventually preparations.
To know the specific cause can help us a great deal in 'effective treatment' just like a disease or solving any problem.
But if the SHTF, survival experience is more important I guess.

Although, there aren't major signs within history that during shifts, plant and animal life suffer extensive difficulties.
We have survived previous shift so why wouldn't we do so with the next one?

I believe the only studies we have on spaceweather and human health comes from astronauts.
I don't know if the Apollo astronauts suffered any particular diseases related to their space exploration.



Who says we have survived, these shifts take 1000's of years to complete. Also, the current civilization relies on technology that could be rendered obsolete if there is a major geo-magnetic storm unleashed due to the weakening of the magnetosphere. There is surviving and there is survival. There is living and being alive.

Yes it's probably that our technological world would suffer great damage, but have no way of knowing.
Just wanted to point out we have survived the last reversal 41.000 years ago(Laschamps event) and still are alive today no?
This reversal didn't took thousands years to complete but just 440 years.
phys.org...



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 08:26 AM
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True, though exposure time was limited, it's an astronauts last trip if he/she absorbs so much radiation. NASA is very serious about it.

It's worth noting that astronauts tend to be very healthy people, I imagine they get top notch health care too.

A few astronauts have gotten cancer.

Moon disease



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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Thanks for that, wasn't aware of that.

Do you believe the risks are linear or exponential or other? (connection between exposure and distance from the earth)
If you understand what I'm trying to say, sorry for my bad english



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:36 AM
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Your English is fine


I think the biggest factor of all is that we have very limited results and for the most part all we can do is replicate within a lab scenario on creatures that are not human beings.

I think it's safe to say that radiation and it's effects are taken very seriously. This is true for anyone working around radiation such as X-ray machines or transporting radioactive materials.

I'd guess that luck can have a hand in it. Carcinogenic energy/particles has a high chance of passing straight through the body and not hit anything I think.

I think it's chance.

I talked to a guy who used to transport X-ray machines and other cargo classed as radioactive. Sometimes the device they use to say they cannot work anymore (they've had their dose) could go off in hours or days. Even heard stories of them purposefully getting their dose so they got paid leave.

Space is nasty. If the sun was a grenade then it's safe to assume that the further away you are from it the less chance you'll have of catching a bit of shrapnel. Do you know what I mean?

The "shrapnel" could pass straight through you and have no I'll effect too, it's hard to conclude radiation damage of DNA since such damage is usually only visible after symptoms develop.

Like I originally said, we are not exactly dissecting astronauts when they come back to earth. Many have developed cancer though.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 09:42 PM
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No but where the magnetic field is weakened, exposure and an increase in radiation has to occur. So, yes because there is less protection in specific areas they will be exposed to more intensity.

I realize you are smarter than me, so I will defer to your desire to ridicule me.



posted on Feb, 15 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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With a greatly weakened, or absent, magnetic field cosmic radiation would increase on the surface. The result would not be catastrophic though it might result in a slight increase in cancer incidence across the planet.

I have no idea if I am "smarter" than you but I have been interested in space weather for some time. I you think that an effort to inform is the same as ridicule you will continue in ignorance and fear.



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