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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
This isn't an example of critical thought, reason, debate, the enlightenment, nor democracy, the very things these kids should be learning. This is an example of progressivism, activism, disruption, iconoclasm, groupthink and mob threat against history, language and other people's property.
Do you think you understand what the word sanctimonious means?
You have an opinion - a point of view
You don't approve of some people's behavior
Im not sure why you always end up making it about me instead of the topic, but once again, I'm flattered. To be honest, maybe debating things like this isn't your thing, because you cannot seem to keep your opponent out of your mouth.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: ketsuko
...nope. See, my ego isn't that big, or out of control, that I would need a building named after me. I see your point, and don't necessarily disagree.
I judge these things on a case by case basis. If the building were to be named after Mother Teresa, I'd probably disagree with the name being changed. In this instance, a reprehensible mans attempt at immortality is being, at least somewhat, damaged, and I'm all for it.
University officials said on Saturday that the school will not remove symbols of Calhoun on campus, such as engravings and a statue that tops the landmark Harkness Tower. It also will not discourage alumni if they want to continue associating with the Calhoun name instead of that of Grace Hopper College.
In 2016, after sustained discussion and controversy, the Yale corporation decided to retain the name.
“The decision to change a college’s name is not one we take lightly,” the Yale president, Peter Salovey, said on Saturday. “But John C Calhoun’s legacy as a white supremacist and a national leader who passionately promoted slavery as a ‘positive good’ fundamentally conflicts with Yale’s mission and values.”
There are some people who believe protesting should not be reserved for speaking for the voiceless, or raising awareness of tyranny or oppression, but to pressure authorities to change language and history. Interesting position. But that's not democracy; that's ochlocracy.
Interesting disconnect. Tyranny and oppression - the voiceless...these things don't exist here in present day America? Just authority that should never be pressured to change
I'd love to hear your actual argument for why the name Calhoun should remain - forever. It was meant to honor him. Should we honor people forever - just because of tradition and history? They should deserve our respect here in the present too I think