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originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: irenialilivenka
Did Jesus die on a cross, was he buried, and was his tomb found empty?
TextThe Messiah does not only come as a concurring king but also as the suffering servant (read Isaiah 53), and in verse 7 you have this explaining that Christ was the suffering servant. The fact that God would die for sins is expressed in the names of Genesis 5, below is a list of the following with their meaning out to the right:
Adam Man
Seth Appointed
Enosh Mortal
Kenan Sorrow;
Mahalalel The Blessed God
Jared Shall come down
Enoch Teaching
Methuselah His death shall bring(flood comes at death of Methuselah)
Lamech The Despairing
Noah Rest, or comfort.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: irenialilivenka
Well, thanks for showing us that you disagree with three of the best established facts about Jesus due to confirmation bias. I can't even take you seriously. Muhammad is a false prophet.
originally posted by: SafePlace
a reply to: irenialilivenka
Yes he prays for you all to stop whining to him all the time. Especially on Sundays.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: irenialilivenka
Well, thanks for showing us that you disagree with three of the best established facts about Jesus due to confirmation bias. I can't even take you seriously. Muhammad is a false prophet.
So, "ServantoftheLamb"....how do you know that Jesus was "God in the flesh"? (at least by the above).
Jesus never claimed to be "god" nor did He want to be worshipped as "god".
28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” 33 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.
35 Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Jesus said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.” 38 Then the man said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him. 39 Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind.”
what the above means is, GOD came down by inhabiting a human vessel (and that's exactly what Jesus was...a human vessel), because the Father HAD TO, in order to show everyone (including the Jews who worshipped YHWH), that HE WAS THE REAL DEAL.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: irenialilivenka
Please prove using historical documents that Jesus never died on the cross. Give me just one historical source that says he wasn't crucified from the 1st to 3rd century. Sorry but Muhammad comes 5 to 6 hundred years later. I don't think he really counts as a reliable historical source on Jesus.