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USA Today / ACLU tell illegals what to do if ICE comes knocking

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posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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Just take a look at the opening fear mongering, propaganda sentence.


Roundups of undocumented immigrants across the country have sent immigrant rights advocates to social media, blasting out information in multiple languages on how those caught up in such raids should respond.


Roundups across the country?


"The rash of recent reports about purported ICE checkpoints and random sweeps are false, dangerous, and irresponsible," ICE said in a statement.

David Marin, ICE's field office director for enforcement and removal operations in greater Los Angeles, said an enforcement sweep in California was in the planning stages "before the administration came out with their current executive orders."
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USA Today and the ACLU among other groups have decided to tell illegal immigrants what to do if ICE comes knocking.


If Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents show up at the door, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) advises not opening it unless the agents can show a warrant signed by a judge. "Ask to see it (through a window or slipped under the door,"

ICE administrative warrants don't allow agents to enter a home without the consent of the residents. Residents can ask through the door why the agents are there and request an interpreter if they need one.

If there is no warrant, ask the agents to leave information outside.

Immigrant communities fearful after hundreds arrested in what feds call routine 'surge'
If the agents force their way into the home, "don't resist. Tell everyone in the residence to remain silent," the ACLU says.

If you are arrested "remain silent and do not sign anything until you speak to a lawyer," the graphic said.

The Immigrant Defense Project, which offers legal information for immigrants and attorneys working with immigration cases, advises undocumented immigrants to have a plan in place for what they will do if they or a family member is arrested.

"Do not lie to ICE but remember that you do have the right to stay silent!" the flyer said.

The group United We Dream, which focuses on immigrant youth, issued fliers in Arabic, Chinese, Korean, Spanish and English.

It counsels those dealing with ICE agents to report and record everything that happens, unless they are on federal government property.

"Take notes of badge numbers, number of agents, time, type of car and exactly what happened!" the flyer said.




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The term "undocumented immigrants" is just a propaganda term anyway, used to sway public opinion. After all, how many would support politicians openly supporting something "illegal"? Undocumented is much easier to sell and defend.

Where were these people in 2012?
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posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:09 AM
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Illegals have rights?



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
Illegals have rights?


They do, it has been settled Constitutional law for a very long time.



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123

They get the same constitutional rights as citizens as long as they are in our borders.



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: FauxMulder
They get the same constitutional rights as citizens as long as they are in our borders.


To be technical they get anything that would be considered 'equal protection' under the 5th and 14th Amendments.



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Arnie123
Illegals have rights?


They do, it has been settled Constitutional law for a very long time.


can you possibly supply a source?



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: brutus61



Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886).

Wong Wing v. U.S. (1896).

Plyler v. Doe (1982).



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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i have no problem with this. People should know their rights, especially if they are here illegally. I have no idea what kinds of people are being "rounded up", but i certainly hope its not moms and dads just going about their business. If Trump wants to lose a lot of potential supporters i cant think of many better ways to do it than targeting otherwise law abiding people.



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: FauxMulder

I am very much against illegal immigration but I am never against someone being advised of their rights.

Yes, they have rights.



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:24 AM
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What's the outrage over? All those points are common sense and what any individual accused of a crime should do.

ICE and all other law enforcement agents should be respecting those points as well.


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posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: FauxMulder

I think your OP illustrates that the foundation of the ACLU was un-American and remains so, the following quote is the founders statement:

"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is, of course, the goal.” ACLU founder Roger Baldwin, 1935


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posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: rockintitz

Everyone should know their rights, yes.The point is the hypocrisy. Where were these outraged groups for the last 8 years when Obama deported more than any other president?

The media is trying to make it seem like mass deportations and roundups are going on. All because of evil Trump.



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:30 AM
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I wouldn't worry about it since the pamphlet is written in English…

Illegals often spend their entire lives in Texas never bothering with learning the language of the land…

-Chris
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posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:30 AM
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So tell me where in the US constitution it says people and/or illegals have the right to resist arrest?



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:31 AM
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originally posted by: tribal
i have no problem with this. People should know their rights, especially if they are here illegally. I have no idea what kinds of people are being "rounded up", but i certainly hope its not moms and dads just going about their business. If Trump wants to lose a lot of potential supporters i cant think of many better ways to do it than targeting otherwise law abiding people.


So if somebody broke into your house and began living there against your will, you would be cool and want them to know their rights?



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: FauxMulder


The term "undocumented immigrants" is just a propaganda term anyway, used to sway public opinion. After all, how many would support politicians openly supporting something "illegal"? Undocumented is much easier to sell and defend.


Anyone who breaks any law, is, basically, a criminal. It can be something simple... like failing to pay a parking ticket or exceeding the speed limit. But, regardless, it's all breaking rules and regulations that were made to make society work.

If an American crossed a border into Mexico illegally, they'd be arrested and jailed.
If an American entered Iran or Syria illegally, they'd be arrested, if not killed.

Rules are rules and laws are laws. If one wants any of them changed, focus on those who change them, not those who break them. That's just simply logical.

Have a nice day


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posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Yes apparently illegals are more equal than us since they get to blatantly ignore our laws and get away with it.



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: Christosterone

Psst!


The group United We Dream, which focuses on immigrant youth, issued fliers in Arabic, Chinese, Korean, Spanish and English.



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: DaveButts
What's the outrage over? All those points are common sense and what any individual accused of a crime should do.

ICE and all other law enforcement agents should be respecting those points as well.

The illegal should be respecting our borders and our laws. You don't expect respect out of them, do you?



posted on Feb, 12 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: redoubt
Anyone who breaks any law, is, basically, a criminal. It can be something simple... like failing to pay a parking ticket or exceeding the speed limit.


Vehicular offenses like speeding and parking are not criminal offenses.




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