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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes
Agreed, I have had conversations with liberals/leftists about lets say abortion. I am my usual charming self, logical and measured. It ends with a f word and I am a German WW II leader. Real fun, and it happens often.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: veracity
Here's the thing - as far as me and my first level thinking goes
I see the left as being willing to argue with itself, offer up mea culpas and sometimes eat it's own self alive trying to figure out where it is, or where it went wrong. The left fights with itself as much as it does with anyone else. If that sounds like virtue signaling, maybe it is. But while saying that might mean I think we're better - that's not what I mean at all. It just is - both good and bad
I don't see the more right leaning folk as being willing to criticize themselves (as obviously or as much). They are strong in their beliefs, and much more of a cohesive group than the left. This is also a good thing and a bad thing. I believe in irony - but I don't believe that we are ironically more the same than different. It should be obvious to all of us right about now that the way we think is very different
It's our humanity that makes us the same, in most ways that are important, but our politics - whether it's nature or nurture - are different. Sometimes it takes all our differences working together, or in a civilized way against each other to keep the herd strong. As it were :-)
We are stronger together - but we are not in that place now
We all have our fallback positions - and those don't require us to think. I'm biased - and I'm not capable of denying that, I'm not going to even pretend that my beliefs don't lie in a certain area of anybody's political chart or graph
That doesn't mean I don't understand other positions, or even agree with them sometimes. That doesn't mean I have to agree with their approach, or their choices. As far as having an agenda - I absolutely do. Love, peace, co-existence, freedom to be who you are so long as your freedom doesn't hurt anybody else. Simple
More virtue signaling - but I know people on the right want the same things, they just approach all that differently
When I hear people repeatedly say the left wants them to shut up, or wants them dead - they've crossed a line. They say they want free speech, but they don't want protests, they don't like SJWs, snowflakes - all of this designed to accomplish what? They want the left to shut up, back down and go away. I can see that when they see the left rising up the way it has been recently - this scares them
I don't know what comes next, but when people start accusing one group of wanting them dead - that sounds like a preamble to me. We should take that seriously
originally posted by: seasonal
Are you one of the people who are rioting?
Have you drug your Trump voter out of a car today and beat his ass?
Have you had rubber bullets shot at you in the last 12 weeks?
This story more than likely does not apply to you.