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originally posted by: LittleBurgh
a reply to: TarzanBeta
No need to be snarky just because you don't agree with me. It's completely fine with me that you disagree but you didn't present any information for me to read or study to advance my education. If I'm incorrect, I am more than happy to admit it.
Current science clearly states that all elements heavier that iron are produced by dying stars. Stars begin their death processes when they've used all their hydrogen & oxygen fuel & begin the process called fusion where the temperature & pressure of that star is so great it can create iron. When iron is created in a star, it's going to die & go through the supernova then dwarf phases. During those phases, iron & all the heavy elements are ejected into open space and can be collected by gravitational pull to make planets & other bodies. The ejections (atoms & ions of elements as well as complex molecules) from stars can travel billions of miles before being collected by a gravitational force or they may just continue throughout deep space as free elements.
I did not say anything about our star (the sun) providing the heavy elements & iron to create the earth & life as we know it. Obviously, if our sun was creating iron, it would be on the verge of going supernova & we'd all be toast. I did, however, mention the theory that our sun might have been part of a binary system in which the second star may have already become a brown dwarf. There is a brown dwarf, one of many recently discovered, arxiv.org... , that may, and I emphasize may, have been part of our sun's binary system.
Cutting edge technology, astronomers & astrophysicists all have come to the same conclusions. We know for a fact (right now, it could all change next year) that the creation of iron in a star is the death sign and beginning of fusion & we know for fact (again, science is an evolving process), that dying stars become supernovas that eject the heavy metals into space. Earth & life on earth was created by the death of ancient, distant stars' supernovas' ejections which provided the atoms & elements pulled together by a gravitational force creating a tiny orb which had great enough mass & rotation to create a stronger gravitational field attracting even more atoms finally creating an entire planet.
Sorry for disputing your opinion. I'll be sure to check back for your other theories of which I may not be aware. Have a great evening!!
originally posted by: LittleBurgh
...The capsule, slowed by the parachute, was supposed to be "snagged" by a helicopter in mid-air (a rather audacious plan)...
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: LittleBurgh
Outstanding , thanks for the detail. I didn't know the return portion of the instrument package had crash-landed. That would explain what I saw in the in the Genesis images. Considering the 'mass' portion of a coronal mass ejection how close do you suppose we would have to be to the flare to be destroyed by, not the heat and blast, but the 'mass' part?
I guess its a dumb question, the flux is mass but in atom and subatomic form, right? Too small to actually hit like a hammer would, just penetrate us and hole us on a subatomic level.The reason I ask is sometimes these particles strike the imager chip in SOHO cameras and look like they fragment and spray shrapnel...?
lower left, this image
The CCD chip inside the camera is of a similar composition to the capture plates, do you suppose the strike is from particles that are smaller than atoms, the same size or larger (as in clusters of atoms)? What 'fragments' when it hits the substrate?
Thanks again for taking the time to enlighten us.
originally posted by: Bigburgh
Now back on subject.
What concerns me is the amount of Iron that was ccaptured.
We all know that the sun will not last forever.
Once a star starts to produce Iron Symbol: Fe
Atomic mass: 55.845 u ± 0.002 u....
It's a sign that the star is dying. Scientists say it's instant death, but it takes millions of Earth's years to happen.