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Marine Forced To Evacuate Iraq After Telling The Chilling Truth About Trump’s Travel Ban

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posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 12:27 AM
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originally posted by: Reverbs

originally posted by: crazyewok


If Russia invaded the USA and occupied it......what would you do to a Russian solder walking around?


If you invade and destroy the country they are hardly going to welcome you with open arms?


And would the Russians knowing I want to kill them let me into their country?

Follow the entire line of logic.

Even if it were true that those cultures just all the sudden started hating western civilization, because of being bombed you still don't want them coming in freely. But in fact they have not liked us for quite a very long time. We are devils to them.



People with no personal experience with them don't seem to get that. Sure they're professional, friendly, etc. But they follow the teachings of the Koran and anyone who isn't Muslim is an infidel. Period.

It's not gray like most western religions/Christianity. Where forgiveness and understanding are the cornerstones. Islam is pretty black and white...at least that's what my research and personal experience has taught me.

They're extremely devout and dedicated to their religion and it's teaching. If anyone denies that then they're mistaken and know very little about it.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, their devotion...everyone in the US has a right to freedom of religion and I respect that. But these folks getting on about how nice their coworkers are, or their neighbors are SO the rest of them must be nice too do not get it.

My personal experience has been nothing but a nightmare. Trying to get my 19 yr old daughter safely away from a physically abusive and convicted stalker taught me a lot. I seriously thought that dude would end up killing her or my husband him...Thank God we were able to gtfo and move 1200 miles away. That definitely helped.

I've also had a few girl friends who were in relationships with them. None of their relationships ended on a good note, not one. Some worse than others...One ended really badly. It's only after they broke up that she shared what really went on during their time together.

Btw, none of them (the men) were from the US. Maybe it's because they were all so different from each other it didn't work out, idk...




posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: watchitburn

Look up the current immigrant and refugee program it can take up to two years because of all the background checks being done through multiple countries. There is no need for the ban.



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
An American walking down the street of a nation that we bombed to hell and back might be killed while walking down the street. What a shock. Just more fear the Muslim propaganda. It should work well with the simple minded.


yes, it's true that Americans can only blame themselves for that.

but that rises the question that he asked, are Americans so naive to let them in their own country afterwards? "oh noes, they are the victims, just let them be and kill us all in revenge"?



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 01:21 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Look at all the people who would have defended the Nazis. Sadly in some ways we are acting like them. We are invading nations for no reason. We are demonizing the religion of a whole group of people just so it will be easier to start violence against those people. It worked for Hitler when he was against the jews and its working for Donnie against the Muslims.

Typical twisting of the facts. Yes...we should end our "Nation Building" and leave most countries alone. But we haven't "demonized a religion". Members of Islam are radicalized and a threat to world peace. They need to be destroyed. Everyone knows that means the radical terrorists and NOT the peaceful Muslims. However...when you look for terrorists, anyone with a brain knows to look at the Muslims. That isn't demonizing...that is fact and experience.

I won't even touch you comparing the apocalypse unleashed upon the "Jews" that you compare to Muslims who have murdered, committed genocide and terrorism. I think you are bordering on insane if you think there is any comparison there.



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 02:21 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Willtell




The guy is a self centered moron.


So being concerned for you life makes you a self centered moron? Yeah that sounds about right. You know, I think you should go out and protest that sort of thing. I mean I know I am tired of all these people, who's lives are in danger, speaking up about it. They should just keep their mouths shut.

I am trying to see how you are using logic and reasoning, but I am afraid I have failed. You can't get blood from a turnip I guess.


He’s a moron for suggesting Iraqis are natural enemies of America and not a victim of American aggression something you seem to forget yourself.


Would an American have issues walking around amongst the Iraqi society before the American Invasion?

No!



The question should be, would an American have issues walking around amongst the Iraqi society before the invasion but during a travel ban... I think the answer is yes, same danger, what do you think?

You get evil people that will do crazy things everywhere as pointed out in this thread. However, I feel you will find more of them in muslim countries. They certainly appear to have harsher punishments for crimes for example. Like being stoned to death or having limbs amputated. That goes on in Saudi Arabia even, one of our allies.

I think these people do grow up in a much more brutal culture than we do! Even when America has the death sentence and it's for say a mass murderer or something, first of all every effort is made to rehabilitate, when that fails he is killed as humanly as possible, at least some effort has been made to make it humane and fast. That's just not the case in the middle east, they seem very vindictive and want people to suffer as much as possible... Can you imagine being stoned to death in public? Can you imagine being the person throwing the stones? It's something completely unacceptable and alien to us.

EDIT: But I do see the point regarding the invasion etc, I was and am fully against the invasion and occupation. Still it means they shouldn't be visiting your country if they want to do you harm in retaliation.
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posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 02:55 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Quite frankly, say Russia invaded the US. If I saw a Russian soldier and opportunity, he'd be snatched up and dead within the hour.
It's all about perspective, you see. So, I don't buy what this guy is selling.



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

I saw this video circulating on Facebook. Awesome. As food for thought, I'd like to add this meme that's also circulating on Facebook....

"Can a Muslim be a good American/Canadian/western civilization?

Theologically - no, because his allegiance is to Allah.

Religiously - no, because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Qur'an 2:256).

Scripturally - no, because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Qur'an.

Geographically - no, because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no, because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no, because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders) who teach the annihilation of Israel and the destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically - no, because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat his wife when she disobeys him (Qur'an 4:34).

Intellectually - no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Qur'an does not allow freedom of religion and expression.

Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist! Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no, because when we declare 'one nation under God,' we are referring to the Christian's God and not Allah.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation, perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans/Canadians; they cannot and will not integrate into the great melting pot of America.

The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. Muslims everywhere have said they will destroy us from within"



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Does this not just reinforce the temporary travel ban? It's not even in effect and they switch to killing Americans so easily? Very concerning if you ask me. Like if they get mad, they just might join ISIS and perform terror. Is it that easily for a everyday muslim to switch? It brings up more questions than answers.



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: Black_Foxi disagree i have walked the streets of several magor cities late at night including the ones you citied and not in the rich fru fru sections but in the run down poor sections and i wasn't accosted are attacked or mugged. why because i respected the people there.




posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: Black_Fox

Try walking down the streets of Milwaukee or Chicago or Baltimore at night.



That's what I was gonna say.

There are plenty places in America you don't wanna go walking around alone if you're not a local.

I once got escorted by a police car to a fwy on-ramp in inner city Los Angeles. And that was in a car, not walking.



edit on 11-2-2017 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: watchitburn

Look up the current immigrant and refugee program it can take up to two years because of all the background checks being done through multiple countries. There is no need for the ban.


Except that short term travel visas are issued much more quickly. As are student visas and H1-B's...

Trump doesn't want them here - period - hence the travel ban.



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: buster2010
An American walking down the street of a nation that we bombed to hell and back might be killed while walking down the street. What a shock. Just more fear the Muslim propaganda. It should work well with the simple minded.


Hmmm... So, you agree that the common, regular people from this particular nation will kill you as an American if they get the chance and have no problem allowing these same people into the continental United States?

Do you see how crazy that sounds?



It's called madness. Simply put, it's time to stop listening to the liberals and do what must be done. unfortunately, the attack and attempted coup is imminent the more they allow these muslims in. The liberals are digging their own grave by allowing them in. Don't be them and listen to the voice of reason. Who knows how many are in the u.s by now, even underground.



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 01:56 PM
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Some of them probably do want to kill us, but only because we went to their country and bombed em to hell to get Saddam. I did not support the war, but it's over now and can't be changed. What do I think about the ban? I think it's hamfisted and needs to be rewritten. Do I think we should be cautious about letting people in from those 7 countries? Yes. Homeland security named them as "nations of concern." Should we outright ban everybody from coming here from those 7 countries? Probably not. Trump needs to get his people together and rewrite it. If viable, they should use congress so it's balanced and not shortlived . But will it really do any good? Probably not. Terrorists will get to us one way or another. There're so many lies and so much corruption, there's no way to fully prevent it. HOWEVER, we should still do the prudent thing. To do nothing and treat these 7 seven nations as equal to any other--including allies--would be too irresponsible. We also have to keep in mind the war on terrorism isn't a conventional war. Terrorist is flexible and distributed. There's no single country or single leader. This war could go on indefinitely and spread to different places. So we have to change with the circumstances.

Nobody likes it, and I hate to say it. But the ultimate answer to terrorism doesn't have to be pleasant. Many things in life are this way and we already know. It's a bitter pill. The answer will be blurring of country, creed and culture. A kind of world government will form from the ashes of nations. A world identity will gradually replace regional identities. It will happen as an inevitable result of advancing technology and information exchange between nations. There's nothing we can do to stop it. It will naturally reduce and contain terrorism and war. However, this shield of safety will only include Earth and perhaps the moon. Beyond this small region of space, conflict of this sort will exist and in fact grow. The reason this is the case is because we cannot control and enforce the law in an area that size. Just as a nation can outstrip its ability to maintain itself, law and order will collapse for the same reason.
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posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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A bunch of genius in here, iraq was attacked twice by americans, but yea its your freedom and the ban that makes them hate you guys.



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
A bunch of genius in here, iraq was attacked twice by americans, but yea its your freedom and the ban that makes them hate you guys.



In that respect, americans and Iraqi's had a common enemy. The US government, the Mainstream Media and those who control policy. American's would have loved that 2 trillion in infrastructure, healthcare or education rather than bombing bomb people.

I think Muslims will not be too violent in the West until Jiyza(Welfare) is cut off. Muslims have a great gig in the west, make the unbelievers pay them to sit around.



posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: jellyrev

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
A bunch of genius in here, iraq was attacked twice by americans, but yea its your freedom and the ban that makes them hate you guys.



In that respect, americans and Iraqi's had a common enemy. The US government, the Mainstream Media and those who control policy. American's would have loved that 2 trillion in infrastructure, healthcare or education rather than bombing bomb people.

I think Muslims will not be too violent in the West until Jiyza(Welfare) is cut off. Muslims have a great gig in the west, make the unbelievers pay them to sit around.


Sorry you make no sense, you must be a trump fan.


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posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 06:32 PM
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The USA destroyed Iraq and from the smoking crater a border crossing civil war erupted that continues to this day.

We owe it to those who wish to flee the region any opportunity to get out of the hellhole the USA made there.

Why they would trust us with their lives is a different matter, but if the USA is to have any credibility left on the planet its a requirement we take in the refugees we helped create.
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posted on Feb, 11 2017 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: [post=21884275]jonnywhite[ the real problem with the war in iraq is that 1 it was in ieaq not the country to the south who actually attacked us on 9/11 and 2 it was just the bush trying to make a name for himself. saddam had for years kept most of the radicals in check that is why we supported his regime so long



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