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Mother taken into custody after decades in U.S.; 7 arrested in Phoenix protest

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posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Grambler

I did not see what see done. My bad.

We might be twisted, but at least we don't think nonsensical walls and Muslim bans are the solution to our problems.




Well don't speak to fast!


A majority of Europeans want a ban on immigration from Muslim-majority countries, a poll has revealed.

An average of 55 per cent of people across the 10 European countries surveyed wanted to stop all future immigration from mainly Muslim countries.

The Chatham House study, conducted before US President Donald Trump signed an executive order banning immigration to the US from seven predominantly Muslim countries, found majorities in all but two of the ten states opposed immigration from mainly Muslim countries.


www.independent.co.uk... html

Says 47% of the UK wants Muslims banned. 30% are on the fence, and 23% disagree. Who knows about plls, but are you certain you speak for the UK when you say they don't want a ban?




posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake
I don't hate my government.

I distrust them about some things. I wish they would stop the war profiteering and acceptable insider trading. It would be nice to see any of the real criminals brought to justice. But that's not a majority, I don't think. They have a country to run and somebody's got to do it.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 02:45 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
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I would have thought that being married and having children who are US citizens automatically qualified one for citizenship?
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Nope.
Too many people abused that by faking marriages just to stay in the country.
However, being married does give you a valid reason to apply and work towards citizenship.

I have a relative going through that right now. They married and have a baby, but his wife, being from Africa, just got her green card. Previously they traveled back and forth between countries with their passports.
(ETA: Her baby was born here, so she is also the mother of a US citizen.)
It was an intensive process. They had to provide all kinds of documents, written referrals from other US citizens validating that their marriage was true, there were background checks, etc. They were also interviewed separately, and needed to answer all kinds of questions to prove that they know each other intimately.

It is a process, but it can be done.
People who don't go through the effort to do things legally do not deserve to have the same benefits as those who have worked for their citizenship.



edit on 2/9/17 by BlueAjah because: eta



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

"but are you certain you speak for the UK when you say they don't want a ban?"

Nope im not certain, but certainly hope we don't go down that road.

I am certain that most of the people i associate don't feel that way.

Muslims are simply people like everyone else, religious fanatics aside, i don't have a problem with them.
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posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: galaga
Is the husband a US citizen? Couldn't she have went that route?


no, according to the article he is not so he is keeping a low profile..not going on camera...they were both brought here as teenagers......I know someone from Peru who just became a citizen of the usa...took 25 years...that lady should have gotten the ball rolling a long time ago

here is a quote about her husband

Garcia de Rayos' husband does not have legal status and did not want to be identified. "Basically we are Americans," he said. "This is our country. We were brought here when we were teens."

The executive orders
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posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 02:52 PM
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a reply to: Noncents

Maybe hates to strong a word, but distrust does indeed seem to hit the nail on the head.

Real criminals will never be brought to justice because that would include the bankers and there political brethren aka the people who make the laws and control the show.
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posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: xuenchen

How can a woman never mind her nationality be removed from her husband and two children?

Does the fact that's shes married to a US citizen and have children that are also US citizens not matter at all???

If that is indeed the way of it your nation is significantly more screwed up than i imagined.


Get well soon America.


That's what happens when you break the law. Would you rather us send the illegal aliens to your house? I'm sure we can get something drawn up, it's not like Mexico wants them back either.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: karmicecstasy

There is no way to know if she was the "first".
She is just the first that the MSM decided to make an example of.
They are trying to sway public opinion.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake


Real criminals will never be brought to justice...


So identity theft on top of illegal immigration are fake crimes?

Not that I disagree with the remainder of your statement, there are plenty of bankers running around free who should be restricted in their movements due to bars and fences, but that doesn't make what this lady done any less illegal.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: xuenchen

I'm glad to hear there were at least some other mitigating circumstance to her being detained and/or deported because for a minute there i was a laboring under the illusion that some poor woman had been dragged away from her family and kids just down to her being of foreign origin.


I would have thought that being married and having children who are US citizens automatically qualified one for citizenship?

What did she do that landed her is gaol, do you know?


If a white person is born in Mexico and comes to America and commits a crime while here illegally, back to Mexico that white person goes. It has absolutely nothing to do with your damn origin. My fiance is best friends with a red headed girl with emerald green eyes that has a squeaky little American accent but speaks fluent Spanish because she was born and raised in Mexico for almost 18 years. She had to get papers to come here and live legally. Had she not, and she was pulled over for driving drunk 3 times, she'd be deported back to Mexico.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Grambler

I did not see what see done. My bad.

We might be twisted, but at least we don't think nonsensical walls and Muslim bans are the solution to our problems.




Perhaps you should start thinking about that then.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: LSU0408

Like i said i did not know she was a known felon. My bad.

Plenty of illegal aliens over here also, and no they cant all come and stay in my house, hardly room to swing a cat im afraid(not that i would do that).


Problem being, is Mexico willing to take them all back? I mean this could possibly involve millions of people, what happens when Mexico turns around and says no, where do they go then?
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posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: TinfoilTP

To be fair i have lived next to many refuges and understand the problems associated with such, but they are not all thieving bastards coming to take you stuff.

Some if not most are just people looking for a better life.


One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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on one hand i feel this lady should have the opportunity to stay if she has been working and not living off welfare, on the other hand i also wonder why she didn't try to become legal after all these years.

hopefully we can get the good hard working illegals to search out that path to citizenship. hit them up with a $5000 fine and make them citizens. deport the violent felons and welfare cheats.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: LSU0408

What walls and Muslim bans?

No thanks we have quite enough to contend with already.

No point in adding more fuel to the fire.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: LSU0408

That's a hell of an ideology to apply to people through.

Bordering on belligerent!



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: LSU0408

Like i said i did not know she was a known felon. My bad.

Plenty of illegal aliens over here also, and no they cant all come and stay in my house, hardly room to swing a cat im afraid(not that i would do that).


Problem being, is Mexico willing to take them all back? I mean this could possibly involves millions of people, what happens when Mexico turns around and says no, where do they go then?


The initial plan is to send back the criminals. I know you won't take them at your house, nobody would, that's kind of the point of bringing it up. Kind of a "gotcha" question, sorry. Things are a lot worse here than the news outlets lead people to believe though.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: LSU0408

What walls and Muslim bans?

No thanks we have quite enough to contend with already.

No point in adding more fuel to the fire.


In my opinion, letting the refugees in IS adding fuel to the fire. We've got enough trouble, no sense in piling on top of it.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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I hope her illegal husband is crapping bricks right now wondering when ICE will be grabbing him next.

I went to high school with a guy that I later found out was illegal. He was arrested for burglary and deported. 2 weeks later he was back in the US with a different name and a new haircut. He even made a new facebook account with his new name and sent me a friend request. He has been deported 3 times overall and each time is back within weeks.

Point im making is she will be back in a few weeks and back to hiding.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: LSU0408

That's a hell of an ideology to apply to people through.

Bordering on belligerent!


That analogy came out in reference to people.



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