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Senate Letter Reveals Staggering Number Of Murders By Illegal Aliens With Previous Criminal

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posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: TheBulk

Perhaps if you read the article I posted you would get a broader picture. You know, the article which the story in the OP is about?
We are talking about immigration. Legal as well as otherwise.



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posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Wow - interesting yet sad/terrible.

This letter should be required reading for all mayors of "Sanctuary Cities".

That entire concept just astounds and disgusts me. I cannot believe we as a nation allow that concept to exist.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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But apparently virtue signaling how pro immigrant they are is more important to these cities than the people that may die as a result of there inaction.


More Americans die at the hands of fellow Americans when compared to:


Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials confirm that 121 homicides were committed in the U.S. between 2010-2014 by illegal immigrants


Sanctuary cities reflect humanitarian ideals and therefore not a "dumb" idea.



They act like nothing bad ever happens, but here are over 100 murders that could have been avoided if we had the mechanism set up to deport these violent criminals.


True. You guys need better vetting process for immigrants along with better immigration laws and a better judicial system for both immigrants and citizens. The issue you highlight is not inclusive to immigrants. Just look at cities like Chicago...

I do agree with you that these 121 murders could of been avoided. However, America has much bigger fish to fry when it comes to the absurdly high murder rate...



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr

These criminals that keep coming here committing crimes, get arrested and released, are the ones smuggling guns, drugs and undocumented workers.

The slaves feed Big Agro slave labor pool here, the drugs and guns drive the US justice system.

Round and round.


Exactly! People keep whining about the failure of the 'war on drugs'! I keep telling them it is what has given police, lawyers, judges, prisons and corrections officers a major part of their funding. If you ended illegal drugs today it would cause mass unemployment in those industries within a few years. War is good in America in whatever form it takes if you are in government or a supplier of the same. Ridiculous people are blond to these realities.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: Involutionist

Your humanitarian ideal argument is a bad one. Prisons don't reflect humanitarian ideals, so lets get rid of them too.

The fact is sanctuary cities will lead to criminals being able rto run free, and people being victimized, and all because it makes people feel good.

Take you story about humanitarian ideals to the family of some woman that was killed by an illegal that the feds asked a city to hold on to, but they let go so they could "feel good".

And yes there are other problems like a high murder rate in this country. But when we try to discuss it we are called racist, just like when we discuss sanctuary cities.

Oh well, those humanitarian ideals are there to comfort us while we ignore all of these murders.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: Phage

Most of these immigrant convicts are nationals of 23 countries described by ICE as “recalcitrant” because they routinely refuse to take back deportables. The bulk of these immigrant convicts in 2014 — 1,183 — were from Cuba, according to the letter.
www.miamiherald.com...=cpy

So, wet foot/dry foot? Bad idea?


Like Trump said about health care, immigration is "complicated."


I live here in Florida. The Mariel Boat Lift was back when Castro dumped out his prisons and let them come to Florida. It doesn't surprise me that they have such a large representation in crime statistics.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: spirit_horse

Thank you...

Millions of americans languish in jails and prison for minor drug crimes and yet these get a free pass out of the same justice system.



posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 06:17 PM
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So Trump is building a wall against Mexico yet the majority of crimes committed are by Cubans and others in this report?

Hundreds of immigrants convicted and not deported committed more crimes — even murder




The bulk of these immigrant convicts in 2014 — 1,183 — were from Cuba, according to the letter. The other “recalcitrant” countries include Afghanistan, Algeria, China, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia and Zimbabwe, according to ICE.


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posted on Feb, 9 2017 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

A letter written by the Senate Judiciary Committee in June 2015 to DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson, Secretary of State John Kerry and Attorney General Loretta Lynch reveals news facts about the number and nature of crimes committed by illegal immigrants who had already been convicted of other crimes but were released back into the public either because their home country would not accept their deportation and/or because they exceeded a Supreme Court mandate prohibiting detention of deportable foreign nationals beyond six months.


Ah the joys of selective data examination....

Here's a list of the top 30 cities with the highest murder rates. Guess how many are sanctuary cities:

Rank City
30 Washington, DC
29 Milwaukee, WI
28 East Chicago, IN
27 Desert Hot Springs, CA
26 Goldsboro, NC
25 Salinas, CA
24 Myrtle Beach, SC
23 Hartford, CT
22 Banning, CA
21 Bessemer, AL
20 Baton Rouge, LA
19 Youngstown, OH
18 Riviera Beach, FL
17 Jackson, MS
16 Cleveland, OH
15 Portsmouth, VA
14 Monroe, LA
13 Newark, NJ
12 Birmingham, AL
11 Wilmington, DE
10 Camden, NJ
9 New Orleans, LA
8 Detroit, MI
7 Flint, MI
6 Petersburg, VA
5 Baltimore, MD
4 St. Louis, MO
3 Gary, IN
2 Chester, PA
1 East St. Louis, IL

The top place for murders (St. Louis) is not a sanctuary city or sanctuary state. Neither is Chester, PA. I believe there's only one sanctuary city (Washington DC) on the list.

If you look at cities ranked by crime rate you find a similar pattern... sanctuary cities are not overrepresented on the list.

Of course, it's easy to pick a population and scare you about them. It used to be Jews, then it was Catholics, then Blacks. Hispanics are the new Scary Group along with Syrians. But if you just go out and look at the numbers, it'll show you that people like the op-ed article there on Zerohedge have a nice way to scare you but nothing other than their opinion to back up the title.

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