Originally posted by Starwars51
Originally posted by Blackout
If by "us" you mean the United States, then you have to consider that the United States was a developing power (think India/China today) during that
time and was not militarily advanced nor innovative (tanks were developed in Britain, MG's/assault rifles developed in Germany, etc.; but nothing new
in military hardware was coming out of America). Europe fell apart after WW2; which paved the path for American/Soviet dominance.
The US (while not nearly the superpower it is today) still had some of the worlds best technology in that era.
Just a few of the items that were better than the rest of the world's equipment:
Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR), Browning .30 and .50 machine guns, B-29 Bomber (prototypes were available in around 1940), radar (about as good as the
UK's - but certainly more advanced than Germany).
However, the US was still an isolationist state that was not willing to accept that it could no longer stay out of the world's affairs due to the
Atlantic and Pacific cushion - therefore there was not a concerted effort to build up these weapons and develop new ones. Until 1941.
Alright, I'll give you that. Perhaps a better comparison for the US then would be France/Germany today. I also don't like to debate over better guns
(such as StG 44 assault rifle vs. BAR) as they hardly made the difference on the ground versus other technology.
As for military technology, America was in reality more behind than most countries and not as close as you make it out to believe. On the ground,
America had never depended on technology. They depended on manpower alone - something British field marshals such as Montgomery could not depend on.
For instance, the M4 Shermans were inferior to German tanks in nearly every respect. It was typical to see 5-10 Shermans battle a single Panzer IV
tank because the M4 Shermans just weren't able to penetrate the Panzer armor by itself - even such an old model as the Panzer IV (it was even more
chaotic when Germany began rolling out heavier tanks such as Panther and Tiger/King Tiger). Even French tanks were better than the tanks coming from
American factories (before they collapsed under German blitzkrieg, of coruse).
Also, as many have already mentioned in this thread, Nazi air technology was clearly superior to anyone's at the time aside from its lagging on radar
tech. I'm not going to doubt that P-51 Mustangs and Spritfires were great planes. They were impressive planes, but they weren't innovating to the
extent German scientists were. Mustangs and Spitfires were just...fighters. Germany was experimenting with/developed viable helicopters, jet aircraft,
manned rocket planes, unmanned aircraft/weapons (V weapons, Goliath remote bombs, etc.), advanced rocketry and missiles, modern siege weapons
(Sturmtiger), anti-landmine pasting (on King Tigers and various other tanks), infrared sniper scopes, and so forth.
At sea, America/Japan was all over carriers. Germany decided not to deal with carriers but rather built large battleship and sub fleets - which they
were very advanced in (particularly in the sub industry).
If America was important enough on the world stage in 1939, Hitler would have struck. The reality was that America wasn't that far and didn't
concern Hitler much. It wasn't until 1945 that Hitler became angered with America and wanted to bombard New York with rockets - which never arrived
Many of the Nazi inventions were never produced in sufficient numbers or just plain never saw service. Lack of resources and time can be fatal.
Although, Rommel was secretly negotiating peace with the Allied powers due to the lack of air superiority as many higher ranking authorities were at
the time; however, Rommel's staff car was strafed by a Royal Canadian Air Force pilot and he was later forced to suicide by Hitler for having
allegedly plotted against him (which he didn't).
Anyhow, America never fully caught up with Nazi 1945 tech for at least 10 years (could possibly be more) because Panzer VI Tiger II (King Tiger) was
still the most powerful tank 10 years after the war. Of course, the catch up time would've been doubled or even tripled if America didn't capture
Nazi scientists (that's right, it wasn't great American innovation that got us into space) - many of which are believed to still be working at Area