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Trump says they'll "destroy the career" of Texas Senator who opposes Civil Asset Forfeiture.

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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
The law seems to be a very big issue when even the judicial systems is a failure.

Ahh yes, Judicial system. total failure, big loser. repeal it and replace it with something wonderful. its going to be great.




posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

I agree with you and I'm sure if Trump attempted to get anything moving on civil asset forfeiture not only will the left be protesting as usual but even many of his base. I hope and I believe he would immediately change his mind on it.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: odzeandennz

He triggers the triggerables again !!





Hes the best at it.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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Trump's pick for Attorney General, Senator Jeff Sessions


At a 2015 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on forfeiture abuses, one senator said “taking and seizing and forfeiting, through a government judicial process, illegal gains from criminal enterprises is not wrong,” and neither is law enforcement enriching itself from this.


The very bad reason Jeff Sessions is ‘very unhappy’

Read the full article to see how Trump's joke is no joke.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: mkultra11
a reply to: gladtobehere

I watched the video. It was a joke. Everyone laughed.

Funny joke
I remember he once said a zinger on how he was gonna run for POTUS.



He wasn't joking about running, but all those people against him thought it was a joke. He got the last laugh on that one, huh.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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So, what was the Senator's name?

I hate civil asset forfeiture, and I believe that it needs to really be reworked.

On the other hand, I also know that there are State senators in Texas that should be destroyed.

I would have to know who it is to decide wether or not I agree with the destruction of his career.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere

I find this disturbing. I am going out on a limb and guess he doesn't realize how much fraud is involved and how it hurts the innocent. Requiring conviction prior to forfeiture is the only constitutional answer.

I was really pleased when this came up in Texas. Doubt it would have been noticed if not a problem. The guy only mentioned Mexico but it is used well beyond illegals. And Mexico would not like their peoples assets taken me thinks.

EDIT: The change in law is for state asset forfeiture. Trump can do nothing about that.
edit on 7-2-2017 by liveandlearn because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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I wonder which percentage of forfeiture are legit and which ones get abused. It happens daily, yet there are only a few incidents of an innocent person getting shafted, right?



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 10:56 PM
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Op answer me this scenario: Mexican drug Cartels come into Texas with weapons , money , cars and valuables and get caught. Am i to assume that this asset forfeiture is unlawful? If it is man you seriously need to get out of your cozy chair and head down to the border. Its a dam mess down there?



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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a big, yuge thumbs down for Trump.
This is an atrocity against liberty.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I'm with you on that. I'm really not liking this one.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 11:15 PM
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They use this same bs all over Texas and TN to randomly stop people , they have ceased hundreds of thousands from innocent people and they never get it back, half of them never even get to see a courtroom to prove their innocence and get theeir money back...

Lawsuits abound against them to get their funds back

It's not illegal to pull all your cash out of the bank, but if for some reason you get caught w it, its not yours anymore

Google it , its been happening for years to innocent people.....

Any trump supporter that is for this is NOT a conservative and opposes the rule of law



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 12:15 AM
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Really not surprised I'm not seeing more of this..... this sets a dangerous president, the president threatened to destroy someone politically, on air.....

Shouldn't there be outrage ?



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 12:35 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask


Shouldn't there be outrage ?


Not from the trump cultists it seems.


There are some names on this thread who a year ago I swear where anti civil forfeiture, but have suddenly changed tune because there orange god has said otherwise.

Hell one particular member on this thread was obsessed (rightly so) about upholding the constitution under obama yet has posted that its ok for Trump to play lose with it because obama did........

Its like they let Trump do there thinking for them........



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: neo96


I don't have a problem with asset seizure.


Until it's used against you.

No citizen should support this. It subverts due process. It's been used against all sorts of innocent people, from grannies to college kids.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:58 AM
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originally posted by: allprowolfy
Op answer me this scenario: Mexican drug Cartels come into Texas with weapons , money , cars and valuables and get caught. Am i to assume that this asset forfeiture is unlawful? If it is man you seriously need to get out of your cozy chair and head down to the border. Its a dam mess down there?


And plenty of people drive to Vegas with the same things. Why should some corrupt, backwater sheriff get to keep it simply because they stopped them on a traffic violation?



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 05:11 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: SaturnFX

Like the last guy trolled his supporters and didn't uphold the constitution always crying about fair share this fair share that and gunz is bad?


Ive gotta strongly disagree with you. Current civil asset forfeiture laws are not only unamericam, but truly unconstitutional. The only reason they havent been ruled as such is due to rampant corruption of the judicial system.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 06:09 AM
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a reply to: mkultra11
Why does he firstly mutter "can you believe that", before his as you put it "joke"




www.thedailysheeple.com...



Sheriff: “A state senator in Texas was talking about introducing legislation to require conviction before we can receive that forfeiture money.”

Trump: “Can you believe that?”
Can we believe what, Mr. Trump? That some – actually, many – people are against law enforcement officials stealing assets from people who are merely suspected of committing a crime but have not been charged or convicted of any wrongdoing?

If you still don’t fully understand why civil asset forfeiture presents a huge threat to personal property and due process rights, check out the Institute for Justice’s in-depth report on the racket.
ij.org...


During today’s listening session, Trump had this to say about curbing the practice:
www.reuters.com...

“I’d like to look into that. There’s no reason for that.”


edit on 8-2-2017 by acrux because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

John Oliver did a segment about it back in 2014. I'd recommend that everyone watch it so they can see just how horrible it is. It basically allows law enforcement and municipalities to be thieves, with the federal govt taking a cut.
I still can't understand how it doesn't violate the 4th Amendment.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: kosmicjack

originally posted by: neo96


I don't have a problem with asset seizure.


Until it's used against you.

No citizen should support this. It subverts due process. It's been used against all sorts of innocent people, from grannies to college kids.


Why some support it is less money taken from everyone else to pay for LEO.

Although it really doesn't matter.

Failure to pay property taxes and homes are seized.

Possessions are sold.

And that money still ends up at a government level.

Just not leo but another.


edit on 8-2-2017 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



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