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Trump uses restroom, MSM speculates on motive and possible outcomes

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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: reldra

McCarthy would be very happy. All going as planned.


McCarthy was, by and large, right.

However, you're not talking about what McCarthy actually said or did, you're talking about what the media claims he said or did.

Which seems... entirely appropriate for this thread.



He what??? What universe do you live in? He was not 'by and large' right. It was dark times for this country. There are people that notice the similarities and will not allow it again.




posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: reldra

they were lies they weren`t even close to being right, after all the elections and polls the media has done they should be better at it.
the polls were lies they were conducted dishonestly.
The media knew that they weren`t conducting honest polls but they didn`t care they only cared about getting the final results on the polls that they wanted.



They were close. Go back and look. Approval ratings for both candidates went up and down. it was true more people said they would vote Clinton. Many people later said they were hesitant to say they would vote Trump, even anonymously.

It was one of the strangest election cycles in history. They were not lies. The polls were conducted as they normally are. This was not a normal election cycle.

They care about accurate results, or they are out of a job the next time around, for anything. Even "Do people like Peter Pan or Jiff better?" For polls just handled by a media outlet, no one would ever believe them again. It certainly wasn't on purpose and now they have to figure out what went wrong.

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Most people DID vote for Hillary, by millions. The polls need to shift to focusing more on who will vote for whom and where. Normally they focus on likely voters, political party, age, sex, income level.
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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
He what??? What universe do you live in? He was not 'by and large' right. It was dark times for this country. There are people that notice the similarities and will not allow it again.


So which of his positions do you take issue with?



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: reldra

I did look and they weren`t close, even on election day they were off by a minimum of 3-5 points
those were just the polls from election day, the day everyone already knew who they were going to vote for.

The media was dishonest in the way they conducted the polls that`s why the polls were wrong and that makes the media liars.

like I said if people want to continue watching the MSM then they deserve to be lied to and they will be lied to.


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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: reldra
He what??? What universe do you live in? He was not 'by and large' right. It was dark times for this country. There are people that notice the similarities and will not allow it again.


So which of his positions do you take issue with?


Almost all.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: reldra

McCarthy would be very happy. All going as planned.


McCarthy was, by and large, right.

However, you're not talking about what McCarthy actually said or did, you're talking about what the media claims he said or did.

Which seems... entirely appropriate for this thread.



He what??? What universe do you live in? He was not 'by and large' right. It was dark times for this country. There are people that notice the similarities and will not allow it again.


A lot of information has been released starting in the 1990's about the subject, A lot came out of Soviet files, NSA was intercepting soviet to state department officials . Public school I doubt have updated this subject.

I'm sure you have spent lots of time on the subject though...



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: reldra

I did look and they weren`t close, even on election day they were off by a minimum of 3-5 points
those were just the polls from election day, the day everyone already knew who they were going to vote for.

The media was dishonest in the way they conducted the polls that`s why the polls were wrong and that makes the media liars.

like I said if people want to continue watching the MSM then they deserve to be lied to and they will be lied to.



Most polls go on up to + OR - 3 about. They were close.

Now, Trump has changed his opinion. Any poll he doesn't like is fake and any he likes is real.
Do you agree with his opinion on this? For the ones he believes, because they show him in a good light, does he deserve to be lied to? That is following your line of thinking.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: jellyrev

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: reldra

McCarthy would be very happy. All going as planned.


McCarthy was, by and large, right.

However, you're not talking about what McCarthy actually said or did, you're talking about what the media claims he said or did.

Which seems... entirely appropriate for this thread.



He what??? What universe do you live in? He was not 'by and large' right. It was dark times for this country. There are people that notice the similarities and will not allow it again.


A lot of information has been released starting in the 1990's about the subject, A lot came out of Soviet files, NSA was intercepting soviet to state department officials . Public school I doubt have updated this subject.

I'm sure you have spent lots of time on the subject though...


Yes I have. And what is your mention of public school?



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Brian4real

Obama was covered pretty extensively. The right wing sites and blogs made up the most unimaginable things. Trump only recently agreed Obama was born in the US.

Possibly it is because Trump is doing really crazy things at a very fast pace?

The country is divided. He lost the popular vote. He has brought some real looney toons into his inner circle. He put Bannon on the Security Council and some are not even sure he knew he did it.

The people he chooses, for the most part, hate the agencies they are to lead. Instead of draining the swamp, he created one 10 stories high.

OF COURSEhe is not left alone for every move, but I have not yet seen anyone cover his using the restroom. I hope to not see that.



But that's all conjecture and speculation reldra..

Based on your fears and the narrative the media push to confirm your bias.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd
a reply to: Brian4real

Oh, you've seen that praise and criticism before (just check back and look at the posts on Obama.) Look at the run-up to this... the election phase. It happened with Clinton... but you just might not have minded it as much.


Yes. We here in ATS (collectively) have put every POTUS nuts through the ringer from the get. But when it cmes to the MSM they tend to bow and scrape to every POTUS (pre-Trump). When the RULING ESTABLISHMENT'S media propaganda machine (ABC NBC CNN CBS NYT LAT WaPo) all come out guns blazing against a person you know whose side they're on (NOT yours or mine).



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Brian4real

Obama was covered pretty extensively. The right wing sites and blogs made up the most unimaginable things. Trump only recently agreed Obama was born in the US.

Possibly it is because Trump is doing really crazy things at a very fast pace?

The country is divided. He lost the popular vote. He has brought some real looney toons into his inner circle. He put Bannon on the Security Council and some are not even sure he knew he did it.

The people he chooses, for the most part, hate the agencies they are to lead. Instead of draining the swamp, he created one 10 stories high.

OF COURSEhe is not left alone for every move, but I have not yet seen anyone cover his using the restroom. I hope to not see that.



But that's all conjecture and speculation reldra..

Based on your fears and the narrative the media push to confirm your bias.


No, it's all true. The '10 ft high swamp' is the only thing that isn't literal.

You somehow think that the media pushes me in some way? If you fancy yourself a psychic, you should not give up your day job.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Byrd
a reply to: Brian4real

Oh, you've seen that praise and criticism before (just check back and look at the posts on Obama.) Look at the run-up to this... the election phase. It happened with Clinton... but you just might not have minded it as much.


Yes. We here in ATS (collectively) have put every POTUS nuts through the ringer from the get. But when it cmes to the MSM they tend to bow and scrape to every POTUS (pre-Trump). When the RULING ESTABLISHMENT'S media propaganda machine (ABC NBC CNN CBS NYT LAT WaPo) all come out guns blazing against a person you know whose side they're on (NOT yours or mine).


The media has never done this? Never such bias ( for any side)? In one election a newspaper printed that one candidate had a venereal disease. In response, the newspaper that supported his opponent, at the request of that opponent, printed that the venereal disease accuser was deceased.

Founding Father's Dirty Campaigns
In another divisive election cycle, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were even worse.


TexThings got ugly fast. Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father.As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward"



To Jefferson's credit, James Callendar (his Kellyanne) proved incredibly effective, convincing many Americans that Adams desperately wanted to attack France. Although the claim was completely untrue, voters bought it, and Jefferson stole the election.
Sort of reminds me that people thought Hillary would start a war with Russia or WWIII.
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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:28 PM
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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Brian4real

Obama was covered pretty extensively. The right wing sites and blogs made up the most unimaginable things. Trump only recently agreed Obama was born in the US.

Possibly it is because Trump is doing really crazy things at a very fast pace?

The country is divided. He lost the popular vote. He has brought some real looney toons into his inner circle. He put Bannon on the Security Council and some are not even sure he knew he did it.

The people he chooses, for the most part, hate the agencies they are to lead. Instead of draining the swamp, he created one 10 stories high.

OF COURSEhe is not left alone for every move, but I have not yet seen anyone cover his using the restroom. I hope to not see that.



But that's all conjecture and speculation reldra..

Based on your fears and the narrative the media push to confirm your bias.


No, it's all true. The '10 ft high swamp' is the only thing that isn't literal.

You somehow think that the media pushes me in some way? If you fancy yourself a psychic, you should not give up your day job.


Only it doesn't take a psychic to realize that you've been brainwashed by the media.. I'm not trying to be mean or condescending, just pointing things out.. maybe if you hear it enough times you might start to believe it. I'm only here to help.


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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
I heard speculation from a caller to the radio this morning that it seems as if, with the Democrats in a real shambles, the press has appointed itself the opposition party in the country, and this is the result.


when the entire government is controlled by republicans, what do you think the MSM should report on politically?....democrats?.....right....got it

from now on, anything and everything bad that happens in the federal government is entirely the fault of republicans....there will be no excuses and no democrats to blame



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: ketsuko
I heard speculation from a caller to the radio this morning that it seems as if, with the Democrats in a real shambles, the press has appointed itself the opposition party in the country, and this is the result.


when the entire government is controlled by republicans, what do you think the MSM should report on politically?....democrats?.....right....got it

from now on, anything and everything bad that happens in the federal government is entirely the fault of republicans....there will be no excuses and no democrats to blame


But isn't that already happening?



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:32 PM
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"And, let's face it, Trump has made a lot of moves that an experienced politician would not have made. A deft politician would not have made enemies out of the press or started Twitter wars with celebrities. A truly savvy politician would not produce orders without taking advice from their councils. An experienced politician would not send troops off on missions without a lot of meetings with the intelligence agencies (instead of "one... whenever') and without reading the daily memos (which Trump doesn't), etc.

Businessmen can ignore the press and the workers and so forth and go after the money and the stockholders will cheer and the board of directors will, too. But governments are NOT businesses and anyone who tries to run a government like a business is going to get smacked right and left for not following the laws of the land and the procedures set up as "best practices" ... in our case for well over 250 years."





One of the reasons President Trump was hired is because he was NOT a politician. Granted he does not have the experience the seasoned politicians have of lying to the American people or showing partisan politics. I do not believe he is a puppet for the George Soros' of the world. He is however, not as experienced at political diplomacy. I do not think that is what was the publics concern when he was elected. After years of this country being destroyed by socialist democrats,communist and marxist, the people woke up and hired someone who seemed sincere about putting America and the people first. As for "following the laws of the land" when was the last time you saw ANY politician truly following the laws of the land.

As for the MSM, it is obvious their smear campaign is more extensive than any before. They have never been on the side of "true and honest" reporting but at least they were not so obvious. Now, MSM journelist are bought, controlled by and loyal to their zionist bosses only. The Elite, who had such a tight grip not only on the MSM but congress also, has lost it. The amount of crap they are coming out with and the blatant lies they report as fact is appalling. I can understand why President Trump is in conflict with them. Actually with social media and alternate news why not just get rid of them altogether. Put alternate news people in their seats.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Brian4real

Obama was covered pretty extensively. The right wing sites and blogs made up the most unimaginable things. Trump only recently agreed Obama was born in the US.

Possibly it is because Trump is doing really crazy things at a very fast pace?

The country is divided. He lost the popular vote. He has brought some real looney toons into his inner circle. He put Bannon on the Security Council and some are not even sure he knew he did it.

The people he chooses, for the most part, hate the agencies they are to lead. Instead of draining the swamp, he created one 10 stories high.

OF COURSEhe is not left alone for every move, but I have not yet seen anyone cover his using the restroom. I hope to not see that.



But that's all conjecture and speculation reldra..

Based on your fears and the narrative the media push to confirm your bias.


No, it's all true. The '10 ft high swamp' is the only thing that isn't literal.

You somehow think that the media pushes me in some way? If you fancy yourself a psychic, you should not give up your day job.


Only it doesn't take a psychic to realize that you've been brainwashed by the media.. I'm not trying to be mean or condescending, just pointing things out.. maybe if you hear it enough times you might start to believe it. I'm only here to help.



No, you are here to be condescending and try to sound clever. You fail at the latter.

And, who are you?
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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: drifter1109

But Trump lies daily and is both partisan and gives cabinet jobs to his friends. he lies often several times in a day. Add Conway and Spicer and it goes beyond the pale.

He wasn't 'hired'. He was elected by people he fooled. But, he CAN be fired.


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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Brian4real

Obama was covered pretty extensively. The right wing sites and blogs made up the most unimaginable things. Trump only recently agreed Obama was born in the US.

Possibly it is because Trump is doing really crazy things at a very fast pace?

The country is divided. He lost the popular vote. He has brought some real looney toons into his inner circle. He put Bannon on the Security Council and some are not even sure he knew he did it.

The people he chooses, for the most part, hate the agencies they are to lead. Instead of draining the swamp, he created one 10 stories high.

OF COURSEhe is not left alone for every move, but I have not yet seen anyone cover his using the restroom. I hope to not see that.



But that's all conjecture and speculation reldra..

Based on your fears and the narrative the media push to confirm your bias.


No, it's all true. The '10 ft high swamp' is the only thing that isn't literal.

You somehow think that the media pushes me in some way? If you fancy yourself a psychic, you should not give up your day job.


Only it doesn't take a psychic to realize that you've been brainwashed by the media.. I'm not trying to be mean or condescending, just pointing things out.. maybe if you hear it enough times you might start to believe it. I'm only here to help.



No, you are here to be condescending and try to sound clever. You fail at the latter.

And, who are you?


So now you're the mind reader and know my intentions? The irony of Trump critics attacking him for having thin skin. I'm sorry if you don't agree with my approach, but my intentions are definitely not to be condensending or "sound clever"

Who am I? Nobody of great importance but my goal is to be a voice of truth and my only hope is that it resonates.. because the truth will always resonate.. even if I get on your bad side, which im clearly already on..




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