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The Alt-Right, Trump and ATS

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posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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I miss military installation/alien experimental facility threads.
Anybody got more info on Dulce?

As for the politics, I feel both sides lost, big time.


HIllary is Satan
Trump is on a learning experience, he might fail
We learned exactly who the distributors of fake news are
And we're all left to wonder, is this really the best that America could do? REALLY?

This is a result of a broken system of string pulling, or the strings are tighter than ever. Things are strange right now.




posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

“The Alt-right hold what are regarded as typically far-right views such as racial and religious segregation strong avocation of second amendment rights, strong limitation of government power and with a strong conspiracy twist. This is an ideology that feels the left has taken over with political correctness and social equality and welfare. Right now the big topic within the alt-right is the belief, or the fear, that Islam is going to take over America.”


I realize you have an agenda with this post and after some thought I would like to respond to your OP. I spent many years as a clueless moderate Republican with a libertarian bent. I voted for Trump, it wasn’t so much a vote for Trump as a vote against Hillary. I now realize that it was a vote against the Progressive Socialist construct that our nation has become. I no longer believe the MSM because of WikiLeaks just as I no longer tolerate irrational leftist ideology after understanding the alt-left agenda.....the destruction of an American identity.

Am I alt-right because I feel that anyone who lives in this country should believe in our Constitution and laws and must immigrate legally and assimilate before expecting Constitutional protection of their rights? The onus is not on me, I am an American, I act like an American and I will not apologize for myself or Trump, sometimes we get what we deserve. The vast majority of American Conservatives that live in fly-over country with views you categorize as alt-right won’t be losing any sleep over the label. The alt-left seems to be a virulent anti-American cancer affecting only Blue states on the coast, I am confident that the Trump administration will find a cure.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


This same Ideology has very strong links to groups like BAIR, Solders of Odin or the EDL and other far-right white supremacist groups.


This right here is the single reason the alt-right exists.

You guys will never see it. Calling everyone who disagrees with you racists, nazis, misogynistic, xenophobes, is not how you have a debate and convert people to your philosophy. You're just pushing people away.

The Alt-Right is not just one right-wing philosophy, the Alt-Right is an amalgamation of multiple right-wing philosophies: libertarians, Minarchists, Anarcho-Capitalists, monarchists, fascists, National Socialists, US conservatives/republicans, etc.

The Alt-Right was a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality of various right-wing philosophies, who put aside their differences to fight a common enemy: Tumblr sjw's.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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17 pages later, over 100 flags, and dozens upon dozens of stars for the OP and other comments by left-leaning ATS members...


But we'll still hear all about how ATS is "just another alt-right echo chamber!" every chance they get lol.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: reldra


It is true that a lot of ATS has become an echo chamber for alt right ideals.


People misuse the term "echo chamber" constantly.

AboveTopSecret is not an echo chamber for any one political ideology.

A website that is an echo chamber bans all discussion that aims to criticize the prevailing political thought of said website.

We can conclude that, because ATS has such a variety of people with differing political affiliations, and because people are not banned for having the "wrong" political ideals, and because we openly debate politics constantly--that AboveTopSecret is not an echo chamber.

An echo chamber is not just a website where people who disagree with you are allowed to post.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu
"There are two 'Alt-Rights'.

One is more accurately described as the New Right. These people like to wear MAGA hats, create memes & have fun. They include whites, blacks, Asians, latinos, gays and everyone else. These are the people who helped Trump win the election.

The other faction likes to fester in dark corners of sub-reddits and obsess about Jews, racial superiority and Adolf Hitler. This is a tiny fringe minority. They had no impact on the election.

Guess which faction the media is giving all the attention to?" - Paul Joseph Watson

If that's really really true then the good guys need to separate themselves from the bad guys and have a different name because I and many others can't tell the difference.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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What I see more than anything is that Republicans are really amped and energized to give bullsh#t arguments and to chew bullsh#t in general. Kellyanne Conway is a prime example. Classic bullsh#tter. That's their only path. Unless we all go racist and heartless and stupid, bullsh#t is their only option.

I think a lot of people on the left are just tired of that, ready to move on, and leave all this bullsh#t behind.

By the way, this post is more for people on the left, because I know the right is churning up their bullsh#t machine as we speak for a bullsh#t response.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

The left is being played by the Globalists to try and provoke a response from the right. You need to ask yourself why a guy like Soros is so intent on funding every leftist agenda. The social justice cult has no idea what they are being led into. The globalists are going to throw them to the wolves, and the alt-right and everyday conservatives are the wolves.

The only issue that will remain will be the Right keeping itself in check so that it doesn't compromise it's Constitutional beliefs and give Soros what he wants......reason to denounce the right as fascists, which they certainly are not.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

The globalists globalists Soros agenda to fund the leftists globalist cult agenda. Globalist agenda. -- Best when said by Alex Jones.

Just stop with the Soros globalist agenda bullsh#t. Stop with the being afraid of the world. Just talk normal.
edit on 8-2-2017 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

The globalists globalists Soros agenda to fund the leftists globalist cult agenda. Globalist agenda. -- Best when said by Alex Jones.

Just stop with the Soros globalist agenda bullsh#t. Stop with the being afraid of the world. Just talk normal.


That was normal communication, I sense you understood it was a warning.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

The globalists globalists Soros agenda to fund the leftists globalist cult agenda. Globalist agenda. -- Best when said by Alex Jones.

Just stop with the Soros globalist agenda bullsh#t. Stop with the being afraid of the world. Just talk normal.


That was normal communication, I sense you understood it was a warning.


It's rabbithole paranoia and fear of an ever-changing world.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: WilliamtheResolute

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

The globalists globalists Soros agenda to fund the leftists globalist cult agenda. Globalist agenda. -- Best when said by Alex Jones.

Just stop with the Soros globalist agenda bullsh#t. Stop with the being afraid of the world. Just talk normal.


That was normal communication, I sense you understood it was a warning.


It's rabbithole paranoia and fear of an ever-changing world.


Leftists used to form up in SJW mobs to shame political opponents into silence, now they do it to “punch Nazis.” The Left loves cultural Marxist ideology and have started adopting Alinsky’s “ends justifies the means” mentality, no longer worrying about right, rational, logical or factual outcomes….only winning.

The warning is that there are people on the Right who disagree just as violently and far outnumber a few thousand unhappy kids playing anarchist on the Left. Don’t be part of the problem and continue the divisive rhetoric…….the only rabbithole in this conversation is the metaphorical one the left is entering.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

The right suffers from a failure to adapt.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

The right suffers from a failure to adapt.




YOU win the prize for most ironic statement on the day!



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

The right suffers from a failure to adapt.



Lol, how should we adapt, by destroying property when we don't want to allow someone their right to free speech?


Pathetic.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: WilliamtheResolute

The right suffers from a failure to adapt.



Lol, how should we adapt, by destroying property when we don't want to allow someone their right to free speech?



Pathetic.


We all must adapt to their version of freedom or else.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

The right suffers from a failure to adapt.



Totally backasswards.

"The Right" changes things and "The Left" goes berzerk.




posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Uhhh pretty sure the right wants to go back to 50s white America because they can't adapt to a global world of color and mixed cultures.



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: xuenchen

Uhhh pretty sure the right wants to go back to 50s white America because they can't adapt to a global world of color and mixed cultures.



But isn't it the left who is all for killing black babies through planned parenthood?



posted on Feb, 8 2017 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: xuenchen

Uhhh pretty sure the right wants to go back to 50s white America because they can't adapt to a global world of color and mixed cultures.


Your surety could be misguided by the MSM.




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