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The Ongoing Saga of ACA-ObamaCare Repeal and Replace.

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posted on Mar, 2 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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Thursday, March 2, 2017

Wow.. what a soap opera! Today, the GOP is physically HIDING the recently modified Obamacare Repeal/Replace bill from the Conservative wing of the Republican party.

Rand Paul says that it probably includes Subsidies/Tax-Credits to help people pay their premiums. Senator Paul vows that he and his conservative colleagues will NOT vote "YES" for a bill that includes government help for paying premiums. He calls it "ObamaCare Lite".

Source: thehill.com...




posted on Mar, 7 2017 @ 09:07 PM
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March 7, 2017

The AMERICAN HEALTHCARE ACT is the replacement for the failing Affordable Care Act.

SUMMARY: www.npr.org...

This initial, hastily put-together draft contains LOTS OF HOLES...

One provision that is RIPE for abuse, is that people can buy a plan at any time of the year, and have their major surgery, or cancer treatments paid for, because all existing/pre-existing conditions must be covered by the insurance.

They will have to pay a 30% penalty, because they didn't have health insurance before getting sick. But that is SMALL POTATOS compared to the unlimited dollars they'll then have access to, to cover their medical bills going forward.

-cwm


edit on 3/7/2017 by carewemust because: wording adjustment



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:34 AM
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President Trump is going "All In" to get the American Healthcare Act (ObamaCare Repeal-Replace) bill moving to completion, so he can sign it. Here's Why...

""A legislative failure would not only enrage conservatives, it would cast doubt on the President's ability to enact his own ambitious agenda.

It appears Trump recognizes the risks.

"There's going to be no waiting, no more excuses by anybody, we're going to get it done," Trump told deputy Republican House whips at the White House during a brief appearance before reporters.

"I'm proud to support the replacement plan released by the House of Representatives. We're going to have something much more understood and more popular than people can even imagine," Trump said.

Privately, the President was even more explicit, warning the House GOP vote counters of the disastrous political consequences if they fail to corral sufficient votes.

One source told CNN that Trump warned his guests that not passing a repeal bill could result in a "blood bath" for the party in mid-term elections in 2018.""

Source: www.cnn.com...



posted on Mar, 8 2017 @ 01:41 PM
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Democrat leaders need to shut up and embrace this ObamaCare replacement. It's a gold-mine for their constituents!

No need to carry insurance.

Can enroll at any time.

Can get that $175,000 major surgery right after enrolling.

Can cancel after you've recuperated.

Talk about a "loophole"! Of course, no insurance company in it's right mind would participate in such a program, but that's what the American Healthcare Act is promising.



posted on Mar, 9 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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WHO would get the blame if ObamaCare repeal-replace was shelved, while we wait for ObamaCare to finish it's spiral to doom?

There so much conflict within Congress, that perhaps that's exactly what they should do now. Let ObamaCare take its last breath, then come up with national high-risk coverage for those who are sick. Let everyone else enjoy the freedom of buying what they want in the open market.



posted on Mar, 9 2017 @ 09:58 PM
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March 9, 2017

Senator Rand Paul just said that the American Healthcare Act is DEAD ON ARRIVAL, the moment it gets to the U.S. Senate.
Ref: www.foxnews.com...

He wants a full repeal...like Republicans campaigned on, and took nationwide majorities, by promising.

Now that most Americans understand how many of their really sick/uninsurable fellow citizens RELY ON OBAMACARE, I don't think even the Republican voters who wanted full ObamaCare Repeal, are still for it. Just Rand Paul and some of the more callous members, who are giving "conservatism" a bad name.



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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Friday, March 10, 2017

President Trump said today that he is pleased with he pace at which the Affordable Health Care Act (AHCA) is moving through Congress... adding that Obamacare was "Designed to Explode" this year... presumably so Hillary could roll out Government Run healthcare.

Source: www.politico.com...



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 06:20 PM
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Can get that $175,000 major surgery right after enrolling.


Perhaps you could center your questions on why any major surgery should cost $175,000.00.

Think about it for a minute!

That is the cost of a house in some areas.

The problem with the US health care is these stupid costs for operations, tests and pills.

Control those costs and the insurance companies huge profits and you may get there.

P



posted on Mar, 10 2017 @ 10:22 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: carewemust




Can get that $175,000 major surgery right after enrolling.


Perhaps you could center your questions on why any major surgery should cost $175,000.00.

Think about it for a minute!

That is the cost of a house in some areas.

The problem with the US health care is these stupid costs for operations, tests and pills.

Control those costs and the insurance companies huge profits and you may get there.

P



You are exactly right, pheonix358! The cost of medical care in America is the #1 driver of insurance premiums.

Blue Cross here in Illinois followed ObamaCare rules, and tried to "bend the cost cure" by paying physicians/hospitals less. What happened? 40% of Doctors and 1 out of 3 hospitals stopped accepting Blue Cross "ObamaCare" patients in 2016. That statistic is probably worse now.

But it didn't hurt these medical providers, because only 3.2% of Americans own ACA-Obamacare health insurance plans.
PIE CHART: acasignups.net...

Physicians who accept MEDICAID patients are even scarcer.

If the Federal Government built/funded a high-risk pool, using a nationwide PPO network (like Multiplan.com), lower income and sicker Americans could enroll, and have access to 96% of medical physicians/hospitals from coast-to-coast.

OUR Federal Government can quickly implement, and migrate all of the Medicaid beneficiaries to that pool. The states should not be administering healthcare. There's too much variation from state to state, and almost no agreements between the states.



posted on Mar, 13 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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Monday, March 13, 2017

This is a somewhat cryptic message put out by President Trump this morning... Sounds like he PREFERS to let the ObamaCare Train Wreck finish on its own.



""Republicans “are putting themselves in a very bad position” by repealing Obamacare, President Donald Trump said Monday.

“The Republicans, frankly, are putting themselves in a very bad position — I tell this to Tom Price all the time — by repealing Obamacare,” the president said Monday morning during a listening session on health care with so-called “victims” of Obamacare. “Because people aren’t gonna see the truly devastating effects of Obamacare.

They’re not gonna see the devastation. In ’17 and ’18 and ’19, it’ll be gone by then. Whether we do it or not, it’ll be imploded off the map.”"

Source: www.politico.com...



posted on Mar, 13 2017 @ 11:27 AM
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What a unifying leader. He's essentially telling the GOP to let the people suffer because it makes the Democrats look bad.



posted on Mar, 13 2017 @ 02:33 PM
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I'm starting to see it will give carte blanche for pharmaceutical companies to charge whatever they want for Rx drugs.

And the rich get richer. Don't worry OP, maybe you'll get a buck or two from their 'trickle down".



posted on Mar, 13 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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"Their plan for health care is to take coverage away from tens of millions, undermine protections for people with pre-existing conditions, raise premiums and costs for working families, defund Planned Parenthood and gut Medicaid — while giving hundreds of billions in tax breaks to the wealthy and big insurance and pharmaceutical companies," Dach said.

"After the public made their opposition to repeal clear at town hall meetings, Republicans went into hiding and literally wrote this plan in a secret, locked basement room. The fact that they want to rush it through — without debate, hearings or letting the public know what it means for patients and families — tells you all you need to know about how bad it really is for our country."


This will also end Medicaid as we know it. The cost will be shifted to governors to find the money. How many states can afford this? Additionally, there is a group now focusing on cutting Medicare funding, by as yet, an undisclosed amount. (After Trump said he wouldn't touch it, or Medicaid.) Meh.

www.cnbc.com...



posted on Mar, 13 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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The Republicans, frankly, are putting themselves in a very bad position — I tell this to Tom Price all the time — by repealing Obamacare,” the president said Monday morning


O.M.G.

Who's idea was it? He hasn't been able to shut up about repealing it since he announced his candidacy, and now he's telling Price "the republicans are putting themselves in a very bad position - by repealing it?

You don't know whether to laugh or cry at this hypocrisy and stupidity. Or call it what it is. Absolutely clueless and incompetent to be POTUS.



posted on Mar, 13 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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Republicans need to start gettingh a F-ing clue and start putting the healthcare needs of people before the bullsh#t bottom lines of insurance companies. Stop with the repeal and replace mantra for bullsh#t political reasons and basically just stop with the douche tactics. Just be f-ing real and give a damn about people.

I don't think they have it in them...
edit on 13-3-2017 by spiritualzombie because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 15 2017 @ 08:09 PM
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Watching the HHS Secretary (Tom Price) in a live CNN town hall right now. First question was, "Why do you want to take away my free healthcare!?! My Medicaid Expansion!!!"



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 04:47 AM
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If Trump has any sense he will not sign this bill if it passes.
His support for it is misguided. He needs to stop listening to Paul Ryan.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 07:23 AM
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I'll say it again... what is ultimately going to happen is that Trump et al will simply jigger a few things around in the ACA in order to make what will amount to minor changes and then rebrand it as their own. They've had 8+yrs to come up with a better plan since they were vehemently opposed to the ACA from the start yet they have nothing to offer after all this time? They just throw some crap together in a couple months to make it look like they're doing something. They could care less. They just want a tax-cut for the rich and more spending in industries owned by their buddies. Business as usual.



posted on Mar, 23 2017 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: jtma508
I'll say it again... what is ultimately going to happen is that Trump et al will simply jigger a few things around in the ACA in order to make what will amount to minor changes and then rebrand it as their own. They've had 8+yrs to come up with a better plan since they were vehemently opposed to the ACA from the start yet they have nothing to offer after all this time?

I spent some time with a visiting couple from Virginia on the weekend. Politics was avoided but a few hints led me to believe that they were of the Republican persuasion. They had some questions about Canada, especially the health care system. They were astonished to hear how it plays out for us...as I was astonished by some of the questions - "Do you get to choose your own doctor?" Well...some have practices that are full so they are not accepting new patients...but of course we can!

I understand that some Americans are against Universal Health Care because it is not in the Constitution. I can't argue with that...but anything else, there are models all over the world to choose from and there is enough money currently in your system to hybridise your own perfect plan.

But that would make insurance companies sad, and that's why you can't all have nice things.



posted on Mar, 30 2017 @ 11:06 PM
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March 30, 2017

Well..the Administration had better up the urgency for getting an ObamaCare replacement bill that everyone can agree on.

Anthem is the largest health insurance company in the country, when it comes to sales of ObamaCare plans. Today, they said that it's likely the company will stop offering Individual ObamaCare insurance plans, in most parts of the country, at the end of this (2017) year.

Story: www.cnbc.com...



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