a reply to: FlukeSkywalker
Science is rules...for the game. Doesn't mean the rules aren't ever changing/malleable.
What "games". Why do you assume that you are "in a game"?
If you could 'step' outside yourself, and actually respect the facts of Human scientific investigation into the origin and evolution of matter from
the big bang until now, you would not see our existence in this world as any sort of arbitrary game.
If you can just accept - as I and most people who subscribe to science implicitly accept - that we are social animals
, then you will
understand that what we are is history in motion.
Matter, meaning, mutually entangled into one anothers structure.
The real issue is existence: do you appreciate it? Do you think its worth keeping around?
I believe there is a group of beings who are playing a game and at the center of the game is a single human life. Call this life "the ball" if you
will. There IS dualism involved because there HAS to be when competing...when playing a game where only one side can "win".
Ok. That is your religious faith. A strange faith. A faith no different from scientology or jehovah's witnesses or worshippers or Haruman the monkey
God. It's an idiosyncratic delusion - a harsh word, yes, but delusion because it forms its understanding of life, phenomena and its self-in-the-world
with personal narratives i.e. "good vs. evil", a "group of beings" controlling things: from my perspective, you seem to be projecting meaning from an
underground world of feeling relations with other human beings. Since we are all Humans - all physical beings with brains and blood flowing through
our veins - we are all formed in the same way. Imagine asteroids flowing through space: in a sort of "topological" mathematical space, humans undergo
different experiences of the environment.
These different experiences result in different expectations.
Desired or dreaded expectations
form the backbone of motivation-formation.
The world you have come to inherit from your fore-fathers, if it at all recommended or encouraged immoral or unethical behavior towards other Humans,
has seriously put you in a jumble.
If you have a faith - and need a faith - fine. If you want me to say "your faith is true, probably even in truer than mine", that would be sycophantic
of me - because that isn't the truth i.e. the reality of things.
In other words, my intelligent friend: if you can't provide empirical evidence for a belief you have, that qualifies as a religious faith (which, from
my perspective, is a function of you being an animal with affective needs that derive from your animality). You are absolutely convinced that I am
wrong - but you cannot communicate that meaningfully, because, of course, you believe yourself to be quite "special" - to have knowledge of a nature
that somehow comes from "without" the system, as opposed to - as it seems to my psychoanalytically inclined mind - to a fantasy of an intelligent
group or culture i.e. a fantasy mediated through the bodies of already existing beings?
The tendency to trace such thoughts and narratives to some other universe or reality strikes me as naive and out of touch with the reality of the
world we live in.
Civilization has largely been one big fantasy: the Human lost touch with the natural world - with animality - with its OWN animality - that it has
lost touch with the dynamic inter-woven nature of things: in created cities "in lines", it has deluded itself about the nature of reality.
“Only with the development of farming did we have to discipline ourselves to think linearly: following a plan from one point to another across
weeks or months. Before long we were ploughing in straight lines, making hedges and ditches and tracks in straight lines, building houses and then
towns in straight lines. Now almost every aspect of our lives is lived within grids, either concrete or abstract. Linearity, control, and management
dominate our lives. We fetishize progress: a continuous movement in the same direction. We impose our lines on the messy, contradictory, and
meandering realities of the Human world, because otherwise we would be completely lost in it. We make compartments simple enough, amid the labyrinths
we’ve created, to navigate and understanding.” – George Monbiot, How Did We Get Into This Mess?, pg. 92, Verso, 2016