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Trump to Fox News: I may defund California as 'a weapon' to fight illegal immigration

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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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California gives back more than they take in.



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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: reldra

Where were you when Obama threatened to cut federal funding to schools if they did not comply with his order to allow men into bathrooms/showers for girls?

Why can't Trump follow Obama's precedent?


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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:40 PM
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By the way, for those blaming Trump as if he dreamed this up all on his own...

Feds moving to strip money from U.S. sanctuary cities

That is from last July.


ICE has been pushing for years for the Justice Department to move against sanctuary cities, but made no headway under former Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.


Congress tried to move against sanctuary cities, including defunding, but Democrats blocked it.
Now that Republicans have control of Congress and the Presidency, and have removed the DOJ that worked for Obama, they will finally be able to get this done.


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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
Anyone know under what authority the president can "defund" a State?


The same authority Obama had to defund schools?





Obama Threatens to Defund North Carolina Schools Over Trans Bathrooms

In a letter to Gov. Pat McCrory, DOJ contends that they and North Carolina would be in violation of federal civil rights law if the bill passes.
According to the Justice Department, the state law violates federal law under Title VII of the U.S. Civil Rights Act, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex. The Obama administration says that with the passage of House Bill 2, “the state is engaged in a pattern or practice of resistance to the full enjoyment of Title VII right by employees of public agencies.”

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If the DOJ’s determination is upheld, North Carolina could lose federal education funding. During the current school year, state public schools received $861 million in federal funding. The University of North Carolina got $1.4 billion in 2014-15.

pjmedia.com...



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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Try as I might I can't seem to find any evidence to back up your claim. Maybe you could give it a shot. Your point is moot though, a sad little deflection. The point still remains that Trump stands to collect $406+ billion dollars from California this year. Maybe they should hold back on those payments until they get what they want. Leverage. I think you can read about that particular subject on pages 73 -82 of The Art of the Deal.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:47 PM
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Cal*IF*ornia gave Hillary 8,753,788 votes.

LOL




posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: Syphon
Perhaps California will decide to hold on to the $406 billion dollars in federal tax revenue it generates every year.


The State officials who are responsible will end up in Federal prison.

Go for it.




posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
California gives back more than they take in.



Right!

California is the bastion of fiscal responsibility!

As if.



SACRAMENTO — California has come a long way to dig itself out of budget deficits, but the state remains on shaky ground due to nearly $400 billion in unfunded liabilities and debt from public pensions, retiree health care and bonds, financial analysts say.


www.sfchronicle.com...



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Cal*IF*ornia gave Hillary 8,753,788 votes.

LOL



That is exactly why California is freaking out about losing their illegal immigrants.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee

Sanctuary cities is such a benign sounding term, it might have been a sanctuary for the illegal alien, but it sure as hell wasn't a sanctuary for a young woman walking with her father. CUT THE FUNDING.


The 32-year-old Steinle was walking with her father on San Francisco’s Pier 14 last July 1 when she was shot and killed by an illegal alien, Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, who had already been convicted of seven felonies and deported five times to Mexico.

www.breitbart.com...


I thought you people were pro state's rights. You are, up until the point the state doesn't want to do what the Emperor wants to do.

States rights to set immigration policy?
yeah, cause that will work out well....


Didn't work out so well for AZ when they tried to enforce their own border.

The last emperor said NO they can't.


What exactly was said NO to?

AZ is almost completely fenced.

So, exactly what was not enforced.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: Syphon
a reply to: neo96

Try as I might I can't seem to find any evidence to back up your claim. Maybe you could give it a shot. Your point is moot though, a sad little deflection. The point still remains that Trump stands to collect $406+ billion dollars from California this year. Maybe they should hold back on those payments until they get what they want. Leverage. I think you can read about that particular subject on pages 73 -82 of The Art of the Deal.




NM.
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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: Annee



Add Arizona to the list of states suing over President Barack Obama's executive action on illegal immigration.



Gov. Jan Brewer late Thursday announced Arizona is joining the lawsuit, filed Wednesday in federal court in the border town of Brownsville, Texas. Arizona joins Texas as the second border state to challenge the president's action. California and New Mexico are not party to the suit.



www.azcentral.com...

I wonder if it's just selective amnesia or just outright ignoring inconvenient truths.


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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee

Sanctuary cities is such a benign sounding term, it might have been a sanctuary for the illegal alien, but it sure as hell wasn't a sanctuary for a young woman walking with her father. CUT THE FUNDING.


The 32-year-old Steinle was walking with her father on San Francisco’s Pier 14 last July 1 when she was shot and killed by an illegal alien, Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, who had already been convicted of seven felonies and deported five times to Mexico.

www.breitbart.com...


I thought you people were pro state's rights. You are, up until the point the state doesn't want to do what the Emperor wants to do.

States rights to set immigration policy?
yeah, cause that will work out well....


Didn't work out so well for AZ when they tried to enforce their own border.

The last emperor said NO they can't.


What exactly was said NO to?

AZ is almost completely fenced.

So, exactly what was not enforced.


A fence alone does nothing to keep people out.
Officers on the ground with authority to deal with the people trying to get in is needed, and Trump is putting them in there.

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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Annee



Add Arizona to the list of states suing over President Barack Obama's executive action on illegal immigration.



Gov. Jan Brewer late Thursday announced Arizona is joining the lawsuit, filed Wednesday in federal court in the border town of Brownsville, Texas. Arizona joins Texas as the second border state to challenge the president's action. California and New Mexico are not party to the suit.



www.azcentral.com...

I wonder if it's just selective amnesia or just outright ignoring inconvenient truths.



Brewers an idiot.

She should never have been elected.

Jan Brewer has no thoughts of her own. She does what some higher up Republican tells her to do.

Might as well put her on an obedience leash.

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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 08:01 PM
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And thank you for another red herring.

So much for STATE RIGHTS.

Apparently California is the only state that is allowed that, AND only when it agrees with 'globalist progressive' views.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 08:01 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Profusion

Surprise

Another "ham-handed, trigger-finger" action - - - from a the slum lord who turns off electric and heat to get tenants to leave.



A lot of landlords do that, they can't do it in winter though if the people have kids. You would be surprised how many bad tenants there are that give false info on tenant applications then don't pay rent even though the government gives them money to pay the rent.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance




The same authority Obama had to defund schools?

Not sure it's equivalent.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: reldra

Where were you when Obama threatened to cut federal funding to schools if they did not comply with his order to allow men into bathrooms/showers for girls?

Why can't Trump follow Obama's precedent?


This is what reldra said about that



originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: tkwasny
There is no legal avenue for the teeth of enforcement. Funding to schools is current law passed by congress and signed by the president. That cannot be unwound without an act of congress.

Regardless, the president does not have the equivalent of a line item veto nor can trigger points be instituted in a budget. The money is either issued and is distributed or it is withheld and not in the budget.


There is a legal avenue. The state or states that do not follow this can be sued and could lose their funding under Title IX guidelines. I am pretty sure mosts states are going to comply.




posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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Take a look what Cal-IF-ornia gets and from where.


Federal Spending in California

Big graph in the article.




Retirement Benefits. Just under one third, or $102 billion, was devoted to retirement benefits, including Social Security payments and veterans benefits.

Nonretirement Benefits. Less than one third, or $99 billion, was spent on nonretirement benefits, like Medicare, food assistance, and unemployment insurance.

Grants. About one fifth, or $67 billion, was devoted to grants, which includes those for Medicaid and other health care programs, transportation, education, and housing. (To capture federal funding for grants to states, Pew used USAspending.gov—a site devoted to federal spending transparency. The site has well-known problems with data quality, and some of these issues may have affected Pew’s results.)

Contracts. About one seventh, or $48 billion, included money for contracts for the purchases of goods and services, like military and medical equipment.

Salaries and Wages. Finally, less than one tenth, or $29 billion, was spent on salaries and wages for federal employees, including military personnel. (Pew measured salaries and wages using sources that report salaries and wages by place of employment, rather than residency, which could distort this measure.)






posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
California gives back more than they take in.



The USA gives CA something, and they give it back to the USA, plus some?




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