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posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee


Yes, I am a globalist. And very opposed to isolationism.


Trump is not opposed to trade.
He's against trade deals that do not favour America.
Trump favours bilateral deals, not multination deals.
btw NAFTA and the TPP were much more than just 'free trade' deals.



And every other country is not in favor of deals that do not favor their country.




posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 01:16 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Annee

So Trump has changed his policy based on a handful of irritants causing a pointless disturbance in a country thousands of miles away?

No? Thought not.


A judge blocked it.


Irrelevant non sequitur.


Irrelevant?

Stopped dead in his tracks - - is not irrelevant.

Protests work whether you want to accept it or not. Even those in other countries.


If that judged allowed protests to affect how he interpreted in this decision then he should be disbarred immediately.

The rule of a judge isn't to make decisions they think will be popular, its to interpret the law.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 01:33 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Annee

So Trump has changed his policy based on a handful of irritants causing a pointless disturbance in a country thousands of miles away?

No? Thought not.


A judge blocked it.


Irrelevant non sequitur.


Irrelevant?

Stopped dead in his tracks - - is not irrelevant.

Protests work whether you want to accept it or not. Even those in other countries.


If that judged allowed protests to affect how he interpreted in this decision then he should be disbarred immediately.

The rule of a judge isn't to make decisions they think will be popular, its to interpret the law.


Are you a lawyer or a judge? Is your expertise in law?

Mine isn't. But, I am smart enough to know the judges decision will be challenged. And then what happens. Lawyers will argue from opposite sides.

Why is that? If law was black and white - - there would be no need for lawyers.

Protests do work. The will of the people is a powerful force. Decisions can lean within the law.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 01:42 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: Annee

So Trump has changed his policy based on a handful of irritants causing a pointless disturbance in a country thousands of miles away?

No? Thought not.


A judge blocked it.


Irrelevant non sequitur.


Irrelevant?

Stopped dead in his tracks - - is not irrelevant.

Protests work whether you want to accept it or not. Even those in other countries.


If that judged allowed protests to affect how he interpreted in this decision then he should be disbarred immediately.

The rule of a judge isn't to make decisions they think will be popular, its to interpret the law.


Are you a lawyer or a judge? Is your expertise in law?

Mine isn't. But, I am smart enough to know the judges decision will be challenged. And then what happens. Lawyers will argue from opposite sides.

Why is that? If law was black and white - - there would be no need for lawyers.

Protests do work. The will of the people is a powerful force. Decisions can lean within the law.


Protests can affect change, absolutely. They can convince law makers to change laws, can effect elections, can change company policies, etc.

However, judges take an oath to uphold the constitution. They interpret laws, and see if they are within the realm of the constitution.

They can not change there opinion of rather or not a law is constitutional based on public opinion or protests.

If you are arguing that this judge was convinced Trumps order was unlawful based on protests, then is is an inept judge that should be disbarred,



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 01:44 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Byrd

I hope mass protests continue until he is gone.

No matter the subject of the protest.

Because I expect there will be new issues coming.


Sorry Annee, we had to wait 8 years, so I guess you can wait 4...



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 01:47 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee


Yes, I am a globalist. And very opposed to isolationism.


Trump is not opposed to trade.
He's against trade deals that do not favour America.
Trump favours bilateral deals, not multination deals.
btw NAFTA and the TPP were much more than just 'free trade' deals.



And every other country is not in favor of deals that do not favor their country.


Thank god you are not in charge of negotiating trade deals for America.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:25 AM
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originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee


Yes, I am a globalist. And very opposed to isolationism.


Trump is not opposed to trade.
He's against trade deals that do not favour America.
Trump favours bilateral deals, not multination deals.
btw NAFTA and the TPP were much more than just 'free trade' deals.



And every other country is not in favor of deals that do not favor their country.


Thank god you are not in charge of negotiating trade deals for America.


Thank god you are not in charge of negotiating multiple country trade deals.

I know its shocking. But, there are many countries.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:27 AM
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a reply to: Annee

Indeed there are. I doubt their trade concerns are the same as those of America.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:27 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Byrd

I hope mass protests continue until he is gone.

No matter the subject of the protest.

Because I expect there will be new issues coming.


Sorry Annee, we had to wait 8 years, so I guess you can wait 4...


Depends.

A lot can happen in 4 years.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:31 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee


Yes, I am a globalist. And very opposed to isolationism.


Trump is not opposed to trade.
He's against trade deals that do not favour America.
Trump favours bilateral deals, not multination deals.
btw NAFTA and the TPP were much more than just 'free trade' deals.



And every other country is not in favor of deals that do not favor their country.


Thank god you are not in charge of negotiating trade deals for America.



I know its shocking. But, there are many countries.

Why are you pointing this out to me, is it a recent discovery for you?

I trust this administration to get the trade deals right, putting America first.

Donate your dollars to UNICEF if you feel you need to give Americas wealth away.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:32 AM
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originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee


Yes, I am a globalist. And very opposed to isolationism.


Trump is not opposed to trade.
He's against trade deals that do not favour America.
Trump favours bilateral deals, not multination deals.
btw NAFTA and the TPP were much more than just 'free trade' deals.



And every other country is not in favor of deals that do not favor their country.


Thank god you are not in charge of negotiating trade deals for America.



I know its shocking. But, there are many countries.

Why are you pointing this out to me, is it a recent discovery for you?

I trust this administration to get the trade deals right, putting America first.

Donate your dollars to UNICEF if you feel you need to give Americas wealth away.


I am a Globalist.

I would put the best interest of the Global World first.


edit on 6-2-2017 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:35 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee


Yes, I am a globalist. And very opposed to isolationism.


Trump is not opposed to trade.
He's against trade deals that do not favour America.
Trump favours bilateral deals, not multination deals.
btw NAFTA and the TPP were much more than just 'free trade' deals.



And every other country is not in favor of deals that do not favor their country.


Thank god you are not in charge of negotiating trade deals for America.



I know its shocking. But, there are many countries.

Why are you pointing this out to me, is it a recent discovery for you?

I trust this administration to get the trade deals right, putting America first.

Donate your dollars to UNICEF if you feel you need to give Americas wealth away.


I am a Globalist.

I would put the best interest of the Global World first.


Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Who decides what is in the interest of the "Global World" (totally redundant name by the way)



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:37 AM
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originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee


Yes, I am a globalist. And very opposed to isolationism.


Trump is not opposed to trade.
He's against trade deals that do not favour America.
Trump favours bilateral deals, not multination deals.
btw NAFTA and the TPP were much more than just 'free trade' deals.



And every other country is not in favor of deals that do not favor their country.


Thank god you are not in charge of negotiating trade deals for America.



I know its shocking. But, there are many countries.

Why are you pointing this out to me, is it a recent discovery for you?

I trust this administration to get the trade deals right, putting America first.

Donate your dollars to UNICEF if you feel you need to give Americas wealth away.


I am a Globalist.

I would put the best interest of the Global World first.


Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Who decides what is in the interest of the "Global World" (totally redundant name by the way)


Have you seen Pale Blue Dot?

That put's our pettiness into real perspective.

www.youtube.com...

edit on 6-2-2017 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:37 AM
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originally posted by: Dr UAE

its not of your F business, look at you fools you have a PM who is not elected and you're whining about a constitutionally elected president in another country? WTF? somebody plz enlighten me


Last i checked, during the last General Election in the UK, "David Cameron" did not appear on my ballot paper. You know why? because i DO NOT live in his constituency.

The people of the UK vote for a "Party" not an individual. May, because of Cameron's resignation is now the head / spokesperson for that party, the "Party" that was democratically elected is still in charge, only with a different talking head.

BTW, the "Party" elected her to be the replacement for Cameron




posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:40 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Annee


Yes, I am a globalist. And very opposed to isolationism.


Trump is not opposed to trade.
He's against trade deals that do not favour America.
Trump favours bilateral deals, not multination deals.
btw NAFTA and the TPP were much more than just 'free trade' deals.



And every other country is not in favor of deals that do not favor their country.


Thank god you are not in charge of negotiating trade deals for America.



I know its shocking. But, there are many countries.

Why are you pointing this out to me, is it a recent discovery for you?

I trust this administration to get the trade deals right, putting America first.

Donate your dollars to UNICEF if you feel you need to give Americas wealth away.


I am a Globalist.

I would put the best interest of the Global World first.


Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Who decides what is in the interest of the "Global World" (totally redundant name by the way)


Have you seen Pale Blue Dot?

That put's our pettiness into real perspective.

www.youtube.com...


Who decides what is in the interest of the world?

Answer my question please. Stop responding with non-sequiturs.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 03:20 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: rollanotherone
a reply to: chopperswolf

*putting on my liberal logic hat

But. But. White male christians in our own country do it all the time.

*taking off liberal logic hat and burning it.


Who do you think is bombing these countries?



The people Trump beat in the election.

The people YOU want in power.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: Dr UAE
prevent water and food from reaching them and lets see how long can they survive

its not of your F business, look at you fools you have a PM who is not elected and you're whining about a constitutionally elected president in another country? WTF? somebody plz enlighten me


I know there are a lot of people who seem to think they know better, but the UK never elects its prime minister - never has. It elects a political party, that party chooses its leader, that leader is the PM.

Does that make you feel even a little bit enlightened?

For all those whining about people exercising their democratic right to protest, then I can only guess you think groups such as Amnesty International should also stop protesting about injustices anywhere in the world?



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: Byrd


What the Brits are up in arms about is the upcoming (proposed) visit of Trump to England. Specifically, they don't want it to be a State Visit (where he'll meet with the queen.) Many want the invitation withdrawn.

How do we have any idea if this is true?
I talk to people from the UK, they like Trump.
A majority voted for Brexit.
More media tricks, don't be a sheep.


So you're basing it on a sample of people you know rather than reading the news? If we went by the sample of Brits that I know, we'd have to say Trump is universally despised.

That's why I read the news... they check both sides. And there's plenty of documentation about the marches against Trump and I certainly had a look at the petition (and where the signers were from) for Parliament to consider uninviting Trump.

He's not well-liked. And the Scots had some pretty entertaining (and very negative) things to say about him.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: D8Tee
I trust this administration to get the trade deals right, putting America first.


The days are long gone of an ignorant population signing away a tract of land they didn't own for a handful of beads and some iron hatchets. No country will sign off on a deal if they feel it's all positive for America and negative for them.

Now... an extremely wealthy businessman can leverage his wealth to get companies to agree to cut prices and do other things that are not to their advantage in order to get his dollars. But countries aren't companies and America has competitors. They can always go somewhere else.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
I am a Globalist.


Do you believe everyone shares the same mindset, culture, beliefs, virtues and life experiences as you do?

If they do not, how can Globalism be a realistic goal?


I would put the best interest of the Global World first.


This statement contradicts about 99% of your post history. (You know, putting the interests of the many over those of the minorities.)

Or are the interests of the minority only important when they agree with you?



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